I guess you just don't understand the transforming power Jesus had over those who followed Him, what repentance actually meant.

I know the tax collectors worked for Rome and their what were their methods. But, Roman tax collectors themselves did not go around killing those who couldn't meet the demands, they didn't even have the power to arrest or detain.

Moreover, you have failed to mention that of all the people in Jerusalem at that time, the followers of Jesus, starting with Jesus Himself, were the "focus" of a most vile hatred by the Romans and Jewish priesthood. The persecutions began almost immediately after Jesus' crucifixion.

WTF are you babbling about?

You asked some questions:

"Did Jesus commit immorality by dining with the scum of the earth in that society the tax-collector, Matthew? By this act by Jesus of breaking bread with a sinner, the Pharisees accused him of condoning and encouraging such damaging and woefully despicable actions his office committed. Matthew was considered far worse than a Samaritan. How could Jesus do such a thing?"

Why don't you enlighten us and tell us how Jesus could do such a thing?

Heterosexuality is the virtuous thing, and marriage of one man and one woman is God's design. Marriage of two or more people of the same sex is against God's law and therefore not virtuous. If you believe that the bible's injunction against same sex behavior is wrong and that same sex behavior is virtuous then you can consider "marriage" between two or more people of the same sex is virtuous. Since that is against the bible and God's law, exactly what definition of virtue you might have to invent is another story.

Apparently virtue is in the eye of the beholder. I doubt that homosexuals consider themselves to be not virtuous, while knowing that Christians do. Would it be so wrong or inappropriate for homosexuals to consider themselves Christian and practice that faith ?
I don't know of any, but I can see that as a probable reality, and they just don't agree with, and go against that particular part of the bible,
while being completely aware of the contradiction.

However, I have met and do know many Christians, that go to church and profess their Christianity, while themselves contradicting the bible in the way they live and the things they do. Ever known a Christian to cheat on their spouse ? And then go to church, get forgiven for it, then go do it again.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. I see too much hypocrisy too often.
Virtue IS in the eye of the beholder, usually by the self proclaimed righteous.

I think bashing the gays is wrong. It's hypocrisy too often.
I also think gays behaving radical in some of their claims of discrimination are also hypocritical.
Example: gay pair pressing charges against christian baker for expressing and practicing her beliefs without harming them.
No damage done, that gay pair should have been respectful and then simply found another baker to take their money.
Their hypocritical behavior really pissed me off.

Christians and gays have equal rights, did God not make them both ? The self proclaimed righteous might claim otherwise.

I am not gay, I am not liberal thinking in a political sense, and Homosexuality ain't for me. Not Christian either. Not Atheist.

A question might be, do you truly believe in individual rights.

To: no propaganda please, I mean no offense here to anyone, and found your statement to be unoffensive and interesting enough to make me think about it and express my own thoughts. (the point of OPP).

Jesus did none of those things. If we, as Christians, are to do the same as He did, then our mission is to call the sinner to repent his or her sin, to accept Lord Jesus as their Savior--embrace the sinner, condemn the sin. This is the ultimate expression of love, not baking frigging cakes and singing and dancing at a gay wedding.

Any Christian pastor or Catholic priest who performs a gay marriage is essentially sanctifying sin and giving God's blessing to a sinful relationship. This defies Jesus' admonition to "go, and sin no more." And, this applies not just to homosexuality, but to all sins save one.

faitlux doesn't understand that the true meaning of love is to help the sinner recognize his sin for what it is, and lovingly help him to repent of his sin, seek God's strength and His love to give the sinner the power to resist the temptation to sin again. True love never says "by all means keep doing the sinful act and we will keep celebrating the act with you. that would be like having a friend who was a drug uses and, rather than helping him find medical and spiritual help to overcome his addiction, you went out and bought the drugs, and needles for him. and helped him commit slow suicide by doing the drugs. There is nothing about doing that, or validating and celebrating any other sin that is in any way loving.

Crushing Christianity: The Left’s Ultimate Goal

Bob Ellis
on 29 May, 2015 at 08:00


More presidential candidates are starting to talk about the Left’s war against Christianity, and how the homosexual agenda threatens liberty in America.

From CNS News:

Conservative Senator Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) said that in America today if you do not support homosexual marriage, “you are labeled a homophobe and a hater,” and that the next step in that strategy is “to argue that the teachings of mainstream Christianity” constitute “hate speech.”

“We are at the water’s edge of the argument that mainstream Christian teaching is hate speech,” said Senator Rubio in a May 26 interview with CBN News.

“Because today we’ve reached the point in our society where if you do not support same-sex marriage you are labeled a homophobe and a hater,” he said, adding, “so what’s the next step after that?”

“After they are done going after individuals, the next step is to argue that the teachings of mainstream Christianity, the catechism of the Catholic Church, is hate speech and that’s a real and present danger,” said Rubio.

I’m not a big fan of Marco Rubio after he tried to shove amnesty for invaders down the throats of Republicans and his “gang” called people who believe in the rule of law “racists.” But credit should be given where it’s due, and he got this one absolutely right.

Of course, he isn’t the only Republican candidate who realizes there’s a big target on the back of Christianity in Leftist culture.

Texas Senator and presidential candidate Ted Cruz has already been talking about this.

Anyone who doesn’t have their head stuck in the sand can see what Progressives are about. Even the Left realizes it…they just aren’t brazen enough to admit it yet.

Censoring of biblical teaching has already happened in Canada, where Christian radio ministries can’t tell the truth about homosexual behavior without running afoul of Canadian speech repression, and where Christians have been arrested for speaking the truth about homosexual behavior.

The persecution and censor has already happened in our parent country of England, where it is illegal to tell the truth about homosexual behavior, and things have apparently gotten so bad that you can be arrested even without proof, just on the allegation of “homophobia” by a homosexual activist.

From the British Daily Mail:

A Christian street preacher revealed today how he was arrested and held in a cell for 11 hours after a lesbian falsely accused him of homophobia.

Rob Hughes, 38, was speaking in Basildon, Essex, when the woman said she was ‘gay and proud’ and he should ‘get down off your pedestal, you judgmental **** – homophobia is not in this town’.

However Mr Hughes – who had a voice recording of all he had said while preaching for 20 minutes that day – had not referenced homosexuality.

Mr Hughes said: ‘I was taken to the police station, processed, mugshot, fingerprints, DNA, the whole works. I was in a cell for about 11 hours, and then my solicitor finally arrived.

Don’t you just love the “tolerant” Left?

They’re so “tolerant,” they’ll have you arrested if you tell the truth about their immoral behavior. You don’t have to have them arrested for their “tolerance” to kick in. You don’t have to assault them for their “tolerance” to kick in. You don’t have to deny them their God-given rights for their “tolerance” to kick in.

All you have to do is tell the truth about their dangerous and immoral behavior, and they’ll have you arrested on their word alone–they don’t even need to present any proof to have you hauled off.

Of course, you know the Left will obfuscate and attempt to deceive by stating “Oh, but that’s in other countries.” Uh huh.

And how many thousands of times have we heard from the Left: “We need to be like other socialists countries!”?

And in how many ways have we been marching in the direction of other repressive countries with government takeovers of the health care industry, the auto industry, the finance industry? With attacks on religious freedom to enforce the Leftist agenda? With the trampling of private property rights to push the homosexual agenda?

Leftist tyranny is here, and it’s only a matter of time (maybe not that long) until what Rubio warned about arrives.

When most Democrats support criminalizing “hate speech,” and 37% of “Republicans” (i.e. liberals in Republican clothing) also support criminalizing telling the truth about homosexual behavior, it may not be long at all (unless good people stand up and start being as vocal as the minority Left).

Constitutions and amendments to protect freedom are of no use whatsoever if a people are too stupid and/or too corrupt to ensure their own nation’s highest law is enforced.

As President and signer of the Declaration of Independence John Adams said:

We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net.

Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

Or put more simply by Benjamin Franklin:

Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom.

Hint: We can’t embrace immorality (much less force immorality on people) and remain a virtuous people.

Apparently virtue is in the eye of the beholder. I doubt that homosexuals consider themselves to be not virtuous, while knowing that Christians do. Would it be so wrong or inappropriate for homosexuals to consider themselves Christian and practice that faith ?
I don't know of any, but I can see that as a probable reality, and they just don't agree with, and go against that particular part of the bible,
while being completely aware of the contradiction.

However, I have met and do know many Christians, that go to church and profess their Christianity, while themselves contradicting the bible in the way they live and the things they do. Ever known a Christian to cheat on their spouse ? And then go to church, get forgiven for it, then go do it again.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. I see too much hypocrisy too often.
Virtue IS in the eye of the beholder, usually by the self proclaimed righteous.

I think bashing the gays is wrong. It's hypocrisy too often.
I also think gays behaving radical in some of their claims of discrimination are also hypocritical.
Example: gay pair pressing charges against christian baker for expressing and practicing her beliefs without harming them.
No damage done, that gay pair should have been respectful and then simply found another baker to take their money.
Their hypocritical behavior really pissed me off.

Christians and gays have equal rights, did God not make them both ? The self proclaimed righteous might claim otherwise.

I am not gay, I am not liberal thinking in a political sense, and Homosexuality ain't for me. Not Christian either. Not Atheist.

A question might be, do you truly believe in individual rights.

To: no propaganda please, I mean no offense here to anyone, and found your statement to be unoffensive and interesting enough to make me think about it and express my own thoughts. (the point of OPP).