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May 30, 2015 11:33:55   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Crushing Christianity: The Left’s Ultimate Goal

Bob Ellis
on 29 May, 2015 at 08:00


More presidential candidates are starting to talk about the Left’s war against Christianity, and how the homosexual agenda threatens liberty in America.

From CNS News:

Conservative Senator Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) said that in America today if you do not support homosexual marriage, “you are labeled a homophobe and a hater,” and that the next step in that strategy is “to argue that the teachings of mainstream Christianity” constitute “hate speech.”

“We are at the water’s edge of the argument that mainstream Christian teaching is hate speech,” said Senator Rubio in a May 26 interview with CBN News.

“Because today we’ve reached the point in our society where if you do not support same-sex marriage you are labeled a homophobe and a hater,” he said, adding, “so what’s the next step after that?”

“After they are done going after individuals, the next step is to argue that the teachings of mainstream Christianity, the catechism of the Catholic Church, is hate speech and that’s a real and present danger,” said Rubio.

I’m not a big fan of Marco Rubio after he tried to shove amnesty for invaders down the throats of Republicans and his “gang” called people who believe in the rule of law “racists.” But credit should be given where it’s due, and he got this one absolutely right.

Of course, he isn’t the only Republican candidate who realizes there’s a big target on the back of Christianity in Leftist culture.

Texas Senator and presidential candidate Ted Cruz has already been talking about this.

Anyone who doesn’t have their head stuck in the sand can see what Progressives are about. Even the Left realizes it…they just aren’t brazen enough to admit it yet.

Censoring of biblical teaching has already happened in Canada, where Christian radio ministries can’t tell the truth about homosexual behavior without running afoul of Canadian speech repression, and where Christians have been arrested for speaking the truth about homosexual behavior.

The persecution and censor has already happened in our parent country of England, where it is illegal to tell the truth about homosexual behavior, and things have apparently gotten so bad that you can be arrested even without proof, just on the allegation of “homophobia” by a homosexual activist.

From the British Daily Mail:

A Christian street preacher revealed today how he was arrested and held in a cell for 11 hours after a lesbian falsely accused him of homophobia.

Rob Hughes, 38, was speaking in Basildon, Essex, when the woman said she was ‘gay and proud’ and he should ‘get down off your pedestal, you judgmental **** – homophobia is not in this town’.

However Mr Hughes – who had a voice recording of all he had said while preaching for 20 minutes that day – had not referenced homosexuality.

Mr Hughes said: ‘I was taken to the police station, processed, mugshot, fingerprints, DNA, the whole works. I was in a cell for about 11 hours, and then my solicitor finally arrived.

Don’t you just love the “tolerant” Left?

They’re so “tolerant,” they’ll have you arrested if you tell the truth about their immoral behavior. You don’t have to have them arrested for their “tolerance” to kick in. You don’t have to assault them for their “tolerance” to kick in. You don’t have to deny them their God-given rights for their “tolerance” to kick in.

All you have to do is tell the truth about their dangerous and immoral behavior, and they’ll have you arrested on their word alone–they don’t even need to present any proof to have you hauled off.

Of course, you know the Left will obfuscate and attempt to deceive by stating “Oh, but that’s in other countries.” Uh huh.

And how many thousands of times have we heard from the Left: “We need to be like other socialists countries!”?

And in how many ways have we been marching in the direction of other repressive countries with government takeovers of the health care industry, the auto industry, the finance industry? With attacks on religious freedom to enforce the Leftist agenda? With the trampling of private property rights to push the homosexual agenda?

Leftist tyranny is here, and it’s only a matter of time (maybe not that long) until what Rubio warned about arrives.

When most Democrats support criminalizing “hate speech,” and 37% of “Republicans” (i.e. liberals in Republican clothing) also support criminalizing telling the truth about homosexual behavior, it may not be long at all (unless good people stand up and start being as vocal as the minority Left).

Constitutions and amendments to protect freedom are of no use whatsoever if a people are too stupid and/or too corrupt to ensure their own nation’s highest law is enforced.

As President and signer of the Declaration of Independence John Adams said:

We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net.

Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

Or put more simply by Benjamin Franklin:

Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom.

Hint: We can’t embrace immorality (much less force immorality on people) and remain a virtuous people.

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May 30, 2015 13:25:56   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Crushing Christianity: The Left’s Ultimate Goal

Bob Ellis
on 29 May, 2015 at 08:00


Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

Or put more simply by Benjamin Franklin:

Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom.

Hint: We can’t embrace immorality (much less force immorality on people) and remain a virtuous people.


...so homosexuals want to do the appropriate "thing" and get married, so is getting married as unvirtuous for heterosexuals?

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May 30, 2015 13:38:23   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
...so homosexuals want to do the appropriate "thing" and get married, so is getting married as unvirtuous for heterosexuals?


Heterosexuality is the virtuous thing, and marriage of one man and one woman is God's design. Marriage of two or more people of the same sex is against God's law and therefore not virtuous. If you believe that the bible's injunction against same sex behavior is wrong and that same sex behavior is virtuous then you can consider "marriage" between two or more people of the same sex is virtuous. Since that is against the bible and God's law, exactly what definition of virtue you might have to invent is another story.

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May 30, 2015 14:35:37   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Heterosexuality is the virtuous thing, and marriage of one man and one woman is God's design. Marriage of two or more people of the same sex is against God's law and therefore not virtuous. If you believe that the bible's injunction against same sex behavior is wrong and that same sex behavior is virtuous then you can consider "marriage" between two or more people of the same sex is virtuous. Since that is against the bible and God's law, exactly what definition of virtue you might have to invent is another story.
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Getting married (in the present day, in a secular country...as we are..) is virtuous.

How many homosexuals, bisexuals do you know that want to marry "groups". This is a legal right (or should be) regardless of what the bible tells you to do.

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May 30, 2015 18:08:34   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
Getting married (in the present day, in a secular country...as we are..) is virtuous.

How many homosexuals, bisexuals do you know that want to marry "groups". This is a legal right (or should be) regardless of what the bible tells you to do.

The constitution doesn't mention marriage so it is not a constitutional right.

There have been a couple of threesome lesbian marriages in Canada where it is legal. what right do you have to limit the number of people involved if it is a civil right? what right do you have to say that there are age limitations, or that relatives cannot participate in it if it is a legal right under the Constitution. I should be able to ma

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May 31, 2015 00:28:10   #
fiatlux
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Crushing Christianity: The Left’s Ultimate Goal

Bob Ellis
on 29 May, 2015 at 08:00


More presidential candidates are starting to talk about the Left’s war against Christianity, and how the homosexual agenda threatens liberty in America.

From CNS News:

Conservative Senator Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) said that in America today if you do not support homosexual marriage, “you are labeled a homophobe and a hater,” and that the next step in that strategy is “to argue that the teachings of mainstream Christianity” constitute “hate speech.”

“We are at the water’s edge of the argument that mainstream Christian teaching is hate speech,” said Senator Rubio in a May 26 interview with CBN News.

“Because today we’ve reached the point in our society where if you do not support same-sex marriage you are labeled a homophobe and a hater,” he said, adding, “so what’s the next step after that?”

“After they are done going after individuals, the next step is to argue that the teachings of mainstream Christianity, the catechism of the Catholic Church, is hate speech and that’s a real and present danger,” said Rubio.

I’m not a big fan of Marco Rubio after he tried to shove amnesty for invaders down the throats of Republicans and his “gang” called people who believe in the rule of law “racists.” But credit should be given where it’s due, and he got this one absolutely right.

Of course, he isn’t the only Republican candidate who realizes there’s a big target on the back of Christianity in Leftist culture.

Texas Senator and presidential candidate Ted Cruz has already been talking about this.

Anyone who doesn’t have their head stuck in the sand can see what Progressives are about. Even the Left realizes it…they just aren’t brazen enough to admit it yet.

Censoring of biblical teaching has already happened in Canada, where Christian radio ministries can’t tell the truth about homosexual behavior without running afoul of Canadian speech repression, and where Christians have been arrested for speaking the truth about homosexual behavior.

The persecution and censor has already happened in our parent country of England, where it is illegal to tell the truth about homosexual behavior, and things have apparently gotten so bad that you can be arrested even without proof, just on the allegation of “homophobia” by a homosexual activist.

From the British Daily Mail:

A Christian street preacher revealed today how he was arrested and held in a cell for 11 hours after a lesbian falsely accused him of homophobia.

Rob Hughes, 38, was speaking in Basildon, Essex, when the woman said she was ‘gay and proud’ and he should ‘get down off your pedestal, you judgmental **** – homophobia is not in this town’.

However Mr Hughes – who had a voice recording of all he had said while preaching for 20 minutes that day – had not referenced homosexuality.

Mr Hughes said: ‘I was taken to the police station, processed, mugshot, fingerprints, DNA, the whole works. I was in a cell for about 11 hours, and then my solicitor finally arrived.

Don’t you just love the “tolerant” Left?

They’re so “tolerant,” they’ll have you arrested if you tell the truth about their immoral behavior. You don’t have to have them arrested for their “tolerance” to kick in. You don’t have to assault them for their “tolerance” to kick in. You don’t have to deny them their God-given rights for their “tolerance” to kick in.

All you have to do is tell the truth about their dangerous and immoral behavior, and they’ll have you arrested on their word alone–they don’t even need to present any proof to have you hauled off.

Of course, you know the Left will obfuscate and attempt to deceive by stating “Oh, but that’s in other countries.” Uh huh.

And how many thousands of times have we heard from the Left: “We need to be like other socialists countries!”?

And in how many ways have we been marching in the direction of other repressive countries with government takeovers of the health care industry, the auto industry, the finance industry? With attacks on religious freedom to enforce the Leftist agenda? With the trampling of private property rights to push the homosexual agenda?

Leftist tyranny is here, and it’s only a matter of time (maybe not that long) until what Rubio warned about arrives.

When most Democrats support criminalizing “hate speech,” and 37% of “Republicans” (i.e. liberals in Republican clothing) also support criminalizing telling the truth about homosexual behavior, it may not be long at all (unless good people stand up and start being as vocal as the minority Left).

Constitutions and amendments to protect freedom are of no use whatsoever if a people are too stupid and/or too corrupt to ensure their own nation’s highest law is enforced.

As President and signer of the Declaration of Independence John Adams said:

We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net.

Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

Or put more simply by Benjamin Franklin:

Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom.

Hint: We can’t embrace immorality (much less force immorality on people) and remain a virtuous people.
Crushing Christianity: The Left’s Ultimate Goal br... (show quote)


I almost quipped that Christianity was destroying itself then realized it is not Christianity to blame for it is not being lived. Did Jesus commit immorality by dining with the scum of the earth in that society the tax-collector, Matthew? By this act by Jesus of breaking bread with a sinner, the Pharisees accused him of condoning and encouraging such damaging and woefully despicable actions his office committed. Matthew was considered far worse than a Samaritan. How could Jesus do such a thing?

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May 31, 2015 00:32:25   #
fiatlux
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Crushing Christianity: The Left’s Ultimate Goal

Bob Ellis
on 29 May, 2015 at 08:00


More presidential candidates are starting to talk about the Left’s war against Christianity, and how the homosexual agenda threatens liberty in America.

From CNS News:

Conservative Senator Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) said that in America today if you do not support homosexual marriage, “you are labeled a homophobe and a hater,” and that the next step in that strategy is “to argue that the teachings of mainstream Christianity” constitute “hate speech.”

“We are at the water’s edge of the argument that mainstream Christian teaching is hate speech,” said Senator Rubio in a May 26 interview with CBN News.

“Because today we’ve reached the point in our society where if you do not support same-sex marriage you are labeled a homophobe and a hater,” he said, adding, “so what’s the next step after that?”

“After they are done going after individuals, the next step is to argue that the teachings of mainstream Christianity, the catechism of the Catholic Church, is hate speech and that’s a real and present danger,” said Rubio.

I’m not a big fan of Marco Rubio after he tried to shove amnesty for invaders down the throats of Republicans and his “gang” called people who believe in the rule of law “racists.” But credit should be given where it’s due, and he got this one absolutely right.

Of course, he isn’t the only Republican candidate who realizes there’s a big target on the back of Christianity in Leftist culture.

Texas Senator and presidential candidate Ted Cruz has already been talking about this.

Anyone who doesn’t have their head stuck in the sand can see what Progressives are about. Even the Left realizes it…they just aren’t brazen enough to admit it yet.

Censoring of biblical teaching has already happened in Canada, where Christian radio ministries can’t tell the truth about homosexual behavior without running afoul of Canadian speech repression, and where Christians have been arrested for speaking the truth about homosexual behavior.

The persecution and censor has already happened in our parent country of England, where it is illegal to tell the truth about homosexual behavior, and things have apparently gotten so bad that you can be arrested even without proof, just on the allegation of “homophobia” by a homosexual activist.

From the British Daily Mail:

A Christian street preacher revealed today how he was arrested and held in a cell for 11 hours after a lesbian falsely accused him of homophobia.

Rob Hughes, 38, was speaking in Basildon, Essex, when the woman said she was ‘gay and proud’ and he should ‘get down off your pedestal, you judgmental **** – homophobia is not in this town’.

However Mr Hughes – who had a voice recording of all he had said while preaching for 20 minutes that day – had not referenced homosexuality.

Mr Hughes said: ‘I was taken to the police station, processed, mugshot, fingerprints, DNA, the whole works. I was in a cell for about 11 hours, and then my solicitor finally arrived.

Don’t you just love the “tolerant” Left?

They’re so “tolerant,” they’ll have you arrested if you tell the truth about their immoral behavior. You don’t have to have them arrested for their “tolerance” to kick in. You don’t have to assault them for their “tolerance” to kick in. You don’t have to deny them their God-given rights for their “tolerance” to kick in.

All you have to do is tell the truth about their dangerous and immoral behavior, and they’ll have you arrested on their word alone–they don’t even need to present any proof to have you hauled off.

Of course, you know the Left will obfuscate and attempt to deceive by stating “Oh, but that’s in other countries.” Uh huh.

And how many thousands of times have we heard from the Left: “We need to be like other socialists countries!”?

And in how many ways have we been marching in the direction of other repressive countries with government takeovers of the health care industry, the auto industry, the finance industry? With attacks on religious freedom to enforce the Leftist agenda? With the trampling of private property rights to push the homosexual agenda?

Leftist tyranny is here, and it’s only a matter of time (maybe not that long) until what Rubio warned about arrives.

When most Democrats support criminalizing “hate speech,” and 37% of “Republicans” (i.e. liberals in Republican clothing) also support criminalizing telling the truth about homosexual behavior, it may not be long at all (unless good people stand up and start being as vocal as the minority Left).

Constitutions and amendments to protect freedom are of no use whatsoever if a people are too stupid and/or too corrupt to ensure their own nation’s highest law is enforced.

As President and signer of the Declaration of Independence John Adams said:

We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net.

Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

Or put more simply by Benjamin Franklin:

Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom.

Hint: We can’t embrace immorality (much less force immorality on people) and remain a virtuous people.
Crushing Christianity: The Left’s Ultimate Goal br... (show quote)


As I understand scripture, your complaint is empty. Take this quote, for instance: "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom." We, as Christians, everyone of us, are not virtuous.

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May 31, 2015 06:31:00   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
no propaganda please wrote:
The constitution doesn't mention marriage so it is not a constitutional right.

There have been a couple of threesome lesbian marriages in Canada where it is legal. what right do you have to limit the number of people involved if it is a civil right? what right do you have to say that there are age limitations, or that relatives cannot participate in it if it is a legal right under the Constitution. I should be able to ma


But pursuit of happiness is a right...as mentioned in the constitution.

Currently, our laws do not allow polygamy, that won't change.

I constantly come back to this: what does Canada have to do with anything? Our laws are for US citizens. Do you understand that? Do you understand that if a butterfly flaps it's wing in Tokyo that it doesn't cause laws in the US to change? What kind convoluted logic are you smokin'? "Ma" all you want.

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May 31, 2015 10:20:01   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
no propaganda please wrote:
The constitution doesn't mention marriage so it is not a constitutional right.

There have been a couple of threesome lesbian marriages in Canada where it is legal. what right do you have to limit the number of people involved if it is a civil right? what right do you have to say that there are age limitations, or that relatives cannot participate in it if it is a legal right under the Constitution. I should be able to ma


Computer died in the middle of the post so the comment was not finished. didn't realize that until now, when a sarcastic poster pointed it out to me.

the concept of rights as given by god to us and that government cannot take away is that they cannot Be limited because someone wants them to be. you have the right to liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Pursuit does not mean that anything that makes you happy should be included, or people could take things that are not theirs because they would be happier with them, you have the right to life but not at the expense of another's life. By your interpretation if pursuing happiness required that you marry your sister, that should be fine. apparently you do believe that the word marriage should be changed because you want it to be changed to include same sex, and multiple persons (that is a world wide concept so actually has more validity than same sex marriage) If you want to endorse same sex marriage but not brother sister marriage THEN YOU ARE A BIGOT, just with a different concept of what should be considered wrong. If you say that marrying ten year old children is wrong then you are a INTERGENERATIOAL SEX BIGOT Depends on how you look at it, doesn't it.

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May 31, 2015 12:21:35   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Computer died in the middle of the post so the comment was not finished. didn't realize that until now, when a sarcastic poster pointed it out to me.

the concept of rights as given by god to us and that government cannot take away is that they cannot Be limited because someone wants them to be. you have the right to liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Pursuit does not mean that anything that makes you happy should be included, or people could take things that are not theirs because they would be happier with them, you have the right to life but not at the expense of another's life. By your interpretation if pursuing happiness required that you marry your sister, that should be fine. apparently you do believe that the word marriage should be changed because you want it to be changed to include same sex, and multiple persons (that is a world wide concept so actually has more validity than same sex marriage) If you want to endorse same sex marriage but not brother sister marriage THEN YOU ARE A BIGOT, just with a different concept of what should be considered wrong. If you say that marrying ten year old children is wrong then you are a INTERGENERATIOAL SEX BIGOT Depends on how you look at it, doesn't it.
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....yea and then there is this pesky thing called the Maga Carta...maybe you ought to understand that our rights were bridged by the fact that we demanded them. God gave us no rights, if that were true, than the Kings and Popes that claimed they were appointed by God would still be in charge. But they are aren't are they?

You are a bigot against non-christians, otherwise you wouldn't keep claiming that the bible rules....you are morbidly detached from reality dude.

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May 31, 2015 20:33:02   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
....yea and then there is this pesky thing called the Maga Carta...maybe you ought to understand that our rights were bridged by the fact that we demanded them. God gave us no rights, if that were true, than the Kings and Popes that claimed they were appointed by God would still be in charge. But they are aren't are they?

You are a bigot against non-christians, otherwise you wouldn't keep claiming that the bible rules....you are morbidly detached from reality dude.
The Magna Carta was established in England two centuries before the founding of America. The principles of liberty in this document inspired our founding fathers, but they did not pattern our constitution after it. The Magna Carta was the first legal document to establish that leaders did not have arbitrary power, granted under Divine Authority, but instead were subject to the law of the land. In other words, the document limited the power and authority of kings. If you read the DoI, you will see that our founders recognized who the real authority is

If you intend to argue in favor of reality, then get real.

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May 31, 2015 20:39:32   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
fiatlux wrote:
As I understand scripture, your complaint is empty. Take this quote, for instance: "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom." We, as Christians, everyone of us, are not virtuous.
Speak for yourself. Apparently you do NOT understand scripture.

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May 31, 2015 22:10:18   #
fiatlux
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Crushing Christianity: The Left’s Ultimate Goal

Bob Ellis
on 29 May, 2015 at 08:00


More presidential candidates are starting to talk about the Left’s war against Christianity, and how the homosexual agenda threatens liberty in America.

From CNS News:

Conservative Senator Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) said that in America today if you do not support homosexual marriage, “you are labeled a homophobe and a hater,” and that the next step in that strategy is “to argue that the teachings of mainstream Christianity” constitute “hate speech.”

“We are at the water’s edge of the argument that mainstream Christian teaching is hate speech,” said Senator Rubio in a May 26 interview with CBN News.

“Because today we’ve reached the point in our society where if you do not support same-sex marriage you are labeled a homophobe and a hater,” he said, adding, “so what’s the next step after that?”

“After they are done going after individuals, the next step is to argue that the teachings of mainstream Christianity, the catechism of the Catholic Church, is hate speech and that’s a real and present danger,” said Rubio.

I’m not a big fan of Marco Rubio after he tried to shove amnesty for invaders down the throats of Republicans and his “gang” called people who believe in the rule of law “racists.” But credit should be given where it’s due, and he got this one absolutely right.

Of course, he isn’t the only Republican candidate who realizes there’s a big target on the back of Christianity in Leftist culture.

Texas Senator and presidential candidate Ted Cruz has already been talking about this.

Anyone who doesn’t have their head stuck in the sand can see what Progressives are about. Even the Left realizes it…they just aren’t brazen enough to admit it yet.

Censoring of biblical teaching has already happened in Canada, where Christian radio ministries can’t tell the truth about homosexual behavior without running afoul of Canadian speech repression, and where Christians have been arrested for speaking the truth about homosexual behavior.

The persecution and censor has already happened in our parent country of England, where it is illegal to tell the truth about homosexual behavior, and things have apparently gotten so bad that you can be arrested even without proof, just on the allegation of “homophobia” by a homosexual activist.

From the British Daily Mail:

A Christian street preacher revealed today how he was arrested and held in a cell for 11 hours after a lesbian falsely accused him of homophobia.

Rob Hughes, 38, was speaking in Basildon, Essex, when the woman said she was ‘gay and proud’ and he should ‘get down off your pedestal, you judgmental **** – homophobia is not in this town’.

However Mr Hughes – who had a voice recording of all he had said while preaching for 20 minutes that day – had not referenced homosexuality.

Mr Hughes said: ‘I was taken to the police station, processed, mugshot, fingerprints, DNA, the whole works. I was in a cell for about 11 hours, and then my solicitor finally arrived.

Don’t you just love the “tolerant” Left?

They’re so “tolerant,” they’ll have you arrested if you tell the truth about their immoral behavior. You don’t have to have them arrested for their “tolerance” to kick in. You don’t have to assault them for their “tolerance” to kick in. You don’t have to deny them their God-given rights for their “tolerance” to kick in.

All you have to do is tell the truth about their dangerous and immoral behavior, and they’ll have you arrested on their word alone–they don’t even need to present any proof to have you hauled off.

Of course, you know the Left will obfuscate and attempt to deceive by stating “Oh, but that’s in other countries.” Uh huh.

And how many thousands of times have we heard from the Left: “We need to be like other socialists countries!”?

And in how many ways have we been marching in the direction of other repressive countries with government takeovers of the health care industry, the auto industry, the finance industry? With attacks on religious freedom to enforce the Leftist agenda? With the trampling of private property rights to push the homosexual agenda?

Leftist tyranny is here, and it’s only a matter of time (maybe not that long) until what Rubio warned about arrives.

When most Democrats support criminalizing “hate speech,” and 37% of “Republicans” (i.e. liberals in Republican clothing) also support criminalizing telling the truth about homosexual behavior, it may not be long at all (unless good people stand up and start being as vocal as the minority Left).

Constitutions and amendments to protect freedom are of no use whatsoever if a people are too stupid and/or too corrupt to ensure their own nation’s highest law is enforced.

As President and signer of the Declaration of Independence John Adams said:

We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net.

Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

Or put more simply by Benjamin Franklin:

Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom.

Hint: We can’t embrace immorality (much less force immorality on people) and remain a virtuous people.
Crushing Christianity: The Left’s Ultimate Goal br... (show quote)


We do not embrace immorality by embracing sinners of every stripe (and there are other sinners than homosexuals).

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May 31, 2015 22:14:18   #
fiatlux
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Crushing Christianity: The Left’s Ultimate Goal

Bob Ellis
on 29 May, 2015 at 08:00


More presidential candidates are starting to talk about the Left’s war against Christianity, and how the homosexual agenda threatens liberty in America.

From CNS News:

Conservative Senator Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) said that in America today if you do not support homosexual marriage, “you are labeled a homophobe and a hater,” and that the next step in that strategy is “to argue that the teachings of mainstream Christianity” constitute “hate speech.”

“We are at the water’s edge of the argument that mainstream Christian teaching is hate speech,” said Senator Rubio in a May 26 interview with CBN News.

“Because today we’ve reached the point in our society where if you do not support same-sex marriage you are labeled a homophobe and a hater,” he said, adding, “so what’s the next step after that?”

“After they are done going after individuals, the next step is to argue that the teachings of mainstream Christianity, the catechism of the Catholic Church, is hate speech and that’s a real and present danger,” said Rubio.

I’m not a big fan of Marco Rubio after he tried to shove amnesty for invaders down the throats of Republicans and his “gang” called people who believe in the rule of law “racists.” But credit should be given where it’s due, and he got this one absolutely right.

Of course, he isn’t the only Republican candidate who realizes there’s a big target on the back of Christianity in Leftist culture.

Texas Senator and presidential candidate Ted Cruz has already been talking about this.

Anyone who doesn’t have their head stuck in the sand can see what Progressives are about. Even the Left realizes it…they just aren’t brazen enough to admit it yet.

Censoring of biblical teaching has already happened in Canada, where Christian radio ministries can’t tell the truth about homosexual behavior without running afoul of Canadian speech repression, and where Christians have been arrested for speaking the truth about homosexual behavior.

The persecution and censor has already happened in our parent country of England, where it is illegal to tell the truth about homosexual behavior, and things have apparently gotten so bad that you can be arrested even without proof, just on the allegation of “homophobia” by a homosexual activist.

From the British Daily Mail:

A Christian street preacher revealed today how he was arrested and held in a cell for 11 hours after a lesbian falsely accused him of homophobia.

Rob Hughes, 38, was speaking in Basildon, Essex, when the woman said she was ‘gay and proud’ and he should ‘get down off your pedestal, you judgmental **** – homophobia is not in this town’.

However Mr Hughes – who had a voice recording of all he had said while preaching for 20 minutes that day – had not referenced homosexuality.

Mr Hughes said: ‘I was taken to the police station, processed, mugshot, fingerprints, DNA, the whole works. I was in a cell for about 11 hours, and then my solicitor finally arrived.

Don’t you just love the “tolerant” Left?

They’re so “tolerant,” they’ll have you arrested if you tell the truth about their immoral behavior. You don’t have to have them arrested for their “tolerance” to kick in. You don’t have to assault them for their “tolerance” to kick in. You don’t have to deny them their God-given rights for their “tolerance” to kick in.

All you have to do is tell the truth about their dangerous and immoral behavior, and they’ll have you arrested on their word alone–they don’t even need to present any proof to have you hauled off.

Of course, you know the Left will obfuscate and attempt to deceive by stating “Oh, but that’s in other countries.” Uh huh.

And how many thousands of times have we heard from the Left: “We need to be like other socialists countries!”?

And in how many ways have we been marching in the direction of other repressive countries with government takeovers of the health care industry, the auto industry, the finance industry? With attacks on religious freedom to enforce the Leftist agenda? With the trampling of private property rights to push the homosexual agenda?

Leftist tyranny is here, and it’s only a matter of time (maybe not that long) until what Rubio warned about arrives.

When most Democrats support criminalizing “hate speech,” and 37% of “Republicans” (i.e. liberals in Republican clothing) also support criminalizing telling the truth about homosexual behavior, it may not be long at all (unless good people stand up and start being as vocal as the minority Left).

Constitutions and amendments to protect freedom are of no use whatsoever if a people are too stupid and/or too corrupt to ensure their own nation’s highest law is enforced.

As President and signer of the Declaration of Independence John Adams said:

We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net.

Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

Or put more simply by Benjamin Franklin:

Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom.

Hint: We can’t embrace immorality (much less force immorality on people) and remain a virtuous people.
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The Left does not have an agenda on this. The Left sees through secular eyes our Constitution, meaning equality for all. It is purely legal to them, not in anyway moral.

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Jun 1, 2015 08:05:08   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
The Magna Carta was established in England two centuries before the founding of America. The principles of liberty in this document inspired our founding fathers, but they did not pattern our constitution after it. The Magna Carta was the first legal document to establish that leaders did not have arbitrary power, granted under Divine Authority, but instead were subject to the law of the land. In other words, the document limited the power and authority of kings. If you read the DoI, you will see that our founders recognized who the real authority is

If you intend to argue in favor of reality, then get real.
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No actually 1215 was when it was written. Any more responses from you will be ignored. buh bye

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