no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

Parents furious over school’s plan to teach g****r spectrum, fluidity
Todd Starnes

By Todd Starnes Published May 15, 2015 FoxNews.com
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One of the nation’s largest public school systems is preparing to include g****r identity to its classroom curriculum, including lessons on sexual fluidity and spectrum – the idea that there’s no such thing as 100 percent boys or 100 percent girls.

Fairfax County Public Schools released a report recommending changes to their family life curriculum for grades 7 through 12. The changes, which critics call radical g****r ideology, will be formally introduced next week.

“The larger picture is this is really an attack on nature itself – the created order,” said Peter Sprigg of the Family Research Council.

“Human beings are created male and female. But the current t*********r ideology goes way beyond that. They’re telling us you can be both g****rs, you can be no g****r, you can be a g****r that you make up for yourself. And we’re supposed to affirm all of it.”

The plan calls for teaching seventh graders about t*********rism and tenth graders about the concept that sexuality is a broader spectrum --- but it sure smells like unadulterated sex indoctrination.

Get a load of what the kids are going to be learning in middle school:

“Students will be provided definitions for sexual orientation terms heterosexuality, homosexuality and bisexuality; and the g****r identity term t*********r,” the district’s recommendations state. “Emphasis will be placed on recognizing that everyone is experiencing changes and the role of respectful, inclusive language in promoting an environment free of bias and discrimination.”

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Eighth graders will be taught that individual identity “occurs over a lifetime and includes the component of sexual orientation and g****r identity.”

“Individual identity will also be described as having four parts – biological g****r, g****r identity (includes t*********r), g****r role, and sexual orientation (includes heterosexual, bisexual, and homosexual).”

The district will also introduce young teenagers to the “concept that sexuality is a broader spectrum.” By tenth grade, they will be taught that one’s sexuality “develops throughout a lifetime.”

“Emphasis will be placed on an understanding that there is a broader, boundless, and fluid spectrum of sexuality that is developed throughout a lifetime,” the document states. “Sexual orientation and g****r identity terms will be discussed with focus on appreciation for individual differences.”

As you might imagine – parents are freaking out.

“Parents need to protect their kids from this assault,” said Andrea Lafferty, president of Traditional Values Coalition. “Who could imagine that we are in this place today – but we are.”

Last week, the school board v**ed to include g****r identity in the district’s nondiscrimination policy – a decision that was strongly opposed by parents.

Lafferty, who led the opposition to the nondiscrimination policy, warned that the district is moving towards the deconstruction of g****r.

“At the end of this is the deconstruction of g****r - absolutely,” she told me. “The majority of people pushing (this) are not saying that – but that clearly is the motivation.”

LISTEN: Todd’s interview with the Family Research Council

School Board spokesman John Torre told the Washington Times the proposed curriculum changes have nothing to do with last week’s v**e to allow boys who identity as girls to use the bathrooms and locker rooms of their choice.

He would have us believe it was purely coincidental.

To make matters worse, Lafferty contends parents will not be able to opt their children out of the classes because the lessons will be a part of the mandatory health curriculum.

However, Torre told me that parents will indeed be able to opt out of those classes “including the sexual orientation and g****r identity lessons.”

I must confess that I’m a bit old school on sex education. I believe that God created male and female. My reading of the Bible does not indicate there were dozens of other options.

“They are not being forthright with the information,” Lafferty said. “They are not telling people the t***h. They are bullying parents. They are intimidating and they are threatening.”

I must confess that I’m a bit old school on sex education. I believe that God created male and female. My reading of the Bible does not indicate there were dozens of other options.

However, I’m always open to learning new things – so I asked the school district to provide me with the textbooks and scientific data they will be using to instruct the children that there are dozens and dozens of possible g****rs.

Here’s the reply I received from Torre:

“Lessons have not been developed for the proposed lesson objectives,” he stated. “Because of the need to develop lessons, the proposed objectives would not be implemented until fall 2016.”

In other words – they don’t have a clue.

And the Family Research Council’s Sprigg said there’s a pretty good reason why they can’t produce a textbook about fluidity.

“It’s an ideological concept,” he told me. “It’s not a scientific one.”

He warned that Fairfax County’s planned curriculum could be harmful to students.

“It’s only going to create more confusion in the minds of young people who don’t need any further confusion about sexual identity,” he said.

The board will introduce the changes on May 21. Lafferty said she hopes parents will turn out in force to voice their objections.

Todd Starnes is host of Fox News & Commentary, heard on hundreds of radio stations. His latest book is "God Less America."



This concept of biological g****r being only the g****r you were "assigned at birth" but not what you really are has no scientific basis, and is just another "progressive idea aimed to disrupt Western society. All you have to do is read "The Naked C*******t" to understand the goals of the left. Promoting a g****rless society helps remove individuality and is just another step toward government dictating your every move. There is no scientific evidence that there are fifty different sexes so the concept of g****r as defining your sex was developed to convince people that male and female families are an a******l occurrence. Other than a small number of people born with indeterminate g*****ls, humans are male or female. Yes some men are small boned, more elegant, and some are build like linebackers but both are men, not some confused in between concept. The attempt to convince people otherwise has been part of the "progressive" movement for years, and now they are really working hard at it. Parents need to teach their children that they are boys and girls, not both, neither, purple penguins, or tailless monkeys.

funguy1949

It's time parents to gather in Washington an beat the hell out of any and all liberals an that includes the one's who say they are conservatives,but the t***h they are liberals who are in conservatives sheep skins.I do know one thing let the kid's make their own judgement of who they are.An if they want to further their education about g****r's let them go to college to learn about it.They have enough BS liberalism problems in school and need not be bothered by this crap/need to dump the hole school system an do home schooling.

EL Loc: Massachusetts

When did they start teaching this kind of thing in school? No wonder they don't know much of anything else these days.

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

Do you hold a PhD in G****r Psychology, such that you can provide anecdotal evidence to doubt the importance of at least talking about this problem?

Nope: you don't. You have opinions based on a life frustration and seeing others frustrated. Maybe the very conversation that kids need to have could help alleviate the pain that is caused by what society believes is the way one should be.

Oliver Loc: Dayton, OH

If every parent in every state who calls himself/herself a "born-again" Christian would pull his/her children out of the public school system and into a private institution then the public system would almost overnight either change or go bankrupt.

Challenge to all Christian parents: For what are you waiting? Isn't the "handwriting on the wall" clear enough for you yet? Why continue to fight a corrupted system that cares absolutely nothing for Christian values or for you as Christian parents? The most sure, quickest, and easiest way to say "NO!" to your public school board is to pull your children and put them into a God-fearing school system.

Please read carefully and take to heart Mark 8:38; Luke 9:26; Matthew 10:32; and Deuteronomy 6:6-9, 10:12-14, 11:18-21.

Challenge, also, to all Christian teachers: Either you will not be ashamed of the Christian gospel and speak openly (as many have already done) about Christian principles of morality or you will be ashamed of the Christian gospel and go mute. Besides Mark 8:38, Luke 9:26, and Matthew 10:32, please read what the apostles said when they were commanded to not speak the name of Jesus in public (Acts 4:18-19). Let it be known that if you go mute, then you "...love the praise of men more than praise from God". John 12:43

Know too, that if you do not speak out in favor of Christian moral values that you know (or should know) to be true, then you love the IN-security of you job here on earth and put at high risk the security and blessings of an eternal relationship with Christ.

May the Lord give to you parents and teachers a new love for His word and the internal fortitude to act upon it today. Remember His word to us:
1. "And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age." Matthew 28:20
2. "Do not fear for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God, Who strengthens you; I will help you always; I will always uphold you with my saving right hand!" Isaiah 41:10

missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore

All of this social upheaval seemed to get kick started with LBJ's great society B.S.

DanceTherapist Loc: NYC, now Oakland, Ca

Poppa Gringo, it's apparent that you have not known
anyone personally, and well, who is t*********red, I've known many.

I can tell you that they are happier in their "identified"
g****r. There are studies being done, scientific studies, with children as young as 3 years old, who identify as other than their physical g*****ls. They are being followed long term.

There have been brain scans which show that there are differences in these youngsters, born with a set of
g*****ls, and these kids do NOT feel that that is who
they are. There is one young "girl", with ambiguous
g*****ls: the physician at birth made a decision - her
genetalia were not exactly female or male - to "interfer" with her g*****ls, snipping off the small
penis, creating a vulva, etc.

This little girl told her parents when she was three years old that she felt like a boy. That she didn't want
to wear dresses, etc. She (along with HIS supportive
parents) became part of this study.

This kid, named Skyler, is a boy. He is happy and
"Proud"; happy because he is who he is and proud
that his parents accept him and back him up.

Skyler has had no problems in school.

Bathrooms are no issue.

Poppa Gringo, you need to do some research into
these studies. Very interesting, and, most of all
informative with hard, real data.

Check out PBS Newshour at pbs/newshour.org, and
find the study on their home page.

I hope it opens your mind to this new reality among
our children. I have one friend, who is a jewlerer,
and when she was a lesbian, I didn't like her very
much. She began t***sitioning, and, what a difference,
He was in the right body, and I really enjoy bumping
into him now and again. He comes to the East Bay
for Doctor's appointments, but lives in S.F., has had
his license changed to reflect his identity. Has had a
child with a woman, and I've lost track of him, although I do know how to get in touch.

So many fearful parents, districts. This is real everywhere.

This is not propoganda. This is a new world. Can you
imagine a child who is 3 or 4 or 5, who knows who
h/she really is. And that child's parents supporting
them strongly.

This is enlightened teaching. No one is going to be
"bullied" into become a "homosexual" or to insist that
someone go through a hormonal process that any
child who feels that s/he was absolutely born in the
right body, and identifies as her/his original sex.

People are so fearful that this is propaganda, and it is
merely education. A real world happening right now,
and for years now. Since the 1930's and 1940's, when
women were not only shamed; fired from their jobs,
mostly in the Trades, if someone suspected that the
"man" working next to him on an assembly line was
really a "woman". This was a terrible, frightening
time for these women and their partners.

I suggest you read a book called "Stone Butch Blues".
It is autobiographic, and it shows how these butches
were not just shamed, but fired from their jobs, which
were mostly in the Trades, if someone began to suspect that this man working next to someone,
became suspiscious that this man was actually a
biological woman. This book is heart breaking. The
author, in reality, is now a powerful activist, and is
living (probably married by now) to a well known
writer. This writer's children took to calling him, "D**g
Dad". Get it at a used book store, or your library.

It will certainly be mind-opening, factual, and ubiquitous in reality.

Children learning these facts are not going to be
"pushed" into becoming who they are not. Parents and
school districts are so narrow-minded, and pre-judge
curriculum which is pertinent in this world now.

I'm surprised that you are bothered by this. I imagine
that you've not known a "t****y" of any sort (that,
perhaps you have and didn't know it).

This is education. Data-based.

I hope others read this, and have a better understanding of t***sgenered people, and those who
are so young. It is amazing.

Diane DiMassa's drawing of HotHeadPaisan, homicidal lesbian terrorist. She is my alter ego. All revenge, no remorse. Both of my (straight) kids read the collection of her comics and loved them. Son and daughter.


Girlfriend, my first, our first, when we were 17 years old. No idea why she colors her hair blonde. She is very Italian. We are still in touch, and we are vey special to one another.


My son, visiting my first cousin, Sarah, who looks healthy. This was months before she died at age 50, of a recurrence of tongue cancer. She and her adopted brother were/are gay/lesbian. I miss her terribly.

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

Yes, there are a small number of people who are born with indeterminant g*****ls, and because of extra X c********es have indeterminate brain function. they are not t*********r however they are assigned a g****r at birth because they had not developed one due to genetic MISTAKES( mosaics) However, there have been no scientific studies of a large number of children with g****r identity disorder which determined all were mosaics. Most of the people who have sex reassignment do not fit in this category They often have reproduced before deciding to change sex, and, as the studies indicate the true mosaics do not develop fertile organs in either sex, due to the fact that they have a******lities. If someone would do a study of half of those in the last twenty years who have had sex reassignment surgery to find out how many had these genetic a******lities and had to have g*****ls build of one sex or the other, and how many were suffering from dissociative disease and severe depression. A Johns Hopkins study found that treating the severe depression and dissociative disease with drugs and therapy removed the desire for sex reassignment surgery. Maybe you can come up with the references for a study of a sufficient number of people who are mosaics and happy with the sex they were assigned, a number who were not happy with the assigned sex, and at least a thousand randomly chosen people who want sex reassignment surgery or have had it, and the data proves that they really do have mosaic differences no one knew about before then the statement would prove to be valid.

As far as your friend who died of tongue cancer, i am sorry to hear that, it must be a horrible way to die. Had an associate (not a friend, as I knew her only casually) who had tongue cancer and died of it. she had been a heavy smoker and regular user of pot so it didn't surprise anyone, but it still was really bad.

Do you suppose that the sexual abuse that you said you had as a child was part of the reason that you became same sex attracted?

DanceTherapist Loc: NYC, now Oakland, Ca

I'd replied but it disappeared. So, of course, your point is well taken that many more (and larger studies) needs to be done. However; the study that was reported by PBS Newshour was very interesting, in all
manner of ways.

I know about the mosaic genes, etc., all of which you cited very well.

To answer your personal question. No, it was not the
sexual abuse that "made" me a lesbian. I had been
with boys and men, before I was 17 years old. I'd
found it, sorry about the t***h of these words, boring,
uneventful, not fun, nothing. Without going in to great
detail - when I was 17 years old, and had been invited by a friend (at that time all my friends were Italian or
Sicilian) to meet her cousin. So, she and her "friend",
who I quickly learned, was not just a friend, picked me
up, and this other 17 year old cousin...we went to a
club (not a lesbian club), f**e I.D. and all. I was a
Senior in High School. When we drove back to my
parent's place, this cousin moved over in the back seat, and kissed me.

I went in and wrote in my diary - not called a "journal" at that time. OMG - a girl just kissed me, and I kissed her back, and wow, I really liked it. I was both
freaked out and happy. Some people I've met who have known about the abuse have asked me the same thing or have said to me: "I'm surprised you're not a
lesbian because of all that abuse". I've chosen not to
"come out" to them mostly, because they were not
close to me.

Yes, bigger studies need to be done.

My cousin never smoked. She and her girlfriend, Jennie, went to Germany, with Sarah's IV of saline solution. She didn't eat for many years. And her girlfriend's mother lived near this clinic. There was a
new treatment. Burning around the actual cancer on
the tongue. Sarah stood it as long as she could, so
they returned to California. There had been a fund set
up - "Tiger down, needs help up", by one of her closest friends, a psychologist and an attorney, both. Many of
us, immediate family, contributed what we we could.
So many others, anonymously, gave thousands for this
trip and treatment.

And, in the end, for hospice at Jen's apartment, and
then the difficult decision to have Sarah moved to
hospice care. I visited her innumerable times.

Her brother, gay, had been alienated from the entire family for almost 2 decades, and when my uncle,
Sarah's dad died, he didn't show up. However; when
Sarah left, he wanted a lot. Real estate. My uncle's,
and Sarah's own home. I've not been in touch with this amazing woman who was handling everything, including the law suit.

Sarah did find that smoking marijuana, with a
vaporizor, so indirectly, helped before the point when
she was on morphine. My brother helped her with the
machinery and the product.

Before that, she'd never smoked pot. She didn't use
drugs or drink. When she was well, she enjoyed a
glass of wine with dinner, and I appreciated the fact,
that when we had Thanksgiving at my mother's house,
and my brother said some s**te, she immediately stood up to him. She was that way. I loved her. I'd
known her since she was a new-born. I lived with that
family as a teenager, when I was very troubled,
depressed, didn't understand what I really felt and
why...and so on and so on. So I knew both of those
kids.

I knew immediately that he was gay and that Sarah was a baby-butch, as we say. When I told her that, as
an adult, she said to me: "I wish you'd told me that when I was a teenager"!!! She'd been upset and confused by her feelings - she thought, first, she was
"supposed to be attracted to the opposite sex", and
she wasn't. She figured it out without me. And later,
she helped me, encouraged me - told me about her
experience in law school, when a "femme" asked her to go get coffee, and they lived together for years.

I am a very feminine woman. I am not attracted to
feminine women. My daughter is surpised. Who knows, maybe I might be. I just don't know. Dating - is
something I think about, and wonder - what the hell
does THAT mean. "Dating". The women I've been with
since I've been clean - BTW, all of these relationships were really f**ked. 2 lasted way too long. And, yes,
these women were "butches" to one degree. There is a large spectrum....some do not want to identify as
"anything". Bi-sexuality is something I just don't get.

People (straight ones) very often think and believe,
that if a lesbian is feminine, she is attracted to "butches" as a sort of "f**e" man. It's just not true.
I don't know if you feel that way. You'd have to be
able to step into my shoes, so to speak, and feel how
I feel. It is - what's a good description? - a fallacy, and
a shallow one, that a "butch lesbian" is equivalent to a
"man". Not true. My experience lets me understand
that.

I hope this has been a private conversation. If not, well, so be it. Thanks for your comments, and I did not
mind at all answering your question. As I said, it's been asked of me before. I am not usually as
forthcoming - if I know these people and we're close,
they already know me and the answer to that.

Take care.
:thumbup: :thumbup: :-) :!:

DanceTherapist Loc: NYC, now Oakland, Ca

Now I know it is private. I did click on "quote", etc. It's better for
me. I don't especially want many people on OPP to see me that imtimately. Did I say that Sarah, my cousin,
never smoked cigarettes or pot? Never. Not just my
first cousin, she was, a true friend. I think no photographs. I'm sure you've seen me and my family,
probably too much. It's just how much I love them.
The few who are left. That makes me very

:-( although enough time has passed, so, unless I
speak outload to a close friend, I no longer cry.
Thank you, no propaganda. Do try to find that PBS
Newshour reporting. I'm sure you can. If I could remember the date...last week, for sure. :)

My son, his 4 month old son, my grandson, swimming. Can you see the love?


My son and I were taking turns pushing Bay, my grandson, on the baby swing. We were celebrating my 21 years clean in a park near their house. Thai food, my son, daughter-in-law, and all the joy. What could be better? I really am under that big hat.

funguy1949

That's because of all the liberal BS they teach now days to the KID's.It's crap to say the lest.Math know wonder the kids need a machine to help them make change.

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

Thank you for your open and honest responses, they should be very informative to all who read them, both as a way to understand how complicated the human psyche is and to get a little idea of the number of ways that abuse is a forever damage. those who are trying to help can only do so much, but some part of the victim never really heals. As one of "our boys" said to me about the molester "He put a hole in my soul and all the happiness leaked out" We can try to make the hole smaller, but cannot totally repair it. the boy is now an adult and in contact with us often and he says there is still a hole where the memories seep back in to haunt him. And yet the law and most people treat child abuse lightly, often folling the guidelines of Alfred Kinsey that children are born sexual beings so they should begin having intimate contact with adults at an early age.
No, I didn't ask if your childhood sexual abuse caused you to be same sex attracted, just if you thought it might be one factor. I have seen a number of studies that women who are same sex attracted were molested by men at a much higher frequency than women who are opposite sex attracted. Interestingly the studies of boys who were molested by men indicate that they are much more likely to be same sex attracted as adults. We have had a couple of boys we worked with who said they were girls in male bodies. They were sure that if they had been girls they would not have been molested by men. Once they realized that different men molest boys than molest girls, although when it comes to small children many molest what ever is available. the Molesters are evil, the children were not willing participants.

All things considered you sound as if you have coped extraordinarily well and your family should be very proud. My advice is not to post family photos on an open forum. There are a number of posters who will attempt to use the photos to their own ends, which are often nefarious. Protect your grandson, keep his photos off the OPP and be careful on Facebook too.

Workinman Loc: Bayou Pigeon

T*********rs are so happy in fact that the suicide rate for them is 20% higher...

Johns Hopkins Psychiatrist: T*********r is ‘Mental Disorder;' S*x C****e ‘Biologically Impossible’
By Michael W. Chapman | August 20, 2014

Dr. Paul R. McHugh, the former psychiatrist-in-chief for Johns Hopkins Hospital and its current Distinguished Service Professor of Psychiatry. (Photo: Johns Hopkins Medicine)" type="node

(CNSNews.com) -- Dr. Paul R. McHugh, the former psychiatrist-in-chief for Johns Hopkins Hospital and its current Distinguished Service Professor of Psychiatry, said that t*********rism is a “mental disorder” that merits treatment, that s*x c****e is “biologically impossible,” and that people who promote sexual reassignment surgery are collaborating with and promoting a mental disorder.

Dr. McHugh, the author of six books and at least 125 peer-reviewed medical articles, made his remarks in a recent commentary in the Wall Street Journal, where he explained that t*********r surgery is not the solution for people who suffer a “disorder of ‘assumption’” – the notion that their maleness or femaleness is different than what nature assigned to them biologically.

He also reported on a new study showing that the suicide rate among t*********red people who had reassignment surgery is 20 times higher than the suicide rate among non-t*********r people. Dr. McHugh further noted studies from Vanderbilt University and London’s Portman Clinic of children who had expressed t*********r feelings but for whom, over time, 70%-80% “spontaneously lost those feelings.”

While the Obama administration, Hollywood, and major media such as Time magazine promote t*********rism as normal, said Dr. McHugh, these “policy makers and the media are doing no favors either to the public or the t*********red by treating their confusions as a right in need of defending rather than as a mental disorder that deserves understanding, treatment and prevention.”

DanceTherapist Loc: NYC, now Oakland, Ca

workinman, how to respond? I know about suicide rates for different populations, different sexual
preferences, and so on. I also know that the trauma of
appearance, and its consequences can be horrific, and
many t******s have been k**led, and you site 20% are
suicides. I didn't pronounce that all t******s are
"happy". It is a different world, altogether.

To you, I again propose, that you find on
pbsnewshour.org the program on the study, not large
enough my any means, of children who know at such
a young age, that they are in the wrong body.

jelun

So true. Many of us remember when Freud was considered credible.
Where is all that theory now?