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Why do I let myself worry? (And who is that singing in the background.)
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Mar 24, 2015 09:28:02   #
mcmlx
 
Kachina wrote:
I am pretty sure when the Bible was written, their was not terrorists, gangs, rapists, murderers, crooks, kidnappings etc. the world is f_____d up! Any loving parent would worry with the world the way it is, if not you would not be a very good parent.


Have to disagree, Kachina. Any loving parent can give the child to GOD, just like Moses was given, and trust that our creator is in control.
That's why Jesus said " Look at the birds of the air, for they neither sow, nor reap nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they?
"Which of you by worrying can add one cubit to his stature?"
Matthew 6:26,27.
GOD loves us! HE made us for a reason.
And I will testify to the fact that sometimes casting my cares upon HIM isn't a just a daily practice, it's moment by moment. 1 Peter 5:6
MCMLX

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Mar 24, 2015 09:44:18   #
mcmlx
 
Kachina wrote:
I am pretty sure when the Bible was written, their was not terrorists, gangs, rapists, murderers, crooks, kidnappings etc. the world is f_____d up! Any loving parent would worry with the world the way it is, if not you would not be a very good parent.


I respectfully disagree. 1 Peter 5:6,7 instructs me to humble myself to GOD, and to cast my care upon HIM, because HE cares for me.
When JESUS speaks in Matthew 6, he asks us that if the Father feeds the birds of the air, how much more will he care for me? And who by worrying can add one cubit to his stature?
HIS words aren't "easy" to follow in this respect, but having to practice, not daily, but every moment, has taught me that HIS word is the T***H.
MCMLX

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Mar 24, 2015 13:37:52   #
mcmlx
 
And, JDunne, the first thing you said was that worrying makes you feel like you're doing something.
I have wasted time and energy worrying.
I am actually doing something more worthwhile by practicing faith.
Little bit harder, but it's worth the effort

MCMLX

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Mar 24, 2015 14:02:24   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
JDunneNow wrote:
Worry seems like I am doing something. Wh**ever it is--the economy, our vacation, next week's picnic, my daughter's recital--I feel worry is somehow being dutiful. Yet, and I did not count these myself, supposedly there are 356 injunctions in the Bible against worry (fear). This seems wrong to me as a parent. Isn't it natural and right to worry about our child in strange circumstances beyond our presence or control? Are we really human and Christian to let their safety go and be at peace, trusting in God to protect them?

Obviously, I am a sinner in this category of "Fear not." Yet I do not feel comfortable in that role, either justified nor condemned. I am perplexed over this point. Help needed!
Worry seems like I am doing something. Wh**ever it... (show quote)

Sir, I am not certain of the source of this quote...."Anxiety in a man's heart weighs it down, but an encouraging word makes it glad."

I encourage you, while paying due diligence to their safety, to rejoice in the everyday blessings of your children and bask in the joy of their presence. :thumbup:

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Mar 24, 2015 17:17:26   #
mcmlx
 
slatten49 wrote:
Sir, I am not certain of the source of this quote...."Anxiety in a man's heart weighs it down, but an encouraging word makes it glad."

I encourage you, while paying due diligence to their safety, to rejoice in the everyday blessings of your children and bask in the joy of their presence. :thumbup:


Yes, slatten. You encouraged me by your words also.
When we lift one another up, we tend to be lifted too.
Thank you.
MCMLX

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Mar 24, 2015 18:20:18   #
Kachina
 
UncleJesse wrote:
You're not Amish because you use the internet but that's what they believe. I think there is a priority scheme when you believe teachings conflict. That's when you have to follow your gut, do the right thing and place others before yourself usually but sometimes you need to be first in order to serve the most later.


Of course not. You are human and God understands that. You would not be a very good parent if you didn't worry or care what happened to your children. It is a scary world we live in

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Mar 24, 2015 23:34:40   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
mcmlx wrote:
Yes, slatten. You encouraged me by your words also.
When we lift one another up, we tend to be lifted too.
Thank you.
MCMLX

You are welcome, 1960. :wink: I view my children and grandchildren as my greatest legacy. :thumbup:

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Mar 24, 2015 23:46:46   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
slatten49 wrote:
Sir, I am not certain of the source of this quote...."Anxiety in a man's heart weighs it down, but an encouraging word makes it glad."

I encourage you, while paying due diligence to their safety, to rejoice in the everyday blessings of your children and bask in the joy of their presence. :thumbup:


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Mar 25, 2015 19:22:27   #
JDunneNow
 
jeremiahbfrog wrote:
Much of what I gathered about being a "true christian" goes against basic instinct and other world functions that seem proper and right.


Very uncomfortably but nicely said. Do you include worry over your children? That's my worry, lol.

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Mar 25, 2015 19:30:07   #
JDunneNow
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Worry is not only necessary, but healthy. The bible speaks of UNNECESSARY WORRY. That is worrying to the point of making yourself ill or becoming antisocial or preoccupied with problems. Thus, it is not a sin to be normal. It is a sin to overcompensate or unduly worrying over things you possess no command. So, worry about your children because the bible tells us we have to ensure they are well cared for and raised right.... and you cannot do that unless you are concerned for them. The bible also says to assume attention of your household (spouse) and you can not do that without concern or trouble. It also says to be always mindful of paying attention to doing the good thing, once more an impossibility unless you have concerns. But do not let it eat you.
Worry is not only necessary, but healthy. The bib... (show quote)


Do you differentiate between worry and fear? If so, how so? Worry seems to fall under the category of fear and plainly stated most often in scripture is "Fear not!" Not excessively but not. Yet I agree with what you said on the topic, I just can't get my head around it. A question, and this shows you how adrift I am, does concern necessarily fall in this category? Maybe I should just grab a beer and play a video game.

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Mar 25, 2015 19:32:20   #
JDunneNow
 
mcmlx wrote:
You answered your own question. To be worried and to feel justified in worrying about the things which we can't control just doesn't make sense.
If I trust that GOD is in control when I can't be, then there is no problem.
It's simple for me because I had to face the fact that I can't control other people.
And it took a while. &#128527;
MCMLX


Thank you. That's the other and maddening side to me. It is simple: just trust God with all your heart, mind, and strength--no worry! (In a small voice) But that does not seem quite right.

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Mar 25, 2015 19:39:03   #
JDunneNow
 
UncleJesse wrote:
You're not Amish because you use the internet but that's what they believe. I think there is a priority scheme when you believe teachings conflict. That's when you have to follow your gut, do the right thing and place others before yourself usually but sometimes you need to be first in order to serve the most later.


Another point I have yet to touch on and may be the biggest: "trusting my gut." Which gut? The gut of my faith or the gut of the world? Some Christians may give a quick and easy answer to this because of the phrase "of the world." But by that I mean the instinctual desire to protect and care for those close to us. Is worry really useful and necessary in this? I like what pennylynn had to say yet still have a quandry: if the word says "Fear not!" maybe there is more to be revealed on the subject.

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Mar 25, 2015 19:49:54   #
JDunneNow
 
mcmlx wrote:
Have to disagree, Kachina. Any loving parent can give the child to GOD, just like Moses was given, and trust that our creator is in control.
That's why Jesus said " Look at the birds of the air, for they neither sow, nor reap nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they?
"Which of you by worrying can add one cubit to his stature?"
Matthew 6:26,27.
GOD loves us! HE made us for a reason.
And I will testify to the fact that sometimes casting my cares upon HIM isn't a just a daily practice, it's moment by moment. 1 Peter 5:6
MCMLX
Have to disagree, Kachina. Any loving parent can ... (show quote)


Thank you. I think you finally helped me pin down what is bothering me and I am embarrassed to say it is not primarily about following the word, as it may have appeared. My concern (worry?) is that if I do not fuss (worry) over my daughter, she may not feel safe or certain that I deeply care about her. At nine, she is not a theological or philosophical keystone: she is a kid. Show her love and attention times ten may not be enough. "I was late by an hour dad, why are you home watching a movie and not pacing the halls or wndering the streets?" Smiling benignly back, "I knew God had you safe in his hands." Feel this was true by act out for here benefit? Maddening.

And maybe I am not giving her enough credit or truly worrisome enough faith.

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