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Mar 23, 2015 23:56:56   #
JDunneNow
 
Worry seems like I am doing something. Wh**ever it is--the economy, our vacation, next week's picnic, my daughter's recital--I feel worry is somehow being dutiful. Yet, and I did not count these myself, supposedly there are 356 injunctions in the Bible against worry (fear). This seems wrong to me as a parent. Isn't it natural and right to worry about our child in strange circumstances beyond our presence or control? Are we really human and Christian to let their safety go and be at peace, trusting in God to protect them?

Obviously, I am a sinner in this category of "Fear not." Yet I do not feel comfortable in that role, either justified nor condemned. I am perplexed over this point. Help needed!

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Mar 24, 2015 00:00:37   #
jeremiahbfrog
 
JDunneNow wrote:
Worry seems like I am doing something. Wh**ever it is--the economy, our vacation, next week's picnic, my daughter's recital--I feel worry is somehow being dutiful. Yet, and I did not count these myself, supposedly there are 356 injunctions in the Bible against worry (fear). This seems wrong to me as a parent. Isn't it natural and right to worry about our child in strange circumstances beyond our presence or control? Are we really human and Christian to let their safety go and be at peace, trusting in God to protect them?

Obviously, I am a sinner in this category of "Fear not." Yet I do not feel comfortable in that role, either justified nor condemned. I am perplexed over this point. Help needed!
Worry seems like I am doing something. Wh**ever it... (show quote)


Much of what I gathered about being a "true christian" goes against basic instinct and other world functions that seem proper and right.

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Mar 24, 2015 00:18:37   #
JDunneNow
 
jeremiahbfrog wrote:
Much of what I gathered about being a "true christian" goes against basic instinct and other world functions that seem proper and right.


An instinctual love and need to protect our child seems a sign of love, not a defect.

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Mar 24, 2015 00:22:30   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
I agree and you know better as the knowledge is in your heart. There's is a good amount of it that makes a person take appropriate actions and too much of it just gets in the way of living.

I agree, unless you are God, there's going to be that uncertainty of knowing. You know the end result will be okay but what is bothersome is the potential turmoil on the way there.

Being totally accepting without a healthy amount of worry to make sure you are not being negligent is not normal.

If it makes you feel any better, remember the anguish in the garden of Gethsemane. While He was facing betrayal, denial from friends, false accusations, torture and death which is much more than economy, vacation, picnic and recital, it still applies how worry is a normal part of life.

JDunneNow wrote:
Worry seems like I am doing something. Wh**ever it is--the economy, our vacation, next week's picnic, my daughter's recital--I feel worry is somehow being dutiful. Yet, and I did not count these myself, supposedly there are 356 injunctions in the Bible against worry (fear). This seems wrong to me as a parent. Isn't it natural and right to worry about our child in strange circumstances beyond our presence or control? Are we really human and Christian to let their safety go and be at peace, trusting in God to protect them?

Obviously, I am a sinner in this category of "Fear not." Yet I do not feel comfortable in that role, either justified nor condemned. I am perplexed over this point. Help needed!
Worry seems like I am doing something. Wh**ever it... (show quote)

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Mar 24, 2015 00:28:26   #
JDunneNow
 
UncleJesse wrote:
I agree and you know better as the knowledge is in your heart. There's is a good amount of it that makes a person take appropriate actions and too much of it just gets in the way of living.

I agree, unless you are God, there's going to be that uncertainty of knowing. You know the end result will be okay but what is bothersome is the potential turmoil on the way there.

Being totally accepting without a healthy amount of worry to make sure you are not being negligent is not normal.

If it makes you feel any better, remember the anguish in the garden of Gethsemane. While He was facing betrayal, denial from friends, false accusations, torture and death which is much more than economy, vacation, picnic and recital, it still applies how worry is a normal part of life.
I agree and you know better as the knowledge is in... (show quote)


Thank you, I think. "Being totally accepting without a healthy amount of worry to make sure you are not being negligent is not normal." But being "normal" is not in the equation. Trusting in God does not mean turning to stupid or naive. It is vigilance. A discerning and watchful eye does not necessarily t***slate into fearful or worried.

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Mar 24, 2015 00:40:59   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
JDunneNow wrote:
Worry seems like I am doing something. Wh**ever it is--the economy, our vacation, next week's picnic, my daughter's recital--I feel worry is somehow being dutiful. Yet, and I did not count these myself, supposedly there are 356 injunctions in the Bible against worry (fear). This seems wrong to me as a parent. Isn't it natural and right to worry about our child in strange circumstances beyond our presence or control? Are we really human and Christian to let their safety go and be at peace, trusting in God to protect them?

Obviously, I am a sinner in this category of "Fear not." Yet I do not feel comfortable in that role, either justified nor condemned. I am perplexed over this point. Help needed!
Worry seems like I am doing something. Wh**ever it... (show quote)


Let me toss this at you. Interestingly enough, I just shortly ago, this evening, had a communication on sin. There are venal sins and mortal sins...I believe. Worry is a venal sin and does not separate you in your relationship with God. A mortal sin separates you from God. I cannot know the thoughts of God; however, believe he knows the most difficult thing to do is say, "Here, God. I put this in your hands and trust you to handle it for me."

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Mar 24, 2015 00:58:43   #
JDunneNow
 
AuntiE wrote:
Let me toss this at you. Interestingly enough, I just shortly ago, this evening, had a communication on sin. There are venal sins and mortal sins...I believe. Worry is a venal sin and does not separate you in your relationship with God. A mortal sin separates you from God. I cannot know the thoughts of God; however, believe he knows the most difficult thing to do is say, "Here, God. I put this in your hands and trust you to handle it for me."


Thank you so much. AuntiE. I could not see a God who created us as he did judging us wrong for worry about our kids. But then again, I thought I was not faithful or trusting enough. Your breakdown helped immensely.

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Mar 24, 2015 01:39:46   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
Writing is easier than doing but I see where you were going. I wonder how Jesus would have responded to one of the sleeping disciples if one awoke and said, "Jesus Christ, a watchful eye is not fearful or worried so go to sleep"?

JDunneNow wrote:
Thank you, I think. "Being totally accepting without a healthy amount of worry to make sure you are not being negligent is not normal." But being "normal" is not in the equation. Trusting in God does not mean turning to stupid or naive. It is vigilance. A discerning and watchful eye does not necessarily t***slate into fearful or worried.

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Mar 24, 2015 02:03:50   #
JDunneNow
 
UncleJesse wrote:
Writing is easier than doing but I see where you were going. I wonder how Jesus would have responded to one of the sleeping disciples if one awoke and said, "Jesus Christ, a watchful eye is not fearful or worried so go to sleep"?


Great point! But I am still confused. Is being human expected up to a point in a process? Are we to shed all worldly concern, both our own and those we care for, to embrace Christ purely?

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Mar 24, 2015 02:39:04   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Worry is not only necessary, but healthy. The bible speaks of UNNECESSARY WORRY. That is worrying to the point of making yourself ill or becoming antisocial or preoccupied with problems. Thus, it is not a sin to be normal. It is a sin to overcompensate or unduly worrying over things you possess no command. So, worry about your children because the bible tells us we have to ensure they are well cared for and raised right.... and you cannot do that unless you are concerned for them. The bible also says to assume attention of your household (spouse) and you can not do that without concern or trouble. It also says to be always mindful of paying attention to doing the good thing, once more an impossibility unless you have concerns. But do not let it eat you.
JDunneNow wrote:
Worry seems like I am doing something. Wh**ever it is--the economy, our vacation, next week's picnic, my daughter's recital--I feel worry is somehow being dutiful. Yet, and I did not count these myself, supposedly there are 356 injunctions in the Bible against worry (fear). This seems wrong to me as a parent. Isn't it natural and right to worry about our child in strange circumstances beyond our presence or control? Are we really human and Christian to let their safety go and be at peace, trusting in God to protect them?

Obviously, I am a sinner in this category of "Fear not." Yet I do not feel comfortable in that role, either justified nor condemned. I am perplexed over this point. Help needed!
Worry seems like I am doing something. Wh**ever it... (show quote)

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Mar 24, 2015 02:48:54   #
mcmlx
 
JDunneNow wrote:
Worry seems like I am doing something. Wh**ever it is--the economy, our vacation, next week's picnic, my daughter's recital--I feel worry is somehow being dutiful. Yet, and I did not count these myself, supposedly there are 356 injunctions in the Bible against worry (fear). This seems wrong to me as a parent. Isn't it natural and right to worry about our child in strange circumstances beyond our presence or control? Are we really human and Christian to let their safety go and be at peace, trusting in God to protect them?

Obviously, I am a sinner in this category of "Fear not." Yet I do not feel comfortable in that role, either justified nor condemned. I am perplexed over this point. Help needed!
Worry seems like I am doing something. Wh**ever it... (show quote)


You answered your own question. To be worried and to feel justified in worrying about the things which we can't control just doesn't make sense.
If I trust that GOD is in control when I can't be, then there is no problem.
It's simple for me because I had to face the fact that I can't control other people.
And it took a while. 😏
MCMLX

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Mar 24, 2015 08:23:11   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Seems to me I have to disagree with worry and being concerned as the same thing !

I learned yrs ago that worrying over things I had no control of was fruitless and can be a bad for one's health !

Example as a farmer at times I'm concerned that there is no rain insight but I don't spend any time worrying about it as I have no control of the situation !



Pennylynn wrote:
Worry is not only necessary, but healthy. The bible speaks of UNNECESSARY WORRY. That is worrying to the point of making yourself ill or becoming antisocial or preoccupied with problems. Thus, it is not a sin to be normal. It is a sin to overcompensate or unduly worrying over things you possess no command. So, worry about your children because the bible tells us we have to ensure they are well cared for and raised right.... and you cannot do that unless you are concerned for them. The bible also says to assume attention of your household (spouse) and you can not do that without concern or trouble. It also says to be always mindful of paying attention to doing the good thing, once more an impossibility unless you have concerns. But do not let it eat you.
Worry is not only necessary, but healthy. The bib... (show quote)

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Mar 24, 2015 08:27:14   #
Kachina
 
JDunneNow wrote:
Thank you, I think. "Being totally accepting without a healthy amount of worry to make sure you are not being negligent is not normal." But being "normal" is not in the equation. Trusting in God does not mean turning to stupid or naive. It is vigilance. A discerning and watchful eye does not necessarily t***slate into fearful or worried.


I am pretty sure when the Bible was written, their was not terrorists, gangs, rapists, murderers, crooks, kidnappings etc. the world is f_____d up! Any loving parent would worry with the world the way it is, if not you would not be a very good parent.

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Mar 24, 2015 08:50:40   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Sorry...which bible are you talking about? All the evil you see now existed throughout time, for the moment that Adam and Eve had to leave the garden.... when they had to deal with outsiders, the wars, savagery began. That is why God created his first children in a isolated spot....to save them from learning evil. And that is why God gave laws to his children, those who were directed to spread the word about there being one true God. And I speak not just of the big 10, but the other 613 laws dealing with everything from how one prepares food to how to humanely take the life of an animal. And within these laws are directions on how to keep your children safe. The old testament, especially the first five books are filled with interesting things..... good things for all religions to know about.



Kachina wrote:
I am pretty sure when the Bible was written, their was not terrorists, gangs, rapists, murderers, crooks, kidnappings etc. the world is f_____d up! Any loving parent would worry with the world the way it is, if not you would not be a very good parent.

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Mar 24, 2015 09:07:31   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
You're not Amish because you use the internet but that's what they believe. I think there is a priority scheme when you believe teachings conflict. That's when you have to follow your gut, do the right thing and place others before yourself usually but sometimes you need to be first in order to serve the most later.

JDunneNow wrote:
Great point! But I am still confused. Is being human expected up to a point in a process? Are we to shed all worldly concern, both our own and those we care for, to embrace Christ purely?

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