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Mar 24, 2015 11:10:44   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
Can you read????


I did budgets for the AF,,, yes, I know what an allocation and approval is,,,,

maybe you should actually know something before you open your mouth... but past performance doesnt indicate you ever will,,,

Or is it, that you think as a major and lpn,,, you are the epitome of knowledge,,, because the facts dont prove that especially in your case...


You can't even see the hole you're digging for yourself? Others might read these posts and remember your behavior in other instances. I am not at fault for your insecurities and you'll never convince anyone else that I am - or yourself either.

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Mar 24, 2015 11:25:16   #
Ve'hoe
 
You are going emotional on me.... because you havent the knowledge you think you do.... nor have I accused you of anything,,,, you claimed I was wrong,,,, and I am not..



The CBO publishes an analysis of the President's budget proposals.

In March, the budget committees consider the President's budget proposals in the light of the CBO budget report, and each committee submits a budget resolution to its house by April 1. The House and Senate each consider these budget resolutions and are expected to pass them, possibly with amendments, by April 15


Funds for federal government programs must be authorized by an "authorizing committee" through enactment of legislation.

Then, through subsequent acts by Congress, budget authority is then appropriated by the Appropriations Committee of the House.

In principle, committees with jurisdiction to authorize programs make policy decisions, while the Appropriations Committees decide on funding levels, limited to a program's authorized funding level, though the amount may be any amount less than the limit.

There is no obligation for either or both houses of Congress to pass a budget resolution. There may not be a resolution every year; if none is established, the previous year's resolution remains in force.

After both houses pass a budget resolution, selected Representatives and Senators negotiate a conference report to reconcile differences between the House and the Senate versions.

The conference report, in order to become binding, must be approved by both the House and Senate. A budget resolution is a concurrent resolution that binds "Congress," but is not a law, and so does not require the President's signature.


The budget resolution is not legally binding but serves as a blueprint for the actual appropriation process, and provides Congress with SOME control over the appropriation process.

All new discretionary spending requires authority through enactment of appropriation bills or continuing resolutions.


In general, funds for federal government programs must be authorized by an "authorizing committee" through enactment of legislation.


Then, through subsequent acts by Congress, budget authority is then appropriated by the Appropriations Committee of the House.

In principle,

committees with jurisdiction to authorize programs make policy decisions,

while the Appropriations Committees decide on funding levels, limited to a program's authorized funding level,

though the amount may be any amount less than the limit.


There are currently 12 appropriation bills that must be passed each fiscal year in order for continued discretionary spending to occur.

The subject of each appropriations bill corresponds to the jurisdiction of the respective House and Senate appropriation subcommittees: Discretionary spending requires an annual appropriation bill, which is a piece of legislation. Discretionary spending is typically set by the House and Senate Appropriations Committees and their various subcommittees. Since the spending is typically for a fixed period (usually a year), it is said to be under the discretion of the Congress. Some appropriations last for more than one year (see Appropriation bill for details). In particular, multi-year appropriations are often used for housing programs and military procurement program

Apparently you are confused and emotional....





lpnmajor wrote:
You can't even see the hole you're digging for yourself? Others might read these posts and remember your behavior in other instances. I am not at fault for your insecurities and you'll never convince anyone else that I am - or yourself either.

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Mar 24, 2015 19:37:29   #
dennisimoto Loc: Washington State (West)
 
POTUS is required to submit the initial budget to Congress by 2/1. The past 6 budgets submitted by him have been so bad that not a single legislator in his own party will endorse it. (He didn't have to submit in 2009, that was the end of the Bush budget.) We've been on continuing resolutions for his entire reign.

Good info Ve'hoe, thank you.

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Mar 24, 2015 20:58:45   #
Ve'hoe
 
Glad you liked it, apparently it is to be my last post,,, once the good nurse gets through with me,,, I am apparently toast.... man,,, I may need a proctologist to get the seat cushion out of my liberal brain case,,, ie sphincter.......


dennisimoto wrote:
POTUS is required to submit the initial budget to Congress by 2/1. The past 6 budgets submitted by him have been so bad that not a single legislator in his own party will endorse it. (He didn't have to submit in 2009, that was the end of the Bush budget.) We've been on continuing resolutions for his entire reign.

Good info Ve'hoe, thank you.

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Mar 24, 2015 22:02:15   #
Airforceone
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
So you respond with an anger driven, cursing rant,,,,
I think that solidifies in our minds whom we are dealing with....a liberal,,,h**e filled, angry, and reactionary... not hallmarks of an intelligent person...


Just responding to your h**e filled post directed at me. See this is how it works for the TP insult machine it's okay for you to insult but when you get it thrown back in your i***t face it's my h**e. Yes I am full of h**e at this TP trying to destroy this government with h**e r****m, your far right religious BS still trying to find the bible you read, I believe they call it a spin off of the Koran. You are controlled by the upper 1% of the wealthy in this country and they are praying on the stupid and you fall right in line.

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Mar 24, 2015 22:07:17   #
Airforceone
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
For the terminally stupid l*****ts:

Take all those deficits,,,, and add in all dems since Washington,,,, and you have to double it, to reach Barak Odummazzes,,,, deficit and debt..........


That why you are dumb turdnest.. not because the TP is mean,, it is simply because you are dumb..

All those deficits from republicans and all deficits since there were deficits are 1/2 of w


That's exactly what I am saying you post BS without researching what was attributed to Bush that was attached to the Obama deficit. It scares the hell out of me with people like you who take a number thrown out there by Fox and it becomes your reality. You probably never read a CBO report.

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Mar 24, 2015 22:18:09   #
Airforceone
 
dennisimoto wrote:
POTUS is required to submit the initial budget to Congress by 2/1. The past 6 budgets submitted by him have been so bad that not a single legislator in his own party will endorse it. (He didn't have to submit in 2009, that was the end of the Bush budget.) We've been on continuing resolutions for his entire reign.

Good info Ve'hoe, thank you.


You have no idea what a p**********l budget means. Not one p**********l budget has ever in the history of this country ever been passed not even your lord god Reagan. It's what the President wants along his ideological beliefs and the programs he wants funded. Then it goes to the house where it it is modified and that's when the trade offs start. So wake up.

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Mar 24, 2015 22:27:37   #
Airforceone
 
Trooper745 wrote:
Turdnest, you're still working on that degree in stupid, I see.


Read the budget and post your interpretation. Should make for some interesting reading

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Mar 24, 2015 22:37:58   #
Ve'hoe
 
And the Wealthy 1% 's are democrats, Islamics, and their foreign bosses....

See,,,, how it works here on OPP is: You actually have to deal with reality,,,, there is not any r****m in what I wrote, and you are still an i***t,,, because you "spun" what you wanted to out of the actual facts...instead of just repeating the facts you made them up,, or what you wanted them to be.

The liberal definition of h**e: Anyone who disagrees with my liberal h**e filled rhetoric, blaming, whining, and narrow minded point of view,,,I really h**e others freedom, their guns, and the ideas that "THEY" have free speech.

Nobody "makes" you h**e,,, you are a liberal,, it just bubbles forth...

Now, somebody, made you stupid,,, probably another liberal.
tdsrnest wrote:
Just responding to your h**e filled post directed at me. See this is how it works for the TP insult machine it's okay for you to insult but when you get it thrown back in your i***t face it's my h**e. Yes I am full of h**e at this TP trying to destroy this government with h**e r****m, your far right religious BS still trying to find the bible you read, I believe they call it a spin off of the Koran. You are controlled by the upper 1% of the wealthy in this country and they are praying on the stupid and you fall right in line.
Just responding to your h**e filled post directed ... (show quote)

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Mar 24, 2015 22:40:05   #
Ve'hoe
 
Yeah,,,, but I told you that,,,, you didnt know it..

Because if you actually KNEW, that, then your original rant that the Republicans Presidents were responsible for the debt and deficit,,, makes you look even dumber than I thought you were,, which is indeed a pretty low bar.



tdsrnest wrote:
You have no idea what a p**********l budget means. Not one p**********l budget has ever in the history of this country ever been passed not even your lord god Reagan. It's what the President wants along his ideological beliefs and the programs he wants funded. Then it goes to the house where it it is modified and that's when the trade offs start. So wake up.

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Mar 24, 2015 22:42:50   #
Ve'hoe
 
Well ,,,, the only thing I can say positive for you, is you have the good sense to not even read or believe your own bullsh-t,,,, because you have made really stupid errors and postulated hypothesis,,, that are not there......

So,,, keep on ignoring what you wrote, the stupidity of it, would befuddle you worse.



tdsrnest wrote:
That's exactly what I am saying you post BS without researching what was attributed to Bush that was attached to the Obama deficit. It scares the hell out of me with people like you who take a number thrown out there by Fox and it becomes your reality. You probably never read a CBO report.

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Mar 24, 2015 22:43:37   #
Ve'hoe
 
He did,,,, that was his interpretaton,,, your working on a thesis for an "i***t phd"


tdsrnest wrote:
Read the budget and post your interpretation. Should make for some interesting reading

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Mar 24, 2015 22:44:44   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
tdsrnest wrote:
I watched the Boehner news conference and decided on doing some more research which was simple it took some time but these are the facts. Now I know the TP folks with whine complain about more liberal lies. They will insult but not come up with there own facts.

Boehner made the statement 53 out of the last. 60 years this country has spent more than it takes in. Then he continued to blame Obama which is a typical TP talking point that Obama created a $18 trillion deficit. But as usual he was right about the last 60 years but failed to tell you what created those numbers. So in short I will tell you some facts left out by Boehner.

We all know that growing jobs and building a economic strength is the back bone of balancing the budget. Not wealthy tax cuts, inflated defense budget, and the total destruction of public education.

So since 1970
This period includes deficits under republican presidents
(5 of 6 years under Nixion we had deficits)
(The entire Ford administration Deficits)
(Every year under Reagan Deficits)
(Every year under Bush41 deficits)
(In 1998 under Clinton the US had a surplus of $100.5 Billion Clinton also had surpluses in 1999,2000, and 2001 during Bush 43 1st year because up to Novenmber Bush was still operating under the Clinton Budget till November of 2001. Which was the start of the Bush expenditures.)
(Bush 43 ran a deficit every year he was in office. The biggest cause of his deficit which carried over to the first two years of Obama was two expensive wars while he continued with his tax cuts for the wealthy that alone caused a $6.6 trillion loss in federal funds all unpaid for and borrowed money.

The CBO in 2009 to 2012 reported the US had large deficits as a direct consequence of the 2008 crash. But Boehner did not report this and either had Fox News.

In 2013 under Obama the deficit spending was half of what it was in 2012
Minus $691 billion versus $1.13 trillion.in October of 2014 treasury Department and the Office of Managment and Budget announced that the 2014 deficit as % of GDP reached it's smallest point since 2007 at $483 billion which ALS happens to be the smallest in 40 years. The deficit spending was a minus $492 billion.

Boehner does not explain anything of facts, to the surprise of nobody is flat out lying. But he knows the TP folks will believe these talking points and will post it all over the internet with no explanation. I find it very difficult to keep up with the GOPTP lies, and made up facts, which we experience as endless talking points the avoidance of facts is a TP disease.

But let's face it Boehner and Fox has a contingency of TP folks that will be happy to spread there lies and misinformation all over the internet.
I watched the Boehner news conference and decided ... (show quote)


Now for the rest of the story....Billy BOY Clinton placed "funds" into his so called report that made it appear there was "extra" when in fact there was no extra....there was still a national debt not paid and we still had a deficit. Go back and use some non liberal owned website to get to the real story.

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Mar 24, 2015 22:49:56   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
lpnmajor wrote:
You can't even see the hole you're digging for yourself? Others might read these posts and remember your behavior in other instances. I am not at fault for your insecurities and you'll never convince anyone else that I am - or yourself either.


Yep. You really do think you are a legend. Sadly, you will be very let down when you do find out there is no medal, no blue ribbon award for being number a number one slime ball. You get no awards for being a c****e liberal either.

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Mar 29, 2015 21:41:58   #
Airforceone
 
America Only wrote:
Now for the rest of the story....Billy BOY Clinton placed "funds" into his so called report that made it appear there was "extra" when in fact there was no extra....there was still a national debt not paid and we still had a deficit. Go back and use some non liberal owned website to get to the real story.


Here is the biggest piece of fraud by any president in history



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