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Mar 23, 2015 16:58:59   #
Airforceone
 
I watched the Boehner news conference and decided on doing some more research which was simple it took some time but these are the facts. Now I know the TP folks with whine complain about more liberal lies. They will insult but not come up with there own facts.

Boehner made the statement 53 out of the last. 60 years this country has spent more than it takes in. Then he continued to blame Obama which is a typical TP talking point that Obama created a $18 trillion deficit. But as usual he was right about the last 60 years but failed to tell you what created those numbers. So in short I will tell you some facts left out by Boehner.

We all know that growing jobs and building a economic strength is the back bone of balancing the budget. Not wealthy tax cuts, inflated defense budget, and the total destruction of public education.

So since 1970
This period includes deficits under republican presidents
(5 of 6 years under Nixion we had deficits)
(The entire Ford administration Deficits)
(Every year under Reagan Deficits)
(Every year under Bush41 deficits)
(In 1998 under Clinton the US had a surplus of $100.5 Billion Clinton also had surpluses in 1999,2000, and 2001 during Bush 43 1st year because up to Novenmber Bush was still operating under the Clinton Budget till November of 2001. Which was the start of the Bush expenditures.)
(Bush 43 ran a deficit every year he was in office. The biggest cause of his deficit which carried over to the first two years of Obama was two expensive wars while he continued with his tax cuts for the wealthy that alone caused a $6.6 trillion loss in federal funds all unpaid for and borrowed money.

The CBO in 2009 to 2012 reported the US had large deficits as a direct consequence of the 2008 crash. But Boehner did not report this and either had Fox News.

In 2013 under Obama the deficit spending was half of what it was in 2012
Minus $691 billion versus $1.13 trillion.in October of 2014 treasury Department and the Office of Managment and Budget announced that the 2014 deficit as % of GDP reached it's smallest point since 2007 at $483 billion which ALS happens to be the smallest in 40 years. The deficit spending was a minus $492 billion.

Boehner does not explain anything of facts, to the surprise of nobody is flat out lying. But he knows the TP folks will believe these talking points and will post it all over the internet with no explanation. I find it very difficult to keep up with the GOPTP lies, and made up facts, which we experience as endless talking points the avoidance of facts is a TP disease.

But let's face it Boehner and Fox has a contingency of TP folks that will be happy to spread there lies and misinformation all over the internet.

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Mar 23, 2015 17:04:31   #
Ve'hoe
 
For the terminally stupid l*****ts:

Take all those deficits,,,, and add in all dems since Washington,,,, and you have to double it, to reach Barak Odummazzes,,,, deficit and debt..........


That why you are dumb turdnest.. not because the TP is mean,, it is simply because you are dumb..

All those deficits from republicans and all deficits since there were deficits are 1/2 of w
tdsrnest wrote:
I watched the Boehner news conference and decided on doing some more research which was simple it took some time but these are the facts. Now I know the TP folks with whine complain about more liberal lies. They will insult but not come up with there own facts.

Boehner made the statement 53 out of the last. 60 years this country has spent more than it takes in. Then he continued to blame Obama which is a typical TP talking point that Obama created a $18 trillion deficit. But as usual he was right about the last 60 years but failed to tell you what created those numbers. So in short I will tell you some facts left out by Boehner.

We all know that growing jobs and building a economic strength is the back bone of balancing the budget. Not wealthy tax cuts, inflated defense budget, and the total destruction of public education.

So since 1970
This period includes deficits under republican presidents
(5 of 6 years under Nixion we had deficits)
(The entire Ford administration Deficits)
(Every year under Reagan Deficits)
(Every year under Bush41 deficits)
(In 1998 under Clinton the US had a surplus of $100.5 Billion Clinton also had surpluses in 1999,2000, and 2001 during Bush 43 1st year because up to Novenmber Bush was still operating under the Clinton Budget till November of 2001. Which was the start of the Bush expenditures.)
(Bush 43 ran a deficit every year he was in office. The biggest cause of his deficit which carried over to the first two years of Obama was two expensive wars while he continued with his tax cuts for the wealthy that alone caused a $6.6 trillion loss in federal funds all unpaid for and borrowed money.

The CBO in 2009 to 2012 reported the US had large deficits as a direct consequence of the 2008 crash. But Boehner did not report this and either had Fox News.

In 2013 under Obama the deficit spending was half of what it was in 2012
Minus $691 billion versus $1.13 trillion.in October of 2014 treasury Department and the Office of Managment and Budget announced that the 2014 deficit as % of GDP reached it's smallest point since 2007 at $483 billion which ALS happens to be the smallest in 40 years. The deficit spending was a minus $492 billion.

Boehner does not explain anything of facts, to the surprise of nobody is flat out lying. But he knows the TP folks will believe these talking points and will post it all over the internet with no explanation. I find it very difficult to keep up with the GOPTP lies, and made up facts, which we experience as endless talking points the avoidance of facts is a TP disease.

But let's face it Boehner and Fox has a contingency of TP folks that will be happy to spread there lies and misinformation all over the internet.
I watched the Boehner news conference and decided ... (show quote)

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Mar 23, 2015 17:12:04   #
Trooper745 Loc: Carolina
 
tdsrnest wrote:
I watched the Boehner news conference and decided on doing some more research which was simple it took some time but these are the facts. Now I know the TP folks with whine complain about more liberal lies. They will insult but not come up with there own facts.

Boehner made the statement 53 out of the last. 60 years this country has spent more than it takes in. Then he continued to blame Obama which is a typical TP talking point that Obama created a $18 trillion deficit. But as usual he was right about the last 60 years but failed to tell you what created those numbers. So in short I will tell you some facts left out by Boehner.

We all know that growing jobs and building a economic strength is the back bone of balancing the budget. Not wealthy tax cuts, inflated defense budget, and the total destruction of public education.

So since 1970
This period includes deficits under republican presidents
(5 of 6 years under Nixion we had deficits)
(The entire Ford administration Deficits)
(Every year under Reagan Deficits)
(Every year under Bush41 deficits)
(In 1998 under Clinton the US had a surplus of $100.5 Billion Clinton also had surpluses in 1999,2000, and 2001 during Bush 43 1st year because up to Novenmber Bush was still operating under the Clinton Budget till November of 2001. Which was the start of the Bush expenditures.)
(Bush 43 ran a deficit every year he was in office. The biggest cause of his deficit which carried over to the first two years of Obama was two expensive wars while he continued with his tax cuts for the wealthy that alone caused a $6.6 trillion loss in federal funds all unpaid for and borrowed money.

The CBO in 2009 to 2012 reported the US had large deficits as a direct consequence of the 2008 crash. But Boehner did not report this and either had Fox News.

In 2013 under Obama the deficit spending was half of what it was in 2012
Minus $691 billion versus $1.13 trillion.in October of 2014 treasury Department and the Office of Managment and Budget announced that the 2014 deficit as % of GDP reached it's smallest point since 2007 at $483 billion which ALS happens to be the smallest in 40 years. The deficit spending was a minus $492 billion.

Boehner does not explain anything of facts, to the surprise of nobody is flat out lying. But he knows the TP folks will believe these talking points and will post it all over the internet with no explanation. I find it very difficult to keep up with the GOPTP lies, and made up facts, which we experience as endless talking points the avoidance of facts is a TP disease.

But let's face it Boehner and Fox has a contingency of TP folks that will be happy to spread there lies and misinformation all over the internet.
I watched the Boehner news conference and decided ... (show quote)


Turdnest, you're still working on that degree in stupid, I see.

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Mar 23, 2015 17:24:30   #
Ve'hoe
 
I thought he was on a thesis,,, of ridiculosity
Trooper745 wrote:
Turdnest, you're still working on that degree in stupid, I see.

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Mar 23, 2015 17:55:41   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
I thought he was on a thesis,,, of ridiculosity









"You can be stupid most of the time and attribute it to stupidity, but to be wrong 100% of the time there has to be an agenda" [Churchill???]. And "it's not that liberals don't know anything, it's what [they] know is all wrong" [Reagan???]. Perhaps I ad-libbed a bit on the wording but "WE" all know what I mean!!!

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Mar 23, 2015 19:06:26   #
Connie421
 
There is a very distinct difference between a budget deficit and national debt. I think this discussion is confusing the two. There have been many times when spending has exceeded the budget, or spending plan. In fact, it happens ALL the time. However, the national debt has grown astronomically in the past few years, even exceeding other times of irresponsible growth. We also have the most income for government (taxes) that we have ever had.

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Mar 23, 2015 19:54:28   #
Airforceone
 
Trooper745 wrote:
Turdnest, you're still working on that degree in stupid, I see.


It must be me you fu$king i***ts just believe every GD thing Fox News tells you. How about looking it up do the GD research you Fu$king Dick sucking Ass hole. I spend all this time on this research post my finding and dick sucking TP netwit and that's all you have to say. Your nothing but scum that lives in a bubble of Fox News BS. You Fu $king moron

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Mar 23, 2015 19:56:42   #
Airforceone
 
Connie421 wrote:
There is a very distinct difference between a budget deficit and national debt. I think this discussion is confusing the two. There have been many times when spending has exceeded the budget, or spending plan. In fact, it happens ALL the time. However, the national debt has grown astronomically in the past few years, even exceeding other times of irresponsible growth. We also have the most income for government (taxes) that we have ever had.


That's because the population increase that government funds increase.

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Mar 23, 2015 22:48:54   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
tdsrnest wrote:
That's because the population increase that government funds increase.


WOW!.....ok.....

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Mar 24, 2015 07:38:15   #
Ve'hoe
 
So you respond with an anger driven, cursing rant,,,,
I think that solidifies in our minds whom we are dealing with....a liberal,,,h**e filled, angry, and reactionary... not hallmarks of an intelligent person...

tdsrnest wrote:
It must be me you fu$king i***ts just believe every GD thing Fox News tells you. How about looking it up do the GD research you Fu$king Dick sucking Ass hole. I spend all this time on this research post my finding and dick sucking TP netwit and that's all you have to say. Your nothing but scum that lives in a bubble of Fox News BS. You Fu $king moron

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Mar 24, 2015 07:43:54   #
Workinman Loc: Bayou Pigeon
 
tdsrnest wrote:
That's because the population increase that government funds increase.


Earth to Terdy...Earth to Turdy.....

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Mar 24, 2015 10:28:35   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
For the terminally stupid l*****ts:

Take all those deficits,,,, and add in all dems since Washington,,,, and you have to double it, to reach Barak Odummazzes,,,, deficit and debt..........


That why you are dumb turdnest.. not because the TP is mean,, it is simply because you are dumb..

All those deficits from republicans and all deficits since there were deficits are 1/2 of w


That, actually, is totally wrong. It is sometimes difficult to tell where a President is responsible for deficit spending and where the Congress is responsible, because we lump the numbers all together. It is IMPOSSIBLE to differentiate between political philosophies, as to which is responsible for over spending.

Budgets are merely political tools and are only suggestions anyway. No money is spent, anywhere or for any reason, without Congressional approval. So, ultimately, the blame must stay with the Congress, which tends to change somewhat every two years. Suffice it to say, arguing over THESE numbers is a fools game, as one would have to break the expenditures down into two year increments, to see what majority passed what spending authorizations.

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Mar 24, 2015 10:51:25   #
Ve'hoe
 
No, it is not "totally" wrong,, it is a generalization, since the administration is the quintessential element in producing his budget.... congressional approval is not what is done it is allocation,,,, not approval,,, they approve or disprove the "budget" they do not "line item" approve,,,, they sign it and the allocations flow out under appropriation data,,,, been there done it from both sides,,

If it is impossible to determine, then they all share blame equally!!???!! Yes???

Then it is ludicris (and it is a lie) for obama to claim that anything is or was George Bushs fault,,, and that is a pillar of his administrations policy for responsibility..

You are wrong,,, and arguing a "fools game" when you dont actually know the game could be consdiered ... what??


lpnmajor wrote:
That, actually, is totally wrong. It is sometimes difficult to tell where a President is responsible for deficit spending and where the Congress is responsible, because we lump the numbers all together. It is IMPOSSIBLE to differentiate between political philosophies, as to which is responsible for over spending.

Budgets are merely political tools and are only suggestions anyway. No money is spent, anywhere or for any reason, without Congressional approval. So, ultimately, the blame must stay with the Congress, which tends to change somewhat every two years. Suffice it to say, arguing over THESE numbers is a fools game, as one would have to break the expenditures down into two year increments, to see what majority passed what spending authorizations.
That, actually, is totally wrong. It is sometimes ... (show quote)

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Mar 24, 2015 11:00:52   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
No, it is not "totally" wrong,, it is a generalization, since the administration is the quintessential element in producing his budget.... congressional approval is not what is done it is allocation,,,, not approval,,, they approve or disprove the "budget" they do not "line item" approve,,,, they sign it and the allocations flow out under appropriation data,,,, been there done it from both sides,,

If it is impossible to determine, then they all share blame equally!!???!! Yes???

Then it is ludicris (and it is a lie) for obama to claim that anything is or was George Bushs fault,,, and that is a pillar of his administrations policy for responsibility..

You are wrong,,, and arguing a "fools game" when you dont actually know the game could be consdiered ... what??
No, it is not "totally" wrong,, it is a ... (show quote)


Do you even know the difference between "approval", "allocation" and what a spending bill is? I strongly suggest that you look some things up, BEFORE you start trying to point out someone's "ignorance" - so far, it has backfired on you.

Bringing an emotional argument is all well and good, but you need to keep it emotional. Trying to add facts to it, just messes you up and ruins your argument. That goes for everybody, not just you. Running facts through an emotional filter, inevitably taints the facts, making them inaccurate and totally unreliable.

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Mar 24, 2015 11:04:16   #
Ve'hoe
 
Can you read????


I did budgets for the AF,,, yes, I know what an allocation and approval is,,,,

maybe you should actually know something before you open your mouth... but past performance doesnt indicate you ever will,,,

Or is it, that you think as a major and lpn,,, you are the epitome of knowledge,,, because the facts dont prove that especially in your case...


lpnmajor wrote:
Do you even know the difference between "approval", "allocation" and what a spending bill is? I strongly suggest that you look some things up, BEFORE you start trying to point out someone's "ignorance" - so far, it has backfired on you.

Bringing an emotional argument is all well and good, but you need to keep it emotional. Trying to add facts to it, just messes you up and ruins your argument. That goes for everybody, not just you. Running facts through an emotional filter, inevitably taints the facts, making them inaccurate and totally unreliable.
Do you even know the difference between "appr... (show quote)

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