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Mar 12, 2015 11:45:18   #
KHH1
 
Have Obama and GOP hit rock bottom?
Tensions between the White House and Congressional Republicans have reached an all-time low, say Republicans, most of whom have not met with President Obama in years.
"I would say it's as bad, or worse than I've ever seen it," Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman John McCain, R-Ariz., told the Washington Examiner on Wednesday.
The acrimonious relationship has culminated in mutually-infuriating agendas. This week Republicans sent a letter to Iranian leaders warning them against negotiating a nuclear deal with Obama. Obama has openly mocked the GOP and promised to circumvent Republicans by using executive authority.
McCain said Obama's relationship with Republicans worsened when the president began using his executive authority to move significant parts of his agenda that Republicans oppose.
Obama's directive to allow millions of i*****l i*******ts to obtain work permits and some federal benefits, new Environmental Protection Agency regulations and most recently, a proposed nuclear deal with Iran, all without congressional approval, skirt the language of the Constitution, which grants Congress the sole authority to approve treaties, make laws and regulations, and create naturalization procedures.
"I think the president is disinterested in Congress generally and Republicans specifically," Said Sen. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., who is a former House Majority Leader. "And when you continue day in and day out, to act like the Congress doesn't matter, the Congress eventually is going to do things that get your attention."
On Monday, 47 Senate Republicans sent an open letter to Iranian leaders, warning that if the Senate does not sign off on a developing nuclear deal, the agreement won't last beyond the Obama Administration.
The move infuriated the White House and led to Obama suggesting sarcastically that Republicans had aligned themselves with Iranian hard-liners.
With the gulf between the two sides now wider than ever, Republicans are planning legislation that would require Congress to approve of the nuclear deal with Iran.
Other Republicans are looking for ways to thwart the confirmation of Loretta Lynch, Obama's nominee to succeed Attorney General Eric Holder.
Once considered on the fast track to confirmation, Lynch has been stalled by Senate Republicans for weeks, in part because of her declared support for Obama's executive action granting work permits and federal benefits to millions of i*****l i*******ts.
She's likely to be confirmed next week, thanks to new rules requiring only a simple majority to confirm most nominations, but she'll clear the Senate with a shrinking number of Republicans supporting her because they believe she will help further tilt power to the president and away from Congress.
"We have a right not to confirm somebody who is going to put a bullet in our heart — the Congress's heart," Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., said. "I'm not aware of a greater erosion of congressional power in which Congress says if you are unlawful in the country you cannot be employed, and the president says, change that law and Congress says no, and then the president gives Social Security numbers, a photo ID, Medicare benefits to people who are here unlawfully."
Aside from a meeting between Obama and GOP leaders in early November, 2014 and once again in January there has been almost no communication between the Republican leaders and the president, even though the Republicans now control both the House and Senate.
House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, spoke with Obama on the phone in February, a top aide told the Washington Examiner.
But for other key Republicans, including McCain, who now heads the Senate Armed Services Committee, it's been years since Obama has reached out to them.
"I've been here a long time and I think it's an estranged relationship," Sen Richard Shelby, R-Ala., who arrived in the Senate in 1987 and switched from the Democratic party in 1994, said. "I've never seen it like this before. The president is going down one road and we think he's going down the wrong road. I think the president doesn't have much going on as well as a dialogue with Republicans in the Senate or House. And that's not good."

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Mar 12, 2015 11:50:32   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
KHH1 wrote:
Have Obama and GOP hit rock bottom?
Tensions between the White House and Congressional Republicans have reached an all-time low, say Republicans, most of whom have not met with President Obama in years.
"I would say it's as bad, or worse than I've ever seen it," Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman John McCain, R-Ariz., told the Washington Examiner on Wednesday.
The acrimonious relationship has culminated in mutually-infuriating agendas. This week Republicans sent a letter to Iranian leaders warning them against negotiating a nuclear deal with Obama. Obama has openly mocked the GOP and promised to circumvent Republicans by using executive authority.
McCain said Obama's relationship with Republicans worsened when the president began using his executive authority to move significant parts of his agenda that Republicans oppose.
Obama's directive to allow millions of i*****l i*******ts to obtain work permits and some federal benefits, new Environmental Protection Agency regulations and most recently, a proposed nuclear deal with Iran, all without congressional approval, skirt the language of the Constitution, which grants Congress the sole authority to approve treaties, make laws and regulations, and create naturalization procedures.
"I think the president is disinterested in Congress generally and Republicans specifically," Said Sen. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., who is a former House Majority Leader. "And when you continue day in and day out, to act like the Congress doesn't matter, the Congress eventually is going to do things that get your attention."
On Monday, 47 Senate Republicans sent an open letter to Iranian leaders, warning that if the Senate does not sign off on a developing nuclear deal, the agreement won't last beyond the Obama Administration.
The move infuriated the White House and led to Obama suggesting sarcastically that Republicans had aligned themselves with Iranian hard-liners.
With the gulf between the two sides now wider than ever, Republicans are planning legislation that would require Congress to approve of the nuclear deal with Iran.
Other Republicans are looking for ways to thwart the confirmation of Loretta Lynch, Obama's nominee to succeed Attorney General Eric Holder.
Once considered on the fast track to confirmation, Lynch has been stalled by Senate Republicans for weeks, in part because of her declared support for Obama's executive action granting work permits and federal benefits to millions of i*****l i*******ts.
She's likely to be confirmed next week, thanks to new rules requiring only a simple majority to confirm most nominations, but she'll clear the Senate with a shrinking number of Republicans supporting her because they believe she will help further tilt power to the president and away from Congress.
"We have a right not to confirm somebody who is going to put a bullet in our heart — the Congress's heart," Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., said. "I'm not aware of a greater erosion of congressional power in which Congress says if you are unlawful in the country you cannot be employed, and the president says, change that law and Congress says no, and then the president gives Social Security numbers, a photo ID, Medicare benefits to people who are here unlawfully."
Aside from a meeting between Obama and GOP leaders in early November, 2014 and once again in January there has been almost no communication between the Republican leaders and the president, even though the Republicans now control both the House and Senate.
House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, spoke with Obama on the phone in February, a top aide told the Washington Examiner.
But for other key Republicans, including McCain, who now heads the Senate Armed Services Committee, it's been years since Obama has reached out to them.
"I've been here a long time and I think it's an estranged relationship," Sen Richard Shelby, R-Ala., who arrived in the Senate in 1987 and switched from the Democratic party in 1994, said. "I've never seen it like this before. The president is going down one road and we think he's going down the wrong road. I think the president doesn't have much going on as well as a dialogue with Republicans in the Senate or House. And that's not good."
Have Obama and GOP hit rock bottom? br Tensions be... (show quote)


Obama had minimal contact with Democrats in Congress -

Meanwhile, the "you lie" and the Obamacare repeal v**es were done in the House, not the Senate.

Finally, the Constitution of the USA does not allow for hurt feelings as an excuse to ignore the elected representatives in Congress any more than it allows for hurt feelings as an excuse to ignore the executive branch.

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Mar 12, 2015 12:17:31   #
KHH1
 
Dave wrote:
Obama had minimal contact with Democrats in Congress -

Meanwhile, the "you lie" and the Obamacare repeal v**es were done in the House, not the Senate.

Finally, the Constitution of the USA does not allow for hurt feelings as an excuse to ignore the elected representatives in Congress any more than it allows for hurt feelings as an excuse to ignore the executive branch.


Would you people quit talking abut feelings? Did anyone mature emotionally in here? Only children and females really should give a damn about their feelings...grown azz men are supposed to shelve that BS and accomplish things....It is about principle...the man has a job to do and does not have time for r****m, bigotry and foolish obstructionist games...everyone talks about what he should do but gives a do-nothing Congress as pass...just like in OPP....hold different people to task differently

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Mar 12, 2015 12:58:00   #
Antisocialist Loc: Florida
 
KHH1 wrote:
grown azz men are supposed to shelve that BS and accomplish things


Well that explains why Mr. "I refuse to negotiate" can't accomplish anything.

He needs to take a major lesson in the art of compromise from Bill Clinton, who I view as one of the best on that subject. Even Clinton has called O'skidmark an amateur.

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Mar 12, 2015 13:18:41   #
KHH1
 
Antisocialist wrote:
Well that explains why Mr. "I refuse to negotiate" can't accomplish anything.

He needs to take a major lesson in the art of compromise from Bill Clinton, who I view as one of the best on that subject. Even Clinton has called O'skidmark an amateur.


Nope...he is not running a conservative Presidency and I do not blame him.....because when it fails like it did for W, he will be the fall guy...ain't happening...and the name is President Barack H. Obama....

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Mar 12, 2015 13:21:52   #
KHH1
 
Antisocialist wrote:
Well that explains why Mr. "I refuse to negotiate" can't accomplish anything.

He needs to take a major lesson in the art of compromise from Bill Clinton, who I view as one of the best on that subject. Even Clinton has called O'skidmark an amateur.


See you people need to realize that leaders do not care what people think of them...followers do....the American economy is leading the world right now and had the strongest recovery....Dems are happy with him and that is who v**ed him in...none of you people talking s**t v**ed for him in the first place so why should he bend to your agenda?.....

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Mar 12, 2015 13:56:36   #
Antisocialist Loc: Florida
 
KHH1 wrote:
See you people need to realize that leaders do not care what people think of them...followers do....the American economy is leading the world right now and had the strongest recovery....Dems are happy with him and that is who v**ed him in...none of you people talking s**t v**ed for him in the first place so why should he bend to your agenda?.....


You are completely wrong about our economy; O'skidmark is running it into the ground.

With the average debt O's**tstain is adding monthly to the National Debt, 250,000 new jobs need to be created each and every month to generate enough new Treasury revenue to pay for the interest, and only the interest, O'dickwad is adding to service the National debt each and every month. After 6 long years with the skidmark at the helm, our economy only recently began averaging 250,000 new jobs a month. When interest rates hit 4%, the number of new jobs we will need to cover the interest on the National debt will be about 400,000 jobs a month. Those new jobs will only add enough new revenue to service the debt, not pay any bills. You think that is wise? I don't.

You don't understand how threatening our debt is and neither does O'skidmark. When interest rates hit 4%, American taxpayers will be paying $1 trillion a year in interest just to service the National Debt. $600 billion a year will be attributed to just 1 president; O'numbnuts.

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Mar 12, 2015 14:08:48   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
KHH1 wrote:
Would you people quit talking abut feelings? Did anyone mature emotionally in here? Only children and females really should give a damn about their feelings...grown azz men are supposed to shelve that BS and accomplish things....It is about principle...the man has a job to do and does not have time for r****m, bigotry and foolish obstructionist games...everyone talks about what he should do but gives a do-nothing Congress as pass...just like in OPP....hold different people to task differently


How about the principle of acquiring the advise and consent of the Senate - or do you allow for Obama to pick and choose principles regardless of constitutional ones.

..as to you introducing r****m and bigotry - that sure sounds like emotion

as to obstruction - isn't it the responsibility of elected officials to obstruct that which they think harms the nation - or do you prefer a single executive deciding what is or is not in the best interest of the country?

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Mar 12, 2015 14:10:06   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
KHH1 wrote:
Nope...he is not running a conservative Presidency and I do not blame him.....because when it fails like it did for W, he will be the fall guy...ain't happening...and the name is President Barack H. Obama....


I like for you to define what w did that you consider conservative

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Mar 12, 2015 14:10:44   #
KHH1
 
Antisocialist wrote:
You are completely wrong about our economy; O'skidmark is running it into the ground.

With the average debt O's**tstain is adding monthly to the National Debt, 250,000 new jobs need to be created each and every month to generate enough new Treasury revenue to pay for the interest, and only the interest, O'dickwad is adding to service the National debt each and every month. After 6 long years with the skidmark at the helm, our economy only recently began averaging 250,000 new jobs a month. When interest rates hit 4%, the number of new jobs we will need to cover the interest on the National debt will be about 400,000 jobs a month. Those new jobs will only add enough new revenue to service the debt, not pay any bills. You think that is wise? I don't.

You don't understand how threatening our debt is and neither does O'skidmark. When interest rates hit 4%, American taxpayers will be paying $1 trillion a year in interest just to service the National Debt. $600 billion a year will be attributed to just 1 president; O'numbnuts.
You are completely wrong about our economy; O'skid... (show quote)


Since you are name calling unprovoked like a little b***h i'll just disegard that post....you need to learn communication sk**ls...so tired of ignorant azz fools.......

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Mar 12, 2015 14:12:02   #
KHH1
 
Dave wrote:
I like for you to define what w did that you consider conservative


.....he started a unnecessary war to feed the military industrial complex....that is real comnservative....

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Mar 12, 2015 14:12:42   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
KHH1 wrote:
See you people need to realize that leaders do not care what people think of them...followers do....the American economy is leading the world right now and had the strongest recovery....Dems are happy with him and that is who v**ed him in...none of you people talking s**t v**ed for him in the first place so why should he bend to your agenda?.....


By your definition of leaders, Mao and Stalin and Castro et al are real leaders -

As to v****g, Congress too was elected -

As to "our" agenda - if you mean the agenda of those who were elected to Congress, the answer to why he should bend (called compromise in some places) is something called the Constitution.

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Mar 12, 2015 14:14:25   #
MrEd Loc: Georgia
 
KHH1 wrote:
See you people need to realize that leaders do not care what people think of them...followers do....the American economy is leading the world right now and had the strongest recovery....Dems are happy with him and that is who v**ed him in...none of you people talking s**t v**ed for him in the first place so why should he bend to your agenda?.....




It's not OUR agenda we are talking about, it is the agenda of our Constitution that is supposed to be the law of the land. You know, that little piece of paper that has all those funny words on it that you do not understand? The one that obama is constantly ignoring.

The President does NOT have the authority to approve any treaty by himself, Congress does that. The President can get a treaty make between our country and another, but it is Congress that approves it, not the President. Until that treaty is approved, it is not binding on this country or our government.

Now there are some treaties that fly through Congress and get their approval fast and are made law, but some are rejected and others are changed before they are approved. That is what Congress is for, or one of them anyway.

For any President to sign and pretend that it is law is violating the Constitution and by-passing Congress and it is NOT law no matter what the President says.

Unless Hillary is our next President, it will get thrown out as soon as they are sworn in to office. Our Congress does not like this deal and it is not good for us OR the country. It sure as hell is not good for Israel and will only get a bunch of people k**led, but as long as they are not muslims, obama does not care and especially if it is Israel that gets wiped out he won't care.

Now you may not like Israel and that is your right, but to want them all k**led is not even in your agenda is it?? I can't see any people that are so bad that every one of them should be wiped out, but that is what Iran wants to do to the Jews.

Iran may not be able to send a nuke all the way here with anything they have now, but they may in 10 years or so. But even if they don't get that, they can still smuggle a nuke into our country and set it off in say NYC. How many people are you willing to k**l here in this country just to give obama his stupid treaty? You have to remember one thing. That border is still wide open and more then just Mexicans are coming across it.

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Mar 12, 2015 14:14:43   #
KHH1
 
Dave wrote:
How about the principle of acquiring the advise and consent of the Senate - or do you allow for Obama to pick and choose principles regardless of constitutional ones.

..as to you introducing r****m and bigotry - that sure sounds like emotion

as to obstruction - isn't it the responsibility of elected officials to obstruct that which they think harms the nation - or do you prefer a single executive deciding what is or is not in the best interest of the country?


I don't give a damn what it sounds like...that is fact not emotion....obstruction my azz......they had it in for Pres. Obama as soon as they experienced "guess who's coming to dinner?" at the White House....obstruction and straight disrespect for the office of POTUS....

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Mar 12, 2015 14:18:17   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
KHH1 wrote:
.....he started a unnecessary war to feed the military industrial complex....that is real comnservative....


Well, I'm guessing you thought those Dem's who were all for it were also conservatives - and surely the Obama surge in Afghanistan came from his inner conservative self.

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