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Feb 26, 2015 17:59:25   #
Workinman Loc: Bayou Pigeon
 
pafret wrote:
The news today is filled with references to Pres. Obama's defiance of a Federal Court Order delaying implementation of i*****l a***n amnesty. Given that refusal to obey a lawful court order is illegal and a crime, who arrests a sitting president for committing such a crime.

From my research so far, the Sargeant at Arms of the Senate is empowered to arrest the president but it is unclear whether this pertains to violations of Senate rules or for any crime in general.

There has been speculation that the deaths of Federal employees at the Navy Yard were in retaliation for an attempt by NCIS to arrest the president for treasonous activities. This may be a crackpot conspiracy theory but is there any t***h to NCIS being designated as the policing agency with the authority to investigate terrorism, treason etc.?

Other sites point to the Joint Chiefs of Staff having the authority to order the presidents arrest.

I am dubious about the Military having such responsibility because our government has been framed deliberately to subject the Military to civilian control. Similarly NCIS and any of the other federal policing agencies are quasi military and were created long after our form of government was established.

The Congress can impeach the president but this is not the same as arresting him for criminal activity.

Can it be done? If so, by whom? What basis in law is there for such an action?
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It would be justified but will never happen..bottom line every city in this country would burn... Fergeson was just a test site but proved that with the r****t rhetoric welfare b****s will mobilize and r**t to protect their meal ticket period...that's why their will be no impeachment....

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Feb 26, 2015 18:17:53   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
PoppaGringo wrote:
Let us wait and see what occurs after his vacating the White House.


if he does

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Feb 26, 2015 18:23:49   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
alex wrote:
if he does


has anyone seen Searching? her Lamas are out

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Feb 26, 2015 19:37:25   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
MrEd wrote:
I h**e to say this, but a sitting President cannot be arrested. He has to be impeached first and then arrested. A Congressman cannot be arrested while on the floor of Congress, but may be arrested after leaving it. If the military went in and arrested him, it would be called a c**p, not an arrest. I know that is not what most people want to hear, but if we are going to have a Constitution, then we also must go by it too. Once obama is out of office then you can hold a trial for wh**ever you have on him and do wh**ever you want, but he cannot be arrested while in office.
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Mr Ed;
You and Blade Runner are the only two responses addressing my inquiry so far. I used obama as an example, my opinion of him is extremely negative but I really am interested in the mechanisms available. I tend to agree with you that it is impeachment, then arrest. The question still remains, who does the arresting? Is it the Attorney General's responsibility or are there other entities empowered to arrest?

Our current situation with Eric Holder's partisan control of the Justice department and similar situations with other Presidents raises doubts for me as to whether it can be done at all. Gerald Ford immediately issued a pardon to Nixon for any crimes he may have committed. Is this the norm? If those who should be prosecuting are beholden politically or in any other way, what restraint is there on any president's becoming a dictator?

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Feb 26, 2015 20:20:58   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
pafret wrote:
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Mr Ed;
You and Blade Runner are the only two responses addressing my inquiry so far. I used obama as an example, my opinion of him is extremely negative but I really am interested in the mechanisms available. I tend to agree with you that it is impeachment, then arrest. The question still remains, who does the arresting? Is it the Attorney General's responsibility or are there other entities empowered to arrest?

Our current situation with Eric Holder's partisan control of the Justice department and similar situations with other Presidents raises doubts for me as to whether it can be done at all. Gerald Ford immediately issued a pardon to Nixon for any crimes he may have committed. Is this the norm? If those who should be prosecuting are beholden politically or in any other way, what restraint is there on any president's becoming a dictator?
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The way it works, as I understand it, is articles of impeachment originate in the House of Representatives. This is analogous to an indictment. If the a majority in the House v**es to impeach, then the Senate tries the case. If the Senate finds him guilty, the president is simply removed from office, and is replaced by the VP.

The only restraint at present on a president becoming a dictator is congress. If both houses were acting on behalf of the American people and doing their jobs as prescribed by the Constitution, they could thwart the president's unlawful actions. Unfortunately, the leadership of both houses today have pretty much surrendered their Constitutional powers to do much of anything to stop Obama. Last year, Boehner took "impeachment off the table", Senate Majority leader, McConnell, has sold us out, and Obama is slowly but surely stacking SCOTUS with l*****t activist justices.

Bottom line is there is no one with the cajones in congress, or anywhere else for that matter, to stop him. So, we are pretty much on our own.

The one critical thing to keep in mind is that the liberal ideology--socialism, Marxism, etc.,--is inherently suicidal. It has a self-destruct mechanism embedded in its doctrine. History has proven this time and again. Most unfortunately the end game is never pretty. Things will only grow more ugly until everything comes apart.

Having said all this, there are other powerful forces at work in this troubled world that could, with devastating effect, throw a major monkey wrench in Obama's grandiose plans. Seems to have happened to the best of the tyrants throughout history.

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Feb 26, 2015 20:57:41   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
alex wrote:
has anyone seen Searching? her Lamas are out


I don't know. I was also curious as to her whereabouts. I don't know if she is even aware of their escape. Fortunately, they have been recaptured.

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Feb 27, 2015 08:57:19   #
Paulman
 
As stated by others the constitutional procedures are outlined and must be followed. Their are others within Congress that are not doing their sworn duty and they are the first we need to arrest. They can be arrested if not by law inforcement than buy the people. A citizens arrest Is legal and in my opinion warranted. Those who have strayed from the constition with their v****g powers within our government are trators. We need to clean house!

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Feb 27, 2015 21:10:54   #
angery american Loc: Georgia
 
Haughty Lib wrote:
There's no law broken therefore no arrest.


I thought it was against the law to crap in public....? Ever time Obama opens his mouth he takes a crap in public...! I wonder how much it will cost to get the White House fumigated when he leaves office...It probably smells like the Ghetto.....or like a pot house... :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Feb 27, 2015 22:12:46   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
angery american wrote:
I thought it was against the law to crap in public....? Ever time Obama opens his mouth he takes a crap in public...! I wonder how much it will cost to get the White House fumigated when he leaves office...It probably smells like the Ghetto.....or like a pot house... :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:


Well, pot is now legal in D.C., but not on federal property, so he is still, once again, breaking the law by using it in the White House.

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Feb 28, 2015 19:44:20   #
dolphins
 
pafret wrote:
The news today is filled with references to Pres. Obama's defiance of a Federal Court Order delaying implementation of i*****l a***n amnesty. Given that refusal to obey a lawful court order is illegal and a crime, who arrests a sitting president for committing such a crime.

From my research so far, the Sargeant at Arms of the Senate is empowered to arrest the president but it is unclear whether this pertains to violations of Senate rules or for any crime in general.

There has been speculation that the deaths of Federal employees at the Navy Yard were in retaliation for an attempt by NCIS to arrest the president for treasonous activities. This may be a crackpot conspiracy theory but is there any t***h to NCIS being designated as the policing agency with the authority to investigate terrorism, treason etc.?

Other sites point to the Joint Chiefs of Staff having the authority to order the presidents arrest.

I am dubious about the Military having such responsibility because our government has been framed deliberately to subject the Military to civilian control. Similarly NCIS and any of the other federal policing agencies are quasi military and were created long after our form of government was established.

The Congress can impeach the president but this is not the same as arresting him for criminal activity.

Can it be done? If so, by whom? What basis in law is there for such an action?
The news today is filled with references to Pres. ... (show quote)


History shows presidents being impeached for treasonous acts Against "America, Constitution, and its people. ask yourself how would President A. Jackson handle this?

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