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Feb 26, 2015 15:39:49   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
The news today is filled with references to Pres. Obama's defiance of a Federal Court Order delaying implementation of i*****l a***n amnesty. Given that refusal to obey a lawful court order is illegal and a crime, who arrests a sitting president for committing such a crime.

From my research so far, the Sargeant at Arms of the Senate is empowered to arrest the president but it is unclear whether this pertains to violations of Senate rules or for any crime in general.

There has been speculation that the deaths of Federal employees at the Navy Yard were in retaliation for an attempt by NCIS to arrest the president for treasonous activities. This may be a crackpot conspiracy theory but is there any t***h to NCIS being designated as the policing agency with the authority to investigate terrorism, treason etc.?

Other sites point to the Joint Chiefs of Staff having the authority to order the presidents arrest.

I am dubious about the Military having such responsibility because our government has been framed deliberately to subject the Military to civilian control. Similarly NCIS and any of the other federal policing agencies are quasi military and were created long after our form of government was established.

The Congress can impeach the president but this is not the same as arresting him for criminal activity.

Can it be done? If so, by whom? What basis in law is there for such an action?

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Feb 26, 2015 15:59:44   #
moldyoldy
 
The news today is filled with references to Pres. Obama's defiance of a Federal Court Order delaying implementation of i*****l a***n amnesty. Given that refusal to obey a lawful court order is illegal and a crime, who arrests a sitting president for committing such a crime.


OK, what does he have to do to comply? Nothing!!! There is no crime, just like all the other charges, imagined by right wing nuts.

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Feb 26, 2015 16:29:57   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
pafret wrote:
The news today is filled with references to Pres. Obama's defiance of a Federal Court Order delaying implementation of i*****l a***n amnesty. Given that refusal to obey a lawful court order is illegal and a crime, who arrests a sitting president for committing such a crime.

From my research so far, the Sargeant at Arms of the Senate is empowered to arrest the president but it is unclear whether this pertains to violations of Senate rules or for any crime in general.

There has been speculation that the deaths of Federal employees at the Navy Yard were in retaliation for an attempt by NCIS to arrest the president for treasonous activities. This may be a crackpot conspiracy theory but is there any t***h to NCIS being designated as the policing agency with the authority to investigate terrorism, treason etc.?

Other sites point to the Joint Chiefs of Staff having the authority to order the presidents arrest.

I am dubious about the Military having such responsibility because our government has been framed deliberately to subject the Military to civilian control. Similarly NCIS and any of the other federal policing agencies are quasi military and were created long after our form of government was established.

The Congress can impeach the president but this is not the same as arresting him for criminal activity.

Can it be done? If so, by whom? What basis in law is there for such an action?
The news today is filled with references to Pres. ... (show quote)


Good God I hope and pray Hussein can be arrested. I would go a step further and pray he be shot by firing squad ASAP. If we must have a trial, do it the same day and execute him the following day at high noon. Yes, I have the decency to offer him a cigarette. Let us put this behind us, get some closure for the American people and move forward. Glory be to God. Amen and Amen.

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Feb 26, 2015 16:32:52   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
Rufus wrote:
Good God I hope and pray Hussein can be arrested. I would go a step further and pray he be shot by firing squad ASAP. If we must have a trial, do it the same day and execute him the following day at high noon. Yes, I have the decency to offer him a cigarette. Let us put this behind us, get some closure for the American people and move forward. Glory be to God. Amen and Amen.


While I don't relish his being shot, I would enjoy seeing him in prison. We don't need a martyr for the left to continue doting on.

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Feb 26, 2015 16:49:31   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
PoppaGringo wrote:
While I don't relish his being shot, I would enjoy seeing him in prison. We don't need a martyr for the left to continue doting on.

i do not want one thin dime of my money keeping him alive, and for what purpose, to study Satan ? sorry. If you want to keep Satan alive, that is your business.

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Feb 26, 2015 16:53:51   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
PoppaGringo wrote:
While I don't relish his being shot, I would enjoy seeing him in prison. We don't need a martyr for the left to continue doting on.


I can't say I want to see him shot however if they tied him to a post in the town square and let everyone have a turn throwing rocks at him ( nothing bigger than your fist) I would drive to DC to take my turn, now that's how a Muslim should die

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Feb 26, 2015 17:09:43   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
Rufus wrote:
i do not want one thin dime of my money keeping him alive, and for what purpose, to study Satan ? sorry. If you want to keep Satan alive, that is your business.


He would suffer greatly by being imprisoned whereas being shot would negate his suffering. On second thought, perhaps he might enjoy being Big Bubba's cellmate.

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Feb 26, 2015 17:17:52   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
PoppaGringo wrote:
He would suffer greatly by being imprisoned whereas being shot would negate his suffering. On second thought, perhaps he might enjoy being Big Bubba's cellmate.


I respect your point of view. I will be OK with it as long as self proclaimed liberal pay every penny of his incarceration, he has no contact whatsoever with anyone, and at the slightest movement even in his sleep he is eliminated for all time. Amen. Praise God. evil is evil. You do not play with evil. It must be destroyed.

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Feb 26, 2015 17:35:38   #
shellybee
 
PoppaGringo wrote:
While I don't relish his being shot, I would enjoy seeing him in prison. We don't need a martyr for the left to continue doting on.



send him to club fed with golf clubs, that's his best sk**l to date , he already sufficed his ego by being elected in the first place !!! He was the Least p**********l to date, of anyone, ever in the white house, let him write a book or anything for that matter just get him OUT!!!

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Feb 26, 2015 17:37:22   #
Haughty Lib Loc: Boston, NYC, D.C.
 
There's no law broken therefore no arrest.

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Feb 26, 2015 17:40:24   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
Haughty Lib wrote:
There's no law broken therefore no arrest.


Let us wait and see what occurs after his vacating the White House.

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Feb 26, 2015 17:45:17   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
Haughty Lib wrote:
There's no law broken therefore no arrest.


Die

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Feb 26, 2015 17:46:47   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
moldyoldy wrote:
OK, what does he have to do to comply? Nothing!!! There is no crime, just like all the other charges, imagined by right wing nuts.
Hang on to your ass, moldy, Obama has far exceeded his constitutional authority and is doing wh**ever the hell he wants, the law be damned.

As for arresting a sitting president, Section II, Article 4 of the Constitution provides the answer. He must first be charged with treason, bribery, and/or other high crimes and misdemeanors. He must then be tried and convicted.

If the charge is treason and he is convicted, the penalty in most nations on earth is death.

However, given the number of idolators in this country who blindly worship Obama, who are totally ignorant of the structure and function of a Constitutional Republic, and who have absolutely no understanding of the Constitution itself, even the charge itself--let alone the penalty--would bring out such a cacophony of screaming that it would be heard in Peking.

It is a good bet that if we had any congress critters with the cajones, Obama could be charged with all of the above.

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Feb 26, 2015 17:47:49   #
Kevyn
 
pafret wrote:
The news today is filled with references to Pres. Obama's defiance of a Federal Court Order delaying implementation of i*****l a***n amnesty. Given that refusal to obey a lawful court order is illegal and a crime, who arrests a sitting president for committing such a crime.

From my research so far, the Sargeant at Arms of the Senate is empowered to arrest the president but it is unclear whether this pertains to violations of Senate rules or for any crime in general.

There has been speculation that the deaths of Federal employees at the Navy Yard were in retaliation for an attempt by NCIS to arrest the president for treasonous activities. This may be a crackpot conspiracy theory but is there any t***h to NCIS being designated as the policing agency with the authority to investigate terrorism, treason etc.?

Other sites point to the Joint Chiefs of Staff having the authority to order the presidents arrest.

I am dubious about the Military having such responsibility because our government has been framed deliberately to subject the Military to civilian control. Similarly NCIS and any of the other federal policing agencies are quasi military and were created long after our form of government was established.

The Congress can impeach the president but this is not the same as arresting him for criminal activity.

Can it be done? If so, by whom? What basis in law is there for such an action?
The news today is filled with references to Pres. ... (show quote)

If the president is personally in violation of a legal court order the proper course of action is a contempt of court citation. This is what is happening to Sheriff Joke in Phoenix, in his instance he has disobeyed a court order for over a year and it is a criminal contempt charge that could come with jail time, a fat fine and his removal from office. The court decision in Texas in no way ruled on the Presidents completely legal executive action, it narrowly ruled that a procedure requiring a period of public comment was not properly followed. It is a stretch and will likely be quickly overturned on appeal rendering the entire exercise moot.

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Feb 26, 2015 17:57:46   #
MrEd Loc: Georgia
 
pafret wrote:
The news today is filled with references to Pres. Obama's defiance of a Federal Court Order delaying implementation of i*****l a***n amnesty. Given that refusal to obey a lawful court order is illegal and a crime, who arrests a sitting president for committing such a crime.

From my research so far, the Sargeant at Arms of the Senate is empowered to arrest the president but it is unclear whether this pertains to violations of Senate rules or for any crime in general.

There has been speculation that the deaths of Federal employees at the Navy Yard were in retaliation for an attempt by NCIS to arrest the president for treasonous activities. This may be a crackpot conspiracy theory but is there any t***h to NCIS being designated as the policing agency with the authority to investigate terrorism, treason etc.?

Other sites point to the Joint Chiefs of Staff having the authority to order the presidents arrest.

I am dubious about the Military having such responsibility because our government has been framed deliberately to subject the Military to civilian control. Similarly NCIS and any of the other federal policing agencies are quasi military and were created long after our form of government was established.

The Congress can impeach the president but this is not the same as arresting him for criminal activity.

Can it be done? If so, by whom? What basis in law is there for such an action?
The news today is filled with references to Pres. ... (show quote)




I h**e to say this, but a sitting President cannot be arrested. He has to be impeached first and then arrested. A Congressman cannot be arrested while on the floor of Congress, but may be arrested after leaving it. If the military went in and arrested him, it would be called a c**p, not an arrest. I know that is not what most people want to hear, but if we are going to have a Constitution, then we also must go by it too. Once obama is out of office then you can hold a trial for wh**ever you have on him and do wh**ever you want, but he cannot be arrested while in office.

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