Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich

Oh well.......just another "poor soul" bound for an eternity of "angst", pain, & suffering, & absence of happiness while here on Earth. Must "be Hell on earth", to think this way.......May God touch this "poor soul", & allow him to "see", .....FOR HE IS BLIND, & KNOWS NOT THE REASON FOR HIS EXISTANCE!

chuck slusser

you people are still spouting that I am the one here who is (some day or eternity) going to have to pay IN SOME KIND OF HELL.............NO ONE WILL DO ANYTHING IN SOME MYSTICAL ETERNITY. THE POOR SOUL,ANGST, PAIN MAY YOUR GOD TOUCH ME AND ALLOW ME TO SEE....DO YOU NOT LISTEN TO YOUR OWN RETORIC....SIMPLY COMPLETE BULLS**T .WHERE IS THIS HELL AT,WHERE IS YOUR ETERNITY. NO ONE WILL DO ANYTHING FOR ETERNITY .. YOU DO NOT SEE the real world. LIFE IS FINITE.....SORRY EXCUSES FOR MIND CONTROLL.........ALL I ASK IS WHERE IS THERE ANY PROOF THAT THIS CRAP HAS ANY CREDITABILTY...I HAVE ASKED MANY A SAVED SOUL THIS QUESTION....STILL WAITING FOR ONE REAL PROVEABLE ANSWER.....YOU TALK LIKE YOUR GOD IS A PERSON AND A HOLY BEING WHO LIVES (WHERE) ,,,YOU SAY YOUR GOD CAN BE PICKY ABOUT WHO are TO BE SEEN by him. ANSWERING THESE KIND OF QUESTIONS... when I was introduced to sunday school, the teacher said that god lives in your heart she had pictures and put black dot's on the heart ....I ask her "how can he put sins in me""...only you can sin.and blacken your heart.only he can remove them .....needless to say I left....sorry but it is your cross to bear enjoy.. I just do not think a small child sins........every religion has it own take on these things....if you really think that you are saved good for you ,put your money in the plate and pray for the...day. you paid enough to get in to your heaven....good luck with that................... .

Oliver Loc: Dayton, OH

1. Where has God been? "With the merciful Thou [God] will show Yourself merciful; with an upright man Thou [God] will show Yourself upright; with the pure, Thou [God] will show Yourself pure; and with the froward [adverse], Thou [God] will show Yourself froward [adverse]." Psalms 18:25-26 In other words, to the believer, God shows Himself everyday in His word, His creation, His protection, His guidance, and His comfort. But to the nonbeliever, God shows Himself in their non-belief and to the mocker, God shows Himself in their mocking. To the blind, God shows Himself in their blindness. "Do not be deceived: God is not mocked for wh**ever one sows [belief or non-belief], that will he also reap [more faith or more disbelief]." Galatians 6:7

2. The "contact link" between you and God has always been there. It is called the humility of faith: "For whosoever calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." Romans 10:13 So, please: go ahead and call him yourself. He's been waiting a long time for you to "contact" Him.

3. So, you think "proof" is all that is needed for one to believe? "Because that which may be known of God is manifest[ly clear] to them [unbelievers]; for God has shown it unto them [all unbelievers]. For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are CLEARLY SEEN, being understood by the things that are made [proof], even His eternal power and Godhead; so that they [unbelievers] are WITHOUT EXCUSE." Romans 1:19-20

4. Faith has no tolerance for nonbelievers? Really? From where or from whom did you get that sweeping generalization? Not from scripture.
a. The Moslem "faith" as written in their unholy book, the Koran, COMMANDS that all non-believing Moslems are to be given the choice to be assimilated through lying and deception and if not acquiescing to them then to be brutally k**led. This is the "faith" that has absolutely no tolerance for others of differing "faiths".
b. The Christian "faith" as written in the Holy Book, the scriptures, paints a very different picture of God's view of unbelievers: "But God commends His love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners [unbelievers], Christ died for us." Romans 5:8 Christ then goes on to COMMAND those that follow Him by "faith" to "Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that h**e you, and pray for them that deceitfully use you and persecute you." Matthew 5:44
c. So, while Allah COMMANDS his followers and all nonbelievers to die for him; God, through Christ, SACRIFICED His own life for His followers and all nonbelievers. Quite a marked contrast to say the least.

5. The Church has never, ever promised any virgins...only the Moslem faith. Please, get your facts straight.

chuck slusser

you are so full of crap.... as I said before lots of retoric no facts... aren't angels virgins...????????????..you keep going back to your holy book,,,that is the one with over 100 authors ,,most of whom did not know each other or even lived in the same time frame of christ.or even the same century.. the old testiment is a fun read, the new testiment not so much. and you must know that re-writes are not realiable ....way to many opions to be a creditable... I am only saying prove it.this discourse can go no where as long as you hold on to blind faith and not except the facts (which are not forthcoming).. your faith will not allow it, now tell me the where and how, and then I will take a serious look at it...I have not found anyone who was able to do this ....maybe it's you.. but this is the 21st. century, I would say that your reference's are in need of coming up to date

OldKel

With all your Gods Power,( a few hundred religions ), There has never been one who has the power to make me believe. Belief is,(naturely)in your mind.A bus load of Christian teenagers traveling to a retreat to be brainwashed rolls over and down a cliff. Every single one of them die! Where was the God they were going to worship?A 54 year old American christian woman goes to work and one of her fellow employeses cuts her head off. Where was her God? 21 Coptic christians decapitated. Where was their God? Christians are 33% of all organized religions; this must mean that 67% of the worlds population is going to hell according to Christians. Many people need a crutch to lean on. they just do not have faith in themselves. My mother and her 5 children were standing around my dad's hospital bed, all praying that he would not die.He died right right before our eyes in 1945, he was 32 years old. I'm 79 years old right now and haven't prayed since. I am a Realist! What's going to happen, happens period. Do all the praying to God you want, but, if you hear him talking back to you, you need to get your head examined!

OldKel

Chuck, OldKel here. No God for me either.
You just say it better than I do.

chuck slusser

thanks for the support your post was good for me ...I know that we are not the ones screwed up with J.C. AND THE BOYS

wuzblynd Loc: thomson georgia

U keep hollering about proof. Do u have proof that we are wrong? Now don't waste ur time trying to tell me that if there was a God then this tradgedy or that tragedy would not happen. If their was a god life would not have this or that. U did not and cannot create any thing but a mess. He made this. Its his world ur just in it. Well go ahead and astound me with ur wealth of knowledge. And don't forget I don't care about ur opinion give me proof.

chuck slusser

if 2000 years is not proof that there is no god then just what the hell do you belive in... if all the crap that this world is in is not gods lack of work then just how will god fix this

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

The Eternal Optimist, eventually dies.... :lol:

You can run, but you can't hide. Good point. The only point that needs to be made. Yes, where is your God? Where is your God, when bad people k**l good people? When is there ever going to be any intervention? Never, how clever!

wuzblynd Loc: thomson georgia

WOW!!! I am astounded!!! I knew u could do it. Because u made up some rules in ur head and God did not match the silly stuff u come up well that's rock solid proof if I ever seen it. Thanx for setting me strait. By the way bro u have way to high of a opinion of itself. Death and ugly things in life are part of the deal. Again its His world!!! U caint create nothing but a head ache. Chow!!!

chuck slusser

more bulls**t... ok:: god damm I must tell you I can not put up with stuiped...if you can not defend your talk then try praying out loud..... you have no clue of todays world ,,if you do know that more people have been k**led in the name of their god,than in all the conflicts of the world (( gods work no doubt.....I would say)).. my proof you asked about,,,is the total lack of proof that any deity doing anything anywhere ever...if your god will not do anything to keep mankind from the k*****g in his (her) name,,,that in itself proves something does it not..................???

Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich

"poor soul".........Let's all "pray for this lost soul, & hope God manifests himself to him.......{ in some way, he can identify with }............Don't believe in Hell? Just look at What King Obammy has done to our prescious America! { there's a lot of Hell there}........................... :twisted:

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

You demonstrate such powers of hypocrisy....let's bow our heads and think evil thoughts??? :evil: You are one jacked up individual, thoughtless, without creed, a liar and deceiver.

Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich

Oh.....how thou doust manifest thy ignorance, & angst, against one of "God's" chosen people. I forgive you, & hope God touch's you "somehow"........You poor unhappy soul!....................... :cry: