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Jul 7, 2013 21:15:05   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
USpatriot77 wrote:
I appreciate your point of view, but I too have served and had the "sjap in the face" from the other sides "free speech" advocates. my 221/2 years of military service, the blood shed for "other country's" thankless masses has given me a rare insight as to how American's are seen in the eyes of most of the rest of the world. We(American's) try to help the 3rd world country's into the 21st century and they piss all over us. America needs to first and foremost think of its own people first, then and only when invited help other country's of the world. if that means closing our borders, so be it! The time to, " bring us your hungry, your poor, your huddled masses", has long since ended. All the billions of dollars of foreign aid being given away to "thankless hordes" should stop and our own poor should be taken care of. America is NOT the world's Policeman.
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Usually I am extremely verbose; however, I can only come up with one word in response to your comment. It is Sunday. Can you guess....AMEN! :!: :!: :!:

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Jul 7, 2013 21:33:30   #
rumitoid
 
USpatriot77 wrote:
I appreciate your point of view, but I too have served and had the "sjap in the face" from the other sides "free speech" advocates. my 221/2 years of military service, the blood shed for "other country's" thankless masses has given me a rare insight as to how American's are seen in the eyes of most of the rest of the world. We(American's) try to help the 3rd world country's into the 21st century and they piss all over us. America needs to first and foremost think of its own people first, then and only when invited help other country's of the world. if that means closing our borders, so be it! The time to, " bring us your hungry, your poor, your huddled masses", has long since ended. All the billions of dollars of foreign aid being given away to "thankless hordes" should stop and our own poor should be taken care of. America is NOT the world's Policeman.
I appreciate your point of view, but I too have se... (show quote)


So your suggestion is that we steadily wind down what America stands for, support things like the Patriot Act and DUI stops, and forsake over 200 years of history as hope to the world, get off the world's stage and cower in a cave to lick our wounds and sing "Ca Sera sera." This is fear dressed in a stateman's suit.

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Jul 7, 2013 22:40:10   #
CrazyHorse Loc: Kansas
 
rumitoid wrote:
So your suggestion is that we steadily wind down what America stands for, support things like the Patriot Act and DUI stops, and forsake over 200 years of history as hope to the world, get off the world's stage and cower in a cave to lick our wounds and sing "Ca Sera sera." This is fear dressed in a stateman's suit.


Quid Pro Quo, rumitoady: Almost precisely your hero's stated foreign policy. Sounds like an admission to me.

OIllegal's foreign policy rabbit that attacked Jimmie Carter while he was just rowing his boat
OIllegal's foreign policy rabbit that attacked Jim...

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Jul 7, 2013 23:14:01   #
rumitoid
 
This always bothered me about Obama, Crazyhorse: he is slow on the uptake of unfolding events. This has hurt him significantly as the recent "scandals" came to light. This could be a professorial demeanor or any number of less flattering things. Or it could be that being under constant assault about anything he does, he has become over-cautious.

In my eyes (what else?) his foreign policy has been consistent and remarkably free from the usual face-saving and expedient political maneuvers of most presidents. Syria, for example. How easy and beneficial to him for general acceptance to put "feet on the ground." Despite all the pressure, which any politician concerned about their "legacy" would yield to, he stayed fast.

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Jul 8, 2013 00:00:36   #
USpatriot77 Loc: USA
 
This is called supporting our own self-interests and let the rest of the world take care of themselves. America's ego has gotten the best of this country, look at the current Administration for example. The old saying, "walk softly and carry a big stick" comes to mind. If a bully pushes you, don't run, push back harder. don't instigate anything-but don't walk away either.
rumitoid wrote:
This always bothered me about Obama, Crazyhorse: he is slow on the uptake of unfolding events. This has hurt him significantly as the recent "scandals" came to light. This could be a professorial demeanor or any number of less flattering things. Or it could be that being under constant assault about anything he does, he has become over-cautious.

In my eyes (what else?) his foreign policy has been consistent and remarkably free from the usual face-saving and expedient political maneuvers of most presidents. Syria, for example. How easy and beneficial to him for general acceptance to put "feet on the ground." Despite all the pressure, which any politician concerned about their "legacy" would yield to, he stayed fast.
This always bothered me about Obama, Crazyhorse: h... (show quote)

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Jul 8, 2013 00:38:04   #
rumitoid
 
USpatriot77 wrote:
This is called supporting our own self-interests and let the rest of the world take care of themselves. America's ego has gotten the best of this country, look at the current Administration for example. The old saying, "walk softly and carry a big stick" comes to mind. If a bully pushes you, don't run, push back harder. don't instigate anything-but don't walk away either.


My point was, USpatriot77, that Obama found the "road less traveled" and did not give into the face-saving "big stick."

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Jul 8, 2013 10:43:45   #
CrazyHorse Loc: Kansas
 
USpatriot77 wrote:
This is called supporting our own self-interests and let the rest of the world take care of themselves. America's ego has gotten the best of this country, look at the current Administration for example. The old saying, "walk softly and carry a big stick" comes to mind. If a bully pushes you, don't run, push back harder. don't instigate anything-but don't walk away either.


Quid Pro Quo, USpatriot77: This is the only stick the skinny legged wussy OIllegal carries.



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Jul 8, 2013 14:11:53   #
USpatriot77 Loc: USA
 
Your (ca sera sera) anectdotal approach is the same "crap" Obama-mau and his cronies have been shoving down the American people's throat's for the last 5 years-time to find a different line buddy!
rumitoid wrote:
So your suggestion is that we steadily wind down what America stands for, support things like the Patriot Act and DUI stops, and forsake over 200 years of history as hope to the world, get off the world's stage and cower in a cave to lick our wounds and sing "Ca Sera sera." This is fear dressed in a stateman's suit.

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