CrazyHorse Loc: Kansas

Quid Pro Quo, thirty50six: At least you haven't lost your sense of humor. :D :thumbup:

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

Sometimes Aunti is dimmer then/than a nightlight bulb, and it takes a while for that dimness to turn on.

After all the discussion on this matter, it occurs to me one thing which would happen (being a conspiracy theorist) before a full attempt of the government to totally usurp the Constitution is the usurpers coming after Banjojack, C*****r, mmccarty, and all the military veterans with the ability to organize, train and lead regular citizens. Current returning veterans are already encountering issues through the VA in an attempt to infringe on their 2nd Amendment rights.

I now fully qualify as a right wing conspiracy nut. Everyone needs some type of goal and achievement.

thirty50six

Thank you, just need deer season to start, I nap really good in a deer stand.

thirty50six

Just remember it's not paranoia if they really are out to get ya, & me.

rumitoid

I said the same thing a little earlier. How can a vet advocate so casually for war?

betty Loc: Arizona Mountains

Thats o.k. you read an felt it was possible today. Think of that history can be repeated..

betty Loc: Arizona Mountains

Thats o.k. you read an felt it was possible today. Think of that history can be repeated..

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

There are still many vets who served during the Cold War who saw no shooting, at all. I wear a cap that says Army Security Agency above the ASA logo and Cold War Veteran below that. I am proud of my service although I never had to fire a gun after basic training. I was always ready to use the carbine we had in our hut in case some C****es tried to get in it. Yes, we were surrounded by them both in southern Germany and northern Italy. We weren't allowed to go to town on May 1 in either country.

mtman2

Thanks for knowing all about me, I be sure to call you next time I need to know anything. I'm sure you two "Rambo's" will will be the 1st ones contacted by the 'the revolution' for advice + leadership. Tho the next time you digress and ramble-on, bother someone else; you have no idea who or what I am, what I've done or am doing.....Proverbs 18:13
It's also obvious U-2 aren't in charge of squat other than high keyboard opinions of UR-selves. Don't get too institutionalized!
I deferred in reference to the reason WE are all here -Gen. GW = someone who wouldn't agree with tyranny or those who bow their knee to it. Patriots!??? This country is not OURS per se it is a gift from the Founders Wisdom and Courage; they in their combined and derived knowledge of all mankinds dark history past, gave us a revolution every 2 4 + 6 yrs @ the polls, yet WE have slept as Nixon's "Silent Majority" for a 100yrs now. There are no more excuses or time to be asleep or institutionalized or raging against the machine WE built and allowed!
The Wisdom + Courage of the Founders, through and of their Faith IS all there ever was to build America; it needs to be understood, told, preached and spread again through out these here United States! It shades and overshadows any + all other favored ideologies. A shooting end game is not inevitable any more than the uncivil Civil war was but became a bloody horror on this nation now minus how many great men and their prodigies, possibly Pasteurs, Brownings, Booker-T's, Einsteins,Tellers, Tesla's, Edisons, Salks, Gates, Jobs, Reagans or Ted Cruz's! A few years and mechanized technology would have 'industrialized' the South, oh but somebody had to start shootin.
Though that was a good thing when that shot was the one "Heard Around the World".....and it still echoes today the hope and beginning of Freedom and Liberty for us + the world. The lefty wing-nut Lib/Progs have infiltrated never firing a shot; they can be put out the same way -of, for + by THE PEOPLE-, if they're awakened. What are U doin to help?

Loki Loc: Georgia

I am doing the doable, which entails alerting people, and attempting to motivate and educate them, and break through the apathy and ignorance that got us in this mess.

mtman2

Doesn't sound like it, I hear elitist arrogance, in judgement of what you know not of + people YOU have NO clue about or you'd take on a different tone. Esp. when in direct error with that individual...

TheCracker

[quote=AuntiE]As it appears v****g provides no resolution, how would you propose we regain the rights we are continually loosing?

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AuntiE. Both you and Crazyhorse both asked the same question. The question is valid and asks I back up my statements with ideas. I have been considering the best reply I could come up with, and here it is... Opinion only.

Who was it that said "all politics are local"? I think that local is the first step. By local I cover everything from local dog catcher all the way up to your states representatives. They are the ones who are supposed to directly represent you. If enough conservatives can play the political game and either change the v****g or if not replace their local representatives around the country then we all will win. One liberal shot down at a time will do quite nicely.

While it is true that all representatives have a lot of constituents pecking at their ears. I am sure they appreciate positive statements from the public, I am equally sure that they very much pay attention to news stories or other information dissimulated to the general public which can cast a negative light on their actions and cause them problems during the next e******n cycle.

Let's take just one example. Suppose you have a police department which is converting themselves into a military stance with armored cars, over zealous swat teams and fully automatic weapons. Even converting to black uniforms with webbing can be a early indicator. Yes. Many police departments are getting ahead of themselves these days and they are forgetting the old saying "to protect and serve."

What to do?

I think -- (this could change depending upon local attitudes) -- the first thing to do would be to have a private sit down chat with the police chief, or the sheriff. Not a phone call, not a letter, not by yourself, but with as many supporters as you can gather. If you can fill his office and have him bring in more seating, all the better. Also this should not be confrontational, but rather topics of concern and suggestions.

If this does not work then you should consider moving up a notch. Have both you and your supporters send letters to the editor of the local paper. Keep it up if necessary until it becomes a point of conversation in the community.

If this does not work then you should consider bundling enough money to place an add in the local paper. Name yourselves with a descriptive title. Perhaps something like "The Tiger Club": Take your considerations public and ask for even more donations from like minded citizens. Keep the paper busy printing up full page adds. (They are not that expensive) and I can guarantee you the paper will supplement your advertising with news stories and interviews.

Rest assured the local radio and television stations will have your group on the local news also.

Consider attending public service groups such as the Rotary etc. as a guest speaker. They are always searching for speakers. I know!

At this time you should have already formed a ad-hock committee (eg. The Tiger Club) meeting at a local bank or anywhere you can get free private access to a conference room. Do this so you make sure everyone in your committee is on the same page and drum beat. Then and only then should you invite the news and police officials into your first PUBLIC meeting. You want to put them on the hot seat, not have your own tigers squirming.

If this does not get law enforcement to change their stripes then expand your operations against your local law enforcement leader onto the mayor and county commissioners, repeating again as I suggested above..

Keep it up until you are taken seriously.

Remember; Never go off track. Nothing you cannot back up, no conspiracy theories, and always ready to smile and continue talking.

Make it hot enough, and I am almost sure any city official will want to please you and have you go away. Followed by your local state and congressional representatives.

You can take it to the bank, and you have followed the legal guidance of our constitution.

Hope this get's you thinking and I welcome your comments and suggestions.

The C*****r
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CrazyHorse Loc: Kansas

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Quid Pro Quo, The C*****r: All that is fine local work, but I'm not buying it nationally. We don't have the time. Not that I think I have the solution, but somehow, we have to get to old time patriotic democrats that have effectively been disenfranchised from the old time democrat party, that has now been hi-jacked by the Marxist socialist crowd and OIllegal and his politburo of Muslim Tzar's with terrorist connections. If we could convince enough old time democrats to help save our country and v**e with conservatives until we can get the country back and they can get their democrat party back, we might have a chance. But with the rampant e******n f***d and OIllegal turning the immigration Bill into a community organizer v***r r**********n drive for illegal invaders, it will be difficult to have any f**r e******n in the future. Just havin my say.

The New community organizer Dim voter regristration bill for Dim control in perpetuity


Maybe these surveillance protest folks could get connected to vote

thirty50six

Well said, sage advice

TheCracker

And you are welcome to your say. This is still America.

One thing to consider. If only tea party members could either replace or get ten senators converted over the next year before the 2014 midterm e******ns, then Obama becomes even more irrelevant. What a wonderful thought, what?