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Feb 8, 2015 11:29:22   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
robert66 wrote:
Did you make a reference to , " stand with the Muslims " ? The internet bulls**t e-mail. You could look that one up. I did not write that I believed in any way that the US is or was a Christian nation. I did relate what others on OPP have written as their own opinion when in reality it was just more ,word for word , stuff they heard on Fox news. I guess they might really believe it. I appreciate the way you have written that there is doubt as to all the details of the middle ages. I have always been under the impression it was a two way street. It does not seem to me that the contest of who could do the worst thing or was the most right or wrong had a clear champion. It might come down to who you would like to believe. Who were those people who burned reported witches up there in Salem ? Did they claim to be Christian ? Did that really happen ? If your family gets wasted by a missile that you believe is from an enemy , would you be looking for payback ? You you choose to make sure your enemy gets the message to stop messing with you ? What is the perspective of the ISIS maniacs ? How do they justify their actions ? The US dropped a couple of bombs on Japan a few years back. Some people were vaporized and others suffered horrible , ugly suffering before they died. What was the victims perspective ? We justified the bombs as merciful in order to end a war. Anyone on here that pretends they don't understand why the president made the comments that he did is a stupid s**t stirrer or truly a dumbass of epic proportions. He in no way is supporting an army of murderous maniacs that have a hard on for Christians. They have shown they are not prejudiced , they'll cut anyone's head off no matter what their religion or even if they practice one. Instead of the supposed "good Christians" backing the president they want to up the ante and make things worse. Sounds a lot like the middle ages to me.
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Funny you should mention Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The highest casualty figures I have found for a total on those 2 cities were a little over 200,000 dead and wounded.
When the Japanese invaded China, a few years earlier, the death toll, not dead and wounded, from Nanking alone was over a half-million unarmed civilians, deliberately slaughtered by the Japanese. The incredible brutality they showed civilians and prisoners both is well-documented, yet no mention is ever made of it. Somehow, the far smaller death toll from the two bombs is the atrocity of the ages, no doubt because of it's perpetration by the US.

The witch trials at Salem occurred in the 1690s. Once again, using atrocities of centuries ago to minimize atrocities today is pointless.

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Feb 8, 2015 11:38:53   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Loki wrote:
Funny you should mention Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The highest casualty figures I have found for a total on those 2 cities were a little over 200,000 dead and wounded.
When the Japanese invaded China, a few years earlier, the death toll, not dead and wounded, from Nanking alone was over a half-million unarmed civilians, deliberately slaughtered by the Japanese. The incredible brutality they showed civilians and prisoners both is well-documented, yet no mention is ever made of it. Somehow, the far smaller death toll from the two bombs is the atrocity of the ages, no doubt because of it's perpetration by the US.

The witch trials at Salem occurred in the 1690s. Once again, using atrocities of centuries ago to minimize atrocities today is pointless.
Funny you should mention Hiroshima and Nagasaki. T... (show quote)


Funny how all these pacifist booger eaters think that everyone who leaves them alone, and doesn't make them mad will be excluded from their world wide caliph**e.

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Feb 8, 2015 14:39:53   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
robert66 wrote:
Just curious here. Did the president say he thought it was okay for radical Islam or extremists , wh**ever , to cut peoples heads off and murder others including Muslims ? Did the president say , in any way , that he supports ISIS or ISIL ? Is it possible that you are posting this in support of some anti American philosophy that seeks to create a holy war and cultivate h**e of religions other than Christianity ? Is there anything he said that is not true ? Posters on OPP frequently cite that the US was established as a Christian nation over two hundred years ago. Over two hundred years ago. It's a bunch of bulls**t but if it's kosher for teatards to cite perceived happenings from two hundred years ago , why all the whining ?
Just curious here. Did the president say he though... (show quote)


robert66: Did the usurper say "Not a Smidgen of it?"

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Feb 8, 2015 20:30:00   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
Forkbassman wrote:
As a Christian wouldn't one defend his religion at least once in a while? Obama NEVER defends Christianity!


There are many who claim to be Christian that no longer defend Christianity any longer. Google Process theology or progressive theology and see what is being taught in many colleges and even some churches.

I am wondering just how much longer it will take for many of our elected and appointer officials to just come out and admit they are muslim supporters.

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Feb 8, 2015 20:31:16   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
archie bunker wrote:
Funny how all these pacifist booger eaters think that everyone who leaves them alone, and doesn't make them mad will be excluded from their world wide caliph**e.


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Feb 8, 2015 20:36:35   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
archie bunker wrote:
Funny how all these pacifist booger eaters think that everyone who leaves them alone, and doesn't make them mad will be excluded from their world wide caliph**e.


Must be something in the boogers.

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Feb 8, 2015 21:05:41   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
Forkbassman wrote:
As a Christian wouldn't one defend his religion at least once in a while? Obama NEVER defends Christianity!


Forkbassman,

The same could be said about a so called American. I am sorry, but I am sick to my soul of these liberals who act as if they honestly believe in and defend what this administration has done to America.

Wouldn't you think just once in a while a real American would defend America just once in a while :?: :?: :?: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD:

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Feb 8, 2015 21:06:13   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
Forkbassman wrote:
As a Christian wouldn't one defend his religion at least once in a while? Obama NEVER defends Christianity!


Forkbassman,

The same could be said about a so called American. I am sorry, but I am sick to my soul of these liberals who act as if they honestly believe in and defend what this administration has done to America.

Wouldn't you think just once in a while a real American would defend America just once in a while :?: :?: :?: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD:

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Feb 8, 2015 21:06:47   #
BOHICA
 
Armageddun wrote:
Forkbassman,

The same could be said about a so called American. I am sorry, but I am sick to my soul of these liberals who act as if they honestly believe in and defend what this administration has done to America.

Wouldn't you think just once in a while a real American would defend America just once in a while :?: :?: :?: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD:


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Feb 8, 2015 22:32:00   #
Ricktloml
 
Armageddun wrote:
There are many who claim to be Christian that no longer defend Christianity any longer. Google Process theology or progressive theology and see what is being taught in many colleges and even some churches.

I am wondering just how much longer it will take for many of our elected and appointer officials to just come out and admit they are muslim supporters.


It is obvious that is what liberals are waiting for. An outright admission, even then they would probably find some way to excuse what was said. What IS obvious are the actions of Obama and those in his administration, and 99% if the Democrat Party and the media who give enormous aid and comfort to the enemy.

Islamist-allied operatives appointed by Obama are undermining U.S. security policy-explains counter-intelligence expert, Professor Clair Lopez. Aimed at co-opting American foreign policy in the Middle East, a network including well-known diplomata, congressional representatives, figures from academia and the think tank world- with ties to the clerical regime in Tehran-is directing the Obama administration policy towards the Islamic Republic of Iran and the Middle East.

So there are already plenty of t*****rs right now, and it really isn't that hard to find out about them-liberals not only prefer not to know, they want to silence anyone who would point it out

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Feb 8, 2015 23:02:00   #
PeterS
 
Loki wrote:
To comment on your other statement that shows your absolute lack of an understanding of historical circumstance;

The US was not so much founded as a Christian country as it was a given that it was a Christian country, and none of the Founders could envision it ever being anything else. Religion was a dominating force in the 18th century.


The 18th Century was know as the Age of Reason and the Enlightenment--That never would have occurred had religion been the dominating force. If anything dominated religion it was freedom of religion not religion itself. Fundamentalists tend to think that the founders were just as they are but the founders were men of reason able to separate their religious views from their political views thus we are a nation based on mans reason not the dogma of the Christian church.

Before admonishing others for their lack of understanding of history you would do well to understand a bit of history yourself...

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Feb 8, 2015 23:19:43   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
PeterS wrote:
The 18th Century was know as the Age of Reason and the Enlightenment--That never would have occurred had religion been the dominating force. If anything dominated religion it was freedom of religion not religion itself. Fundamentalists tend to think that the founders were just as they are but the founders were men of reason able to separate their religious views from their political views thus we are a nation based on mans reason not the dogma of the Christian church.

Before admonishing others for their lack of understanding of history you would do well to understand a bit of history yourself...
The 18th Century was know as the Age of Reason and... (show quote)


peterS: You will be many of who are be dead wrong on this issue....maybe enlightenment in Europe...but in America Exceptionalism!

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Feb 8, 2015 23:30:04   #
emarine
 
AuntiE wrote:
http://townhall.com/columnists/nickadams/2015/02/07/the-obama-doctrine-relativism-at-all-costs-n1954140

The Obama Doctrine: Relativism at All Costs

After six years in office, there are few things that President Obama does that surprises me.

Notwithstanding this, I was still shocked to hear his remarks at the National Prayer Breakfast.

Using some misguided moral equivalency, President Obama reached back over almost a thousand years to compare a group of Christians then to current day radical Islamists k*****g innocents in the name of Allah, telling Christians not to get on their “high horse”. (Not to mention, he conveniently omitted the context of the Crusades, a response to Islamic conquest).

At times during the speech, it appeared the President was taking on his much-coveted role of Professor, lecturing students. There is great irony here. He, along with his friends, the media-academic complex, the West’s left and their doctrine of relativism, are the ones that need a history lesson.

This doctrine is a denial of reality, makes it impossible to defeat the jihad, and putting homeland security at risk. The Bible is not the same as the Koran. All religions are not the same.

It has never been clearer: the West is at war with Islam. This is neither hypothesis nor opinion; it is reality. No delicacy, diplomacy, disguise or differentiation can alter this.

What is happening with ISIS, and what happened in Boston, Fort Hood, New York, Bali, Madrid, Sydney, London and most recently, Paris, is not unusual, or new or coincidental.

The t***h concerning Islam has been a casualty of political correctness. The reality is that from its inception until now, Islam has been violent, with its purpose to bring mankind to Islam. Throughout history, it went to war to conquer and convert people in countries from the Atlantic Ocean to Western China. These were never defensive wars. None of the conquered countries threatened Muslim Arabia.

The Battle of Tours in 732. The Siege of Constantinople in 1453. The Battle of Lepanto in 1571. The Battle of Vienna in 1683. The Battle of Derne in 1804. It goes on.

A lack of liberty, an abandonment of reason, the imposition of Sharia on Muslims and non-Muslims, as well as the treatment of women are just some of the serious moral problems within the Muslim world. Islamist views are incompatible with the liberty enjoyed by Americans.

With Islamic supremacism a mainstream interpretation of Islam, deeply rooted in Islamic scripture and endorsed by many of Islam’s most influential scholars, we face this perpetual global jihad. It is in their DNA. Change is not coming.

They will not stop. The more we bow, the more they will bomb. The more we relate, equate and obfuscate, the weaker we become. The more we fear to offend and the more we hesitate to identify the enemy, the more they edge toward victory. The deceptive adorning of qualities, most notably of Islam being a religion of peace, must stop. It is the West, beaconed by America, England and Australia from across the oceans, that has sought peace. Due to this advocacy and false narrative, our war is as much with the chattering classes as it is with the jihadi.

The current tyranny against common sense that presides in the West will quickly become the tyranny of Sharia, if we are not careful. Subservience to political correctness will turn to subservience to the Caliph**e, if the Western world, led by America, does not wake up.

I have long maintained that Americans must prepare themselves for eventual full-scale war this century or the next with the Islamist.

If this becomes reality, the West will have no choice but to extirpate the enemy as mercilessly and thoroughly as possible, as this attitude defines the Islamist warrior and his jihad.

Demography is rampantly on the side of Islam, particularly in Europe, and as such, a most substantial increase in Islamic power in this territory of the world must be expected.

There is only one force that stands in the way of global Islam, and that is the United States of America.

It is deeply regrettable and telling that President Obama would desperately reach back 1000 years to make a comparison that would excuse or blunt the impact of militant Islam today.

Nick Adams is an Australian best-selling author, speaker and political commentator. He is best known for his work in the field of American exceptionalism, and is credited with a resurgence in the idea worldwide. He is a regular on Fox News, C-SPAN and nationally-syndicated radio. Adams has received several state awards, being appointed an Honorary Texan by Governor Rick Perry in 2013. He is the author of the book: The American Boomerang (2014). His website is www.nickadamsinamerica.com.
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I must say this is a very interesting and surprising post. I think we have to question the validly of ... are all Muslims extreme... before we commit to war and death.... I truly think it is only a fraction of Islam that are the problem... That is the whole problem in fighting terrorism... It hides the evil in with the good... that is the only way terrorism can survive and the only reason we have not yet defeated them... humanity as a whole has not been very well behaved over the last 1000 years to single out anyone in particular. This is an extremely frustrating time we live in. Total all out war should be a last resort, it is this restraint that makes America exceptional.

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Feb 8, 2015 23:38:06   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
PeterS wrote:
The 18th Century was know as the Age of Reason and the Enlightenment--That never would have occurred had religion been the dominating force. If anything dominated religion it was freedom of religion not religion itself. Fundamentalists tend to think that the founders were just as they are but the founders were men of reason able to separate their religious views from their political views thus we are a nation based on mans reason not the dogma of the Christian church.

Before admonishing others for their lack of understanding of history you would do well to understand a bit of history yourself...
The 18th Century was know as the Age of Reason and... (show quote)


I would predict that you have picked the wrong person to correct on almost any subject. Brace yourself.

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Feb 9, 2015 00:06:45   #
BOHICA
 
emarine wrote:
I must say this is a very interesting and surprising post. I think we have to question the validly of ... are all Muslims extreme... before we commit to war and death.... I truly think it is only a fraction of Islam that are the problem... That is the whole problem in fighting terrorism... It hides the evil in with the good... that is the only way terrorism can survive and the only reason we have not yet defeated them... humanity as a whole has not been very well behaved over the last 1000 years to single out anyone in particular. This is an extremely frustrating time we live in. Total all out war should be a last resort, it is this restraint that makes America exceptional.
I must say this is a very interesting and surprisi... (show quote)


There is nothing good about Islam.

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