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Jul 1, 2013 09:14:06   #
Lasher Loc: Georgia
 
Adagio wrote:
It would look like a Republican trolling Neshoba County Mississippi for r****t v**es in order to keep minorities from v****g.

In 1980, Ronald Reagan began his campaign, not with a speech on supply side economics. He began it with a speech supporting “states rights” just outside Philadelphia, Mississippi at the Neshoba County Fair, the very community where three civil rights workers were murdered in 1964. This was a deliberate appeal to white r****ts that he was on their side and was part of a Republican strategy going back to the 1960’s to build a conservative majority on the basis of r****m.

Situationally, conservatism is defined as the ideology arising out of a distinct but recurring type of historical situation in which a fundamental challenge is directed at established institutions and in which the supporters of those institutions employ the conservative ideology in their defense. Thus, conservatism is that system of ideas employed to justify any established social order, no matter where or when it exists, against any fundamental challenge to its nature or being, no matter from what quarter. Conservatism in this sense is possible in the United States today only if there is a basic challenge to existing American institutions which impels their defenders to articulate conservative values.

The Civil Rights movement was a direct challenge to the existing institutions of the time, and
conservatism as an ideology is thus a reaction to a system under challenge, a defense of the status – quo in a period of intense ideological and social conflict.

The very notion of a race of people that was; at our beginnings as a country, only considered to be 3/5’s of a human being, now having equal footing with those that actually believed in this idea, is a direct challenge to a long held social concept. It denied the idea of w***e s*******y as legitimate. It’s surprising how many people still cling to this idea, and will go to extreme lengths to perpetuate it.

The idea that a person that could have been your s***e at one time, could today be your boss, or even President of the United States, is more than some people can deal with on an emotional level. W***e s*******y as an institution is renounced, discredited, and dismantled, and that is a major blow to an existing order, and conservatism is always a reaction to a challenge to an existing order. These are people that desperately need somebody to look down to in order to validate their own self-worth. “Sure, life is tough. But at least I’m White.” They can no longer rely on a policy that used to be institutionally enforceable. When that is removed by law, hostility is the result; hostility for those that have been emancipated by law and elevated to equal status, and hostility for the law itself including those that proposed it and passed it.

Thus, hatred for African-Americans and for the Liberal’s and liberal policies that endorse their equal status is fully embraced by the conservative.
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Jul 1, 2013 21:06:47   #
Adagio
 
steyr556 wrote:
So why is that we know what tyranny looks like and we still sit on our hands waiting for someone to do something?

It is everybody's responsibility to do something what the hell do we think the 2nd amendment was put in place for!


So you're advocating taking up arms against the US government? Is that it?

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Jul 1, 2013 23:55:06   #
LAwrence
 
Tyranny is already a fact in America. It is more subtle now than it was in N**I Germany. What can we do? I am against armed r*******n but I will not go quietly to the concentration camp. I intend to obey all laws which do not coflict with my christian beliefs and the constitution, but will not be silenced either. Meet me in one of America's gulags unless they k**l us first.

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Jul 2, 2013 01:16:54   #
ABBAsFernando Loc: Ohio
 
hprinze wrote:
It's pretty obvious that Obama is a treasonous criminal turning the USA into his own dictatorship.

The question is not what is Obama doing?
The question is what are congress and the judicial branch doing to stop him?


Apparently NOTHING!

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Jul 2, 2013 01:18:56   #
ABBAsFernando Loc: Ohio
 
steyr556 wrote:
So why is that we know what tyranny looks like and we still sit on our hands waiting for someone to do something?

It is everybody's responsibility to do something what the hell do we think the 2nd amendment was put in place for!


Apparently Obama threatened Roberts to force him into passing the F*****T Obama care FRAUD!

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Jul 2, 2013 02:20:13   #
rumitoid
 
Nice piece, adagio. BTW, my favorite of all musical scores is the Adagio in G Minor, by Albinoni.

In my experience, conservatives are merely concerned with maintaining the status quo of the values entrusted to them by their religion, group, or family. Anything less is a betrayal to those they love and respect. It is not like it seems, an unreasonably obstinate resistance to change, but an honoring of what was passed on to them. As stupid or illogical as some of their defenses and attacks may seem, it is a stubborn loyalty at the root.

I believe that conservatives are more honest, though not necessarily better-informed or wise. Remaining true to something like s***ery is commendable, after a fashion, yet this status quo is a stain. S***e-owners that for all apearances were decent and loving people, defended this practice not out of a belief that the s***e was not human but that those who handed down this practice were decent and loving people, their family and country.

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Jul 2, 2013 03:37:12   #
Adagio
 
LAwrence wrote:
Tyranny is already a fact in America. It is more subtle now than it was in N**I Germany. What can we do? I am against armed r*******n but I will not go quietly to the concentration camp. I intend to obey all laws which do not coflict with my christian beliefs and the constitution, but will not be silenced either. Meet me in one of America's gulags unless they k**l us first.


You really need to get a grip. Or else see a shrink.

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Jul 2, 2013 03:49:52   #
Adagio
 
rumitoid wrote:
Nice piece, adagio. BTW, my favorite of all musical scores is the Adagio in G Minor, by Albinoni.

In my experience, conservatives are merely concerned with maintaining the status quo of the values entrusted to them by their religion, group, or family. Anything less is a betrayal to those they love and respect. It is not like it seems, an unreasonably obstinate resistance to change, but an honoring of what was passed on to them. As stupid or illogical as some of their defenses and attacks may seem, it is a stubborn loyalty at the root.

I believe that conservatives are more honest, though not necessarily better-informed or wise. Remaining true to something like s***ery is commendable, after a fashion, yet this status quo is a stain. S***e-owners that for all apearances were decent and loving people, defended this practice not out of a belief that the s***e was not human but that those who handed down this practice were decent and loving people, their family and country.
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So you're an apologist for s***ery and s***e owners? Remaining true to something like s***ery is "commendable"? Really? S***e owners were decent and loving people...to their own families maybe, but it's a bit hard to buy that knowing that they broke up families whenever they chose by selling members of a family at their whim. Not to mention the whippings and maimings to keep them in line.

"It is not like it seems, an unreasonably obstinate resistance to change, but an honoring of what was passed on to them."

Not unreasonably obstinate in their resistance to change?
An honoring of what was passed on to them??hmmmm....these are the words of a guy known as Big Milam. He was one of the two guys that k**led Emmett Till who was 14 years old.

Milam: "Well, what else could we do? He was hopeless. I'm no bully; I never hurt a n****r in my life. I like n****rs -- in their place -- I know how to work 'em. But I just decided it was time a few people got put on notice. As long as I live and can do anything about it, n****rs are gonna stay in their place. N****rs ain't gonna v**e where I live. If they did, they'd control the government. They ain't gonna go to school with my kids. And when a n****r gets close to mentioning sex with a white woman, he's tired o' livin'. I'm likely to k**l him. Me and my folks fought for this country, and we got some rights."

Not too unreasonably obstinate in their resistance to change? Well after all...he was just honoring what was passed down to him. Here's his handy work.

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Jul 2, 2013 12:35:28   #
Lasher Loc: Georgia
 
ABBAsFernando wrote:
Apparently Obama threatened Roberts to force him into passing the F*****T Obama care FRAUD!


No, it was the Z*****ts who put Obama into office who threatened Roberts, just as they keep all their other politician puppets in line.

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Jul 2, 2013 12:38:45   #
Lasher Loc: Georgia
 
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Jul 2, 2013 18:32:12   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Lasher wrote:
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It seems that a new language is being tried here or someone has slipped on over the hill. Which would you others think about this post?

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Jul 2, 2013 18:45:55   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
oldroy wrote:
It seems that a new language is being tried here or someone has slipped on over the hill. Which would you others think about this post?


this makes as much sense as everything else he has writen

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Jul 2, 2013 19:05:22   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
alex wrote:
this makes as much sense as everything else he has writen


He has been rather decent today. He has been way ahead of how he had been for several days. I guess he can only last for a short time without going out into outer space. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Jul 2, 2013 20:24:02   #
LAwrence
 
Sorry to say; Congress is doing nothing to stop Obama. It is more likely congress has been aiding him in his tyranny all along.

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Jul 2, 2013 22:00:29   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
LAwrence wrote:
Sorry to say; Congress is doing nothing to stop Obama. It is more likely congress has been aiding him in his tyranny all along.


I don't think Tim Huelskamp is siding with Obama. NOw GOP progressives will help Obama and others of that ilk throw out Huelskamp but those of us in western Kansas will just send him back if they manage it.

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