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Feb 2, 2015 23:17:22   #
larrypuckett1939
 
YES IT IS, BUT THEY AREN'T PART OF OUR GENERATION!
PELOSI AND REID ARE PART OF THE POT HEAD GENERATION,
AND YOU CAN SEE IT!!
true patriot



Ricktloml wrote:
It is appalling isn't it?! This isn't ancient history, yet people are falling for the same tired lies the left has always used. Plus the left depends on apathy. I guess that's why they are called useful I***TS.

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Feb 3, 2015 01:49:11   #
Ricktloml
 
PeterS wrote:
Hitler thought his actions were sanctioned by Christ so how is this the same path he used?


Hitler's Table Talk, a revealing collection of the Fuhrer's private opinions, assembled by by private aide during the war years shows Hitler to be rabidly anti-religious. He called Christianity one of the great :scourges" of history, and said of the Germans, "Let's be the only people who are immunized against this disease." He promised that "through the peasantry we shall be able to destroy Christianity." In fact, he blamed the Jews for inventing Christianity. HE also condemned Christianity for it's opposition to evolution.
Hitler reserved special scorn for the Christian values of e******y and compassion, which he identified with weakness. Hitler's leading advisers like Goebbles-Himmler- Heydrich and Bormann were atheists who h**ed religion and sought to eradicate it's influence in Germany..
The N**i stopped celebrating Christmas and the Hitler youth recited a prayer thanking the Fuhrer rather than God for their blessings.

Seems like Hitler didn't haven't much use for Christ.

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Feb 3, 2015 02:06:07   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
oldroy wrote:
I have always wondered if I could use a gun to take the life of a human being but do know that when the day comes I don't think it will be hard. I may be put in some kind of camp but if some of them go with me before they get me I will be consoled.
Ain't no way, oldroy, that I am going to end up in some camp. If may quote a line from Shania Twain's song, Black Eyes, Blue Tears:

"I'd rather die standin' than live on my knees, beggin' please . . . "

Me? I'll die fighting or I will disappear into the wilderness and, if possible, be a partisan guerrilla. No freaking way am I going be a sheep led to the slaughter.

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Feb 3, 2015 04:00:47   #
larrypuckett1939
 
RICKTLON,
I AM AN AMATEUR HISTORIAN, ALONG WITH HAVING TAUGHT IT
FOR 43 YEARS, AND IT IS AMAZING WHAT LITTLE TIDBITS YOU FIND
BURIED BETWEEN THE COVERS OF A BOOK. SOMEONE ON HERE TRIED TO TELL US THAT (IT) IS A CHRISTIAN, AND THAT COULDN'T BE FURTHER FROM THE T***H. I BELIEVE THAT (IT) AND HE/SHE WERE BROUGHT TOGETHER BY THE UN-REVEREND WRIGHT, WHO KNOWS ALL ABOUT BOTH OF THEM.
I REALLY BELIEVE THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO D**G (ITS)
WORTHLESS ASS OUT OF THERE AND STRAIGHT TO THE H*****G TREE, BECAUSE (IT) IS NOT GOING TO LEAVE VOLUNTARILY. IT IS WAITING FOR AN EXCUSE TO CALL FOR MARTIAL LAW, AND THEN WE ARE DONE!



Ricktloml wrote:
Hitler's Table Talk, a revealing collection of the Fuhrer's private opinions, assembled by by private aide during the war years shows Hitler to be rabidly anti-religious. He called Christianity one of the great :scourges" of history, and said of the Germans, "Let's be the only people who are immunized against this disease." He promised that "through the peasantry we shall be able to destroy Christianity." In fact, he blamed the Jews for inventing Christianity. HE also condemned Christianity for it's opposition to evolution.
Hitler reserved special scorn for the Christian values of e******y and compassion, which he identified with weakness. Hitler's leading advisers like Goebbles-Himmler- Heydrich and Bormann were atheists who h**ed religion and sought to eradicate it's influence in Germany..
The N**i stopped celebrating Christmas and the Hitler youth recited a prayer thanking the Fuhrer rather than God for their blessings.

Seems like Hitler didn't haven't much use for Christ.
Hitler's Table Talk, a revealing collection of the... (show quote)

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Feb 3, 2015 04:35:20   #
PeterS
 
Ricktloml wrote:
Hitler's Table Talk, a revealing collection of the Fuhrer's private opinions, assembled by by private aide during the war years shows Hitler to be rabidly anti-religious. He called Christianity one of the great :scourges" of history, and said of the Germans, "Let's be the only people who are immunized against this disease." He promised that "through the peasantry we shall be able to destroy Christianity." In fact, he blamed the Jews for inventing Christianity. HE also condemned Christianity for it's opposition to evolution.
Hitler reserved special scorn for the Christian values of e******y and compassion, which he identified with weakness. Hitler's leading advisers like Goebbles-Himmler- Heydrich and Bormann were atheists who h**ed religion and sought to eradicate it's influence in Germany..
The N**i stopped celebrating Christmas and the Hitler youth recited a prayer thanking the Fuhrer rather than God for their blessings.

Seems like Hitler didn't haven't much use for Christ.
Hitler's Table Talk, a revealing collection of the... (show quote)

Ah, Hitler's "Table Talk" the often misquoted quotes of Der Furher. "Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery" (Stevens and Cameron's English, again matching Genoud's French verbatim).

But the original German says, "Christianity teaches 't***substantiation,' which is the maddest thing ever concocted by a human mind in its delusions, a mockery of all that is godly."

The difference in meaning here is radical, and again shows how Genoud (hence the Trevor-Roper t***slation) has distorted Hitler's criticism of one form of Christianity (which implies he believed there was a true Christianity) into a thoroughly anti-Christian sentiment."

I understand why Christians want to disavow Der Furher but the fact remains that Hitler he and his fellow N**i's represented what they believed to be "true Christianity" much like Christian Conservative's do today!

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Feb 3, 2015 15:44:26   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
PeterS wrote:
I understand why Christians want to disavow Der Furher but the fact remains that Hitler he and his fellow N**i's represented what they believed to be "true Christianity" much like Christian Conservative's do today!
What you are really saying here is that you, PeterS, an atheist, anti-Christian, hypocrite are the ultimate authority on what "True Christianity" is or is not. How did you attain such a lofty, even exalted, intelligence? Apparently your knowledge and insights exceed that of the Man who brought the Christian message into the world. Moreover, you are basing your brilliant "deductions" on the extreme anti-Christian doctrines of N**ism.

Put succinctly, you have such a mindless hatred of Christians that you allude to Adolph Hitler's twisted atheistic views in a supremely ignorant attempt to dismiss, out of hand, the True Christian himself.

An attempt to clarify a very important point about Christianity and Christians will, no doubt, prove futile in challenging the supreme spiritual authority of Saint PeterS, but here goes:

Roman pagans first coined the term "Christian". It was their slanderous pejorative to describe the followers of Christ Jesus. There is a vast difference between claiming to be a Christian and those of us who are Disciples of Christ.

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Feb 4, 2015 01:04:50   #
Ricktloml
 
PeterS wrote:
Ah, Hitler's "Table Talk" the often misquoted quotes of Der Furher. "Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery" (Stevens and Cameron's English, again matching Genoud's French verbatim).

But the original German says, "Christianity teaches 't***substantiation,' which is the maddest thing ever concocted by a human mind in its delusions, a mockery of all that is godly."

The difference in meaning here is radical, and again shows how Genoud (hence the Trevor-Roper t***slation) has distorted Hitler's criticism of one form of Christianity (which implies he believed there was a true Christianity) into a thoroughly anti-Christian sentiment."

I understand why Christians want to disavow Der Furher but the fact remains that Hitler he and his fellow N**i's represented what they believed to be "true Christianity" much like Christian Conservative's do today!
Ah, Hitler's "Table Talk" the often misq... (show quote)


"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with it';s unfair salaries, with it's unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions."---Adolph Hitler, May 1927

The bourgeois is about to leave the historical stage. In it's place will come the class of productive workers, the working class, that has been up until today oppressed. It is begfinning to fulfill it's political mission. It is involved in a hard strugfgle for political power as it seeks to become part of the nationwide organism. The battle began in the economic realm; it will finish in the political. It is not only a matter of the number of hours worked in a day, though we may never forget that these are an essential, perhaps even the most significant part of the SOCIALIST platform-but it is much more a matter of incorporating a powerful and responsible class in the state,m perhaps even to make it the dominant force in the future politics of the Fatherland."--From Goebbels widely distributed pamplet

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Feb 4, 2015 01:05:43   #
Ricktloml
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
What you are really saying here is that you, PeterS, an atheist, anti-Christian, hypocrite are the ultimate authority on what "True Christianity" is or is not. How did you attain such a lofty, even exalted, intelligence? Apparently your knowledge and insights exceed that of the Man who brought the Christian message into the world. Moreover, you are basing your brilliant "deductions" on the extreme anti-Christian doctrines of N**ism.

Put succinctly, you have such a mindless hatred of Christians that you allude to Adolph Hitler's twisted atheistic views in a supremely ignorant attempt to dismiss, out of hand, the True Christian himself.

An attempt to clarify a very important point about Christianity and Christians will, no doubt, prove futile in challenging the supreme spiritual authority of Saint PeterS, but here goes:

Roman pagans first coined the term "Christian". It was their slanderous pejorative to describe the followers of Christ Jesus. There is a vast difference between claiming to be a Christian and those of us who are Disciples of Christ.
What you are really saying here is that you, Peter... (show quote)


Thank you

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