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Feb 1, 2015 02:38:45   #
Ricktloml
 
Holocaust Survivor Booted From Schools

Anita Dittman has been speaking about the Holocaust for more than three decades, telling everyone who will listen of her survival and how Jesus Christ helped her escape the trap that was "Hitler's Hell.'
She has reached thousands through her book, "Trapped in Hitler's Hell:, co-authored with fellow Minnesotan Jan Markell.
And visions of that hell would come back to haunt her at night. "For years, those dreams would not go away" she said. At 87, she still speaks to audiences large and small, sometimes several times a month recounting the story of a happy, 5- year-old Jewish girl when Hitler came to power in 1933 and how life changed over the next 12-and-a-half tears living under N**i rule. She would emerge on the other side of the concentration camps as a young woman of devout Christian faith, severely scarred but full of powerful stories.
For years she kept those stories bottled up inside. It wasn't until she reached her early 50s that they started coming out.
"The response I get today is as enthusiastic as ever." she said in a telephone interview from her home in Minnesota.
This week's commemoration of the 70th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz where 1.1 million Jews met their deaths, gave her cause to reflect once again on life under the N**is. Her message is different now, she says much different than when she first went public in 1978 with her experience as a Holocaust survivor. "When I started speaking in 1978-79, people would ask me, "Do you think it could happen here in this country?" And I said 'Oh no people are used to so much freedom in this country, it could never happen here,''' When they ask me that question now, I say 'It is already happening.'''
Americans are not "disappearing" as in N**i Germany, but Dittman says something has changed. The country I came to in 1946 was very different," she said. "I can't speak in public schools anymore. They won't let me."
When she informs educators that her message will contain strong Christian themes, she usually gets a few seconds of awkward silence. Then a polite rebuff.
One school administrator at a high school in Northern Minnesota contacted her with an invitation to speak, saying she came highly recommended by some students who had heard her speak previously.
"I called him back and left a message and I said I would be honored, just let me know the date and time, and I will be there." Dittman said
"I said, I have to tell you, though, that Christ is in my message."
"Well can't you leave Christ out of it?" the man asked
"He is the one who kept me safe. I can't keep Him out." Dittman responded.
Well, I'm sorry then. You can't come." he said
Many other doors have closed at the mention of the C word.
"The doors were always open to me when I first started out speaking. And I spoke sometimes three, four, five times a day at schools." she said "Once I spoke in five classes, and when I came out of the fourth one, the principal said you don't have to speak to the fifth because they are a rowdy bunch. Well I told him, the Holy Spirit can work wonders, and they ended up being the best class of all. The kids want to hear it, but the higher ups are the problem.
Some schools still allow her to speak but require parents to sign a form saying it's okay for their child to sit through a presentation that contains religious themes. But more often, the parents don't even have a say in the matter, and she is barred upfront from speaking.
"It's getting worse, I tell you" she said "It's so dictating to the parents now. This is how it started in Russia and Germany."
In the days and weeks after Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, Dittman noticed a crack in some of the doors that had been previously closed. The light briefly shined through. "People were so scared and were allowing prayers to be prayed before football games and the doors to the schools were opened wide to me, but I remembered talking to my pastor at the time and saying, "This will change. And it has." she said "It is changing more and and more.
And it is not just public schools where free speech is being curtailed.
Dittman said she has friends on the East coast who have a radio program, and they are being monitored by the federal government. They watch what they say now. "She said please don't use the name of the man that rules our country because they are monitoring our calls," Dittman said. "And they even use f**e names because they already got a warning sent to them."
When asked what, if anything, Christians should be doing to prepare for the day when the "soft" persecution becomes hard, like it did in Germany.
"The importance of faith in God would be the one thing, and the courage to speak up" she said. "I tell some of my students I speak to, even in secular schools, keep your faith, you can lose your homes, your schools, everything, but if you have your faith, you have everything." "Pray to God when the time comes, He will be with you and will see you through. Also memorize scripture because you may not always have a Bible." she said "I lost my Bible during the Russian occupation, but God will remind you of the verses you need when you are in a situation where you are totally dependent on Him and your life is in danger."
When people ask her how she survived, she says it came down to three things: faith, prayer, and humor.
There are many times in the midst of tribulation and deprivation that funny things happened, she said. Like the time she and her friends were hiding out at a farm and the farmer forgot to clean his outhouse. "I went to use the outhouse in the middle of the night," she said "there was a big mound in there, so I did what could quickly but I heard a scratching sound down there. I quickly did my paper work and was wrapping things up when all of a sudden out jumped a chicken! It was crowing. I groped my way back to the house, I was laughing so hard, and I didn't want to wake up the farmer. When I told the other guys what had happened we laughed so hard. So one of the guys called me toilet chicken. That was my name from that point afterward.
Sometimes, she said, God sent help from the most unlikely sources. That was the only way Dittman and four other girls managed to escape the Barthold labor camp, where children of mixed marriages were sent to work digging ditches. When their strength was used up, they were sent to Auschwitz. Dittman had entered the camp in the summer of 1944 and contracted blood poisoning from an infection in her foot. She could hardly walk, having had surgery less than a week before, yet she managed to escape in the middle of a harsh German winter with the help of her friends and later some German soldiers.
Every year on Feb. 11, she and her husband still celebrate her escape from Barthold. "The day I escaped, it was so amazing. WE prayed all night, Five of us girls, we prayed to Jesus, if it was His will would He free us from the hands of our oppressors. And the people He used, I always say were angels without wings," Dittman said "And the German soldiers were some of those angels."
AS she recalls some of those incidents in which strangers helped her, her voice still cracks with emotion.
"Even as I speak, I relive it. That's what makes it more interesting for people. It comes back to me," she said. One woman told me: 'when you talk about the horrors, you are calm, but when you talk about the greatest of God your voice starts to crack.' "It was so enormous how God watched over us and watched over my mother and sister too."
while some jews lost their faith and emerged from the holocaust as atheists, Dittman experienced the opposite. Her faith was strengthened. "I always say if I didn't have faith that would be unusual. It started by hearing the word of God and afterward being tested." she said
That same time of testing will be faced by every Christian at one point or another, she said, as this is what builds faith."Oh yeah, it is coming. And you know it isn't good for parents to pamper their children; you can't tell them everything is going to be hunky dory because it isn't", she said. For that reason, she she does not edit out a lot of details when speaking to groups of young children, "i have spoken to very young kids and the only thing I don't speak about or use is the word rape", she said.
She tells Christian students today what it was like living as a Jew under the N**is. Even before she was hauled off to a labor camp, she dealt with a teacher who gave her poor grades regardless of how well she performed, slapped her hands with a stick and treated her as second class. Her fellow students derided her.
"After school, they would throw horse manure at me, and called me 'Jew brat', she said "mother said don't hit back, just stand firm and pray that the Lord will be with you.
The verbal abuse eventually led to beatings. Then came the knock on the door. She had to say goodbye to her mother, who was dropped off at a synagogue while she, as a young healthy teenager, ended up in a life of hard labor.
The man who led her to Christ when she was about seven years old was a pastor who stood firm against the N**is. In 1934, he wrote a personal letter to Hitler telling him how disappointed he and many others of his colleagues were that Hitler was persecuting the Jews, Dittman said. Later when pastors throughout Germany were placing pictures of Hitler above their altars, her pastor refused.
America needs more pastors like that today, she said "My pastor did belong to a confessional movement, with Dietrich Bonhoeffer and Martin Neimoller; he worked with them against the N**is," she said "How much more bold can a pastor get than to write a personal letter to Hitler?" He came to visit us, he brought us each a Bible, and he said "I'm not forcing you, but I have a love for God's people and I have many Jews in my Bible study. You come to my church. I am not forcing you but you come, and we would love to have you in our church."
Her mother who was steeped in a form of new age mysticism called Theosophy, finally conceded. "she finally got desperate enough and was willing to give up that horrible religion, which is like Hinduism, and go to church." Dittman said. "It was not only his message, but how he lived his life that made the difference. He would not put that picture up over the altar, and he had a wife and five kids to be concerned about. That is the type of faith Christ wants from us today, not to be afraid. So many pastors today are afraid to lose their pension. But today, they have to be careful not to be against gays or lesbians or they could get kicked out of their congregation. They are catering, and they are not supposed to do that. It's hard not to do. Some are even persecuted in their own families for taking a stand."
Dittman says that when anti-Semitism is openly practiced, anti-Christian bigotry is usually right around the corner."It's a known fact where the Jews are not welcome and are persecuted the Christians they come right afterward. They come together and that was the case in Germany." she said "There weren't only Jews in the gas chambers. There were also Christians, Catholic priests, and pastors."
Dittman reminds that Hitler and the N**i party came to power peacefully. The battle for the minds of the people had been going on for years before the N**is consolidated their power and Germany became a dictatorship.
'The problem is a lot of these young guys, they believed everything Hitler told them. He was charismatic and they were pulled into joining the party, and so then when they found out what he was all about they couldn't get out.' she said There is so much today that reminds me of the times of Hitler, because I went through it for twelve and a half years, starting when I was five-and -half. But even then I knew I was not one of the crowd. My mother told me" there will be many kids who will not be allowed to play with me."
Dittman said her mother came to believe in Christ as her Messiah several years after she did, when Dittman was eleven.
Her sister Hella was a different story' Hella made it out of Germany before Anita and her mother, escaping to England.
"My sister pretended on the surface, but when she came to see us in 1961, she didn't want to hear us talk about Christ. She said "O don't need your prayers, and unfortunately three years later she died of cancer" Dittman said MY father was a hardened atheist and when she died he was totally wiped out, and I had a fairly good relationship with him afterward. He also died unsaved, saying, "leave me alone with your religious nonsense'''
For years Dittman lived a normal American life but kept her Holocaust experience mostly to herself. Sometimes. when people asked about her German accent she would tell them where she came from and some of what happened to her.
One of those encounters occurred when she worked at a local library in rural Minnesota.
A man came into the library where I was working, and I told him about my background, he said 'you must speak to people about this.' I said no. I didn't want to do that, and he said, 'Well, I'm going to pray for you. And he must have prayed because it wasn't long after that I starting speaking.'
She had to overcome her fear of public speaking, though.
"Only a couple of times at first, in the small church I was attending. And Jan would record my talks. She said she couldn't write fast enough to get it all down. Dittman said, "And I think it was a relief for me to talk about it."
As she started to relive her story through relating it to others, she noticed the nightmares became more infrequent and eventually stopped.
"That's why it is so important for soldiers. My son was in Viet Nam, so I am familiar with that" she said
So just as she escaped from the trap of Hitler's hell, with help from God, she later escaped from the hell of memories-memories of the N**i nurse who tried to k**l her on a work camp clinic, memories of soldiers who tried to rape her, memories of bones protruding, beatings and the Fuhrer's picture h*****g everywhere.
The stories live on. But they no longer give her nightmares.
Dittman, who will turn 88 in May, prays America will turn from it's current path before it's too late.
Instead of stage fright, she now relishes each opportunity to share her story. She has survived eight surgeries and two heart attacks. "I'm a tough old broad," she said.
But that toughness can melt in a second when she gets her message through to one more child. "One boy came up after I spoke and told me, we have a lot of speakers, but you have Christ in it." And that was the biggest compliment she could receive.
One of the Bible passages Dittman likes is Matthew 5: 43-45
"Christ was talking to people [and] HE said they were taught to love their neighbors and h**e their enemies, "but I say love your enemies," I tell people' this is a heavy passage. This is tough'. she said. God put me to the test, and without His help, I would not be able to pass the test. It's heavy, but it must be done. Dittman had to live this verse out when confronted with the N**i nurse who had earlier tried to k**l her.
I knew when I stood there, and I took my candle and walked closed and recognized her sitting on the mattress weeping I said "Lord, what do you want me to do with her?" And I realized, He wanted me to comfort her I said, 'Lord I can't do that"
The nurse told Dittman that she had been raped several times by the Russian soldiers. She was sobbing. I said 'Lord thank you. You kept me from having to experience that'
"How can you comfort me? Don't you know I tried to k**l you" the nurse said to her. "I told her it was only for Christ's sake" Dittman said "He helped me do it. If it were not for that I could never do it. I am typically human"

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Feb 1, 2015 05:42:21   #
larrypuckett1939
 
RICKTLOM,
YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT COULD HAPPEN HERE. I TAUGHT HISTORY AND GOVERNMENT FOR 43 YEARS, AND I REMEMBER IKE MAKING A STATEMENT WHEN THEY WENT INTO AUSCHWITZ,
" GET LOTS OF PICTURES, BECAUSE 50 YEARS FROM NOW PEOPLE WILL START SAYING IT DIDN'T HAPPEN." (IT), THAT THING IN OUR WHITE
HOUSE IS ONE THOSE PEOPLE! I ALSO REMEMBER A SAYING THAT,
"PEOPLE WHO DON'T LEARN FROM HISTORY, ARE BOUND TO REPEAT IT."
THERE ARE TOO MANY PEOPLE SAYING THE HOLOCAUST DIDN'T HAPPEN, THAT WE WERE NEVER THAT BARBARIC. BET ME!
true patriot


Ricktloml wrote:
Holocaust Survivor Booted From Schools

Anita Dittman has been speaking about the Holocaust for more than three decades, telling everyone who will listen of her survival and how Jesus Christ helped her escape the trap that was "Hitler's Hell.'
She has reached thousands through her book, "Trapped in Hitler's Hell:, co-authored with fellow Minnesotan Jan Markell.
And visions of that hell would come back to haunt her at night. "For years, those dreams would not go away" she said. At 87, she still speaks to audiences large and small, sometimes several times a month recounting the story of a happy, 5- year-old Jewish girl when Hitler came to power in 1933 and how life changed over the next 12-and-a-half tears living under N**i rule. She would emerge on the other side of the concentration camps as a young woman of devout Christian faith, severely scarred but full of powerful stories.
For years she kept those stories bottled up inside. It wasn't until she reached her early 50s that they started coming out.
"The response I get today is as enthusiastic as ever." she said in a telephone interview from her home in Minnesota.
This week's commemoration of the 70th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz where 1.1 million Jews met their deaths, gave her cause to reflect once again on life under the N**is. Her message is different now, she says much different than when she first went public in 1978 with her experience as a Holocaust survivor. "When I started speaking in 1978-79, people would ask me, "Do you think it could happen here in this country?" And I said 'Oh no people are used to so much freedom in this country, it could never happen here,''' When they ask me that question now, I say 'It is already happening.'''
Americans are not "disappearing" as in N**i Germany, but Dittman says something has changed. The country I came to in 1946 was very different," she said. "I can't speak in public schools anymore. They won't let me."
When she informs educators that her message will contain strong Christian themes, she usually gets a few seconds of awkward silence. Then a polite rebuff.
One school administrator at a high school in Northern Minnesota contacted her with an invitation to speak, saying she came highly recommended by some students who had heard her speak previously.
"I called him back and left a message and I said I would be honored, just let me know the date and time, and I will be there." Dittman said
"I said, I have to tell you, though, that Christ is in my message."
"Well can't you leave Christ out of it?" the man asked
"He is the one who kept me safe. I can't keep Him out." Dittman responded.
Well, I'm sorry then. You can't come." he said
Many other doors have closed at the mention of the C word.
"The doors were always open to me when I first started out speaking. And I spoke sometimes three, four, five times a day at schools." she said "Once I spoke in five classes, and when I came out of the fourth one, the principal said you don't have to speak to the fifth because they are a rowdy bunch. Well I told him, the Holy Spirit can work wonders, and they ended up being the best class of all. The kids want to hear it, but the higher ups are the problem.
Some schools still allow her to speak but require parents to sign a form saying it's okay for their child to sit through a presentation that contains religious themes. But more often, the parents don't even have a say in the matter, and she is barred upfront from speaking.
"It's getting worse, I tell you" she said "It's so dictating to the parents now. This is how it started in Russia and Germany."
In the days and weeks after Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, Dittman noticed a crack in some of the doors that had been previously closed. The light briefly shined through. "People were so scared and were allowing prayers to be prayed before football games and the doors to the schools were opened wide to me, but I remembered talking to my pastor at the time and saying, "This will change. And it has." she said "It is changing more and and more.
And it is not just public schools where free speech is being curtailed.
Dittman said she has friends on the East coast who have a radio program, and they are being monitored by the federal government. They watch what they say now. "She said please don't use the name of the man that rules our country because they are monitoring our calls," Dittman said. "And they even use f**e names because they already got a warning sent to them."
When asked what, if anything, Christians should be doing to prepare for the day when the "soft" persecution becomes hard, like it did in Germany.
"The importance of faith in God would be the one thing, and the courage to speak up" she said. "I tell some of my students I speak to, even in secular schools, keep your faith, you can lose your homes, your schools, everything, but if you have your faith, you have everything." "Pray to God when the time comes, He will be with you and will see you through. Also memorize scripture because you may not always have a Bible." she said "I lost my Bible during the Russian occupation, but God will remind you of the verses you need when you are in a situation where you are totally dependent on Him and your life is in danger."
When people ask her how she survived, she says it came down to three things: faith, prayer, and humor.
There are many times in the midst of tribulation and deprivation that funny things happened, she said. Like the time she and her friends were hiding out at a farm and the farmer forgot to clean his outhouse. "I went to use the outhouse in the middle of the night," she said "there was a big mound in there, so I did what could quickly but I heard a scratching sound down there. I quickly did my paper work and was wrapping things up when all of a sudden out jumped a chicken! It was crowing. I groped my way back to the house, I was laughing so hard, and I didn't want to wake up the farmer. When I told the other guys what had happened we laughed so hard. So one of the guys called me toilet chicken. That was my name from that point afterward.
Sometimes, she said, God sent help from the most unlikely sources. That was the only way Dittman and four other girls managed to escape the Barthold labor camp, where children of mixed marriages were sent to work digging ditches. When their strength was used up, they were sent to Auschwitz. Dittman had entered the camp in the summer of 1944 and contracted blood poisoning from an infection in her foot. She could hardly walk, having had surgery less than a week before, yet she managed to escape in the middle of a harsh German winter with the help of her friends and later some German soldiers.
Every year on Feb. 11, she and her husband still celebrate her escape from Barthold. "The day I escaped, it was so amazing. WE prayed all night, Five of us girls, we prayed to Jesus, if it was His will would He free us from the hands of our oppressors. And the people He used, I always say were angels without wings," Dittman said "And the German soldiers were some of those angels."
AS she recalls some of those incidents in which strangers helped her, her voice still cracks with emotion.
"Even as I speak, I relive it. That's what makes it more interesting for people. It comes back to me," she said. One woman told me: 'when you talk about the horrors, you are calm, but when you talk about the greatest of God your voice starts to crack.' "It was so enormous how God watched over us and watched over my mother and sister too."
while some jews lost their faith and emerged from the holocaust as atheists, Dittman experienced the opposite. Her faith was strengthened. "I always say if I didn't have faith that would be unusual. It started by hearing the word of God and afterward being tested." she said
That same time of testing will be faced by every Christian at one point or another, she said, as this is what builds faith."Oh yeah, it is coming. And you know it isn't good for parents to pamper their children; you can't tell them everything is going to be hunky dory because it isn't", she said. For that reason, she she does not edit out a lot of details when speaking to groups of young children, "i have spoken to very young kids and the only thing I don't speak about or use is the word rape", she said.
She tells Christian students today what it was like living as a Jew under the N**is. Even before she was hauled off to a labor camp, she dealt with a teacher who gave her poor grades regardless of how well she performed, slapped her hands with a stick and treated her as second class. Her fellow students derided her.
"After school, they would throw horse manure at me, and called me 'Jew brat', she said "mother said don't hit back, just stand firm and pray that the Lord will be with you.
The verbal abuse eventually led to beatings. Then came the knock on the door. She had to say goodbye to her mother, who was dropped off at a synagogue while she, as a young healthy teenager, ended up in a life of hard labor.
The man who led her to Christ when she was about seven years old was a pastor who stood firm against the N**is. In 1934, he wrote a personal letter to Hitler telling him how disappointed he and many others of his colleagues were that Hitler was persecuting the Jews, Dittman said. Later when pastors throughout Germany were placing pictures of Hitler above their altars, her pastor refused.
America needs more pastors like that today, she said "My pastor did belong to a confessional movement, with Dietrich Bonhoeffer and Martin Neimoller; he worked with them against the N**is," she said "How much more bold can a pastor get than to write a personal letter to Hitler?" He came to visit us, he brought us each a Bible, and he said "I'm not forcing you, but I have a love for God's people and I have many Jews in my Bible study. You come to my church. I am not forcing you but you come, and we would love to have you in our church."
Her mother who was steeped in a form of new age mysticism called Theosophy, finally conceded. "she finally got desperate enough and was willing to give up that horrible religion, which is like Hinduism, and go to church." Dittman said. "It was not only his message, but how he lived his life that made the difference. He would not put that picture up over the altar, and he had a wife and five kids to be concerned about. That is the type of faith Christ wants from us today, not to be afraid. So many pastors today are afraid to lose their pension. But today, they have to be careful not to be against gays or lesbians or they could get kicked out of their congregation. They are catering, and they are not supposed to do that. It's hard not to do. Some are even persecuted in their own families for taking a stand."
Dittman says that when anti-Semitism is openly practiced, anti-Christian bigotry is usually right around the corner."It's a known fact where the Jews are not welcome and are persecuted the Christians they come right afterward. They come together and that was the case in Germany." she said "There weren't only Jews in the gas chambers. There were also Christians, Catholic priests, and pastors."
Dittman reminds that Hitler and the N**i party came to power peacefully. The battle for the minds of the people had been going on for years before the N**is consolidated their power and Germany became a dictatorship.
'The problem is a lot of these young guys, they believed everything Hitler told them. He was charismatic and they were pulled into joining the party, and so then when they found out what he was all about they couldn't get out.' she said There is so much today that reminds me of the times of Hitler, because I went through it for twelve and a half years, starting when I was five-and -half. But even then I knew I was not one of the crowd. My mother told me" there will be many kids who will not be allowed to play with me."
Dittman said her mother came to believe in Christ as her Messiah several years after she did, when Dittman was eleven.
Her sister Hella was a different story' Hella made it out of Germany before Anita and her mother, escaping to England.
"My sister pretended on the surface, but when she came to see us in 1961, she didn't want to hear us talk about Christ. She said "O don't need your prayers, and unfortunately three years later she died of cancer" Dittman said MY father was a hardened atheist and when she died he was totally wiped out, and I had a fairly good relationship with him afterward. He also died unsaved, saying, "leave me alone with your religious nonsense'''
For years Dittman lived a normal American life but kept her Holocaust experience mostly to herself. Sometimes. when people asked about her German accent she would tell them where she came from and some of what happened to her.
One of those encounters occurred when she worked at a local library in rural Minnesota.
A man came into the library where I was working, and I told him about my background, he said 'you must speak to people about this.' I said no. I didn't want to do that, and he said, 'Well, I'm going to pray for you. And he must have prayed because it wasn't long after that I starting speaking.'
She had to overcome her fear of public speaking, though.
"Only a couple of times at first, in the small church I was attending. And Jan would record my talks. She said she couldn't write fast enough to get it all down. Dittman said, "And I think it was a relief for me to talk about it."
As she started to relive her story through relating it to others, she noticed the nightmares became more infrequent and eventually stopped.
"That's why it is so important for soldiers. My son was in Viet Nam, so I am familiar with that" she said
So just as she escaped from the trap of Hitler's hell, with help from God, she later escaped from the hell of memories-memories of the N**i nurse who tried to k**l her on a work camp clinic, memories of soldiers who tried to rape her, memories of bones protruding, beatings and the Fuhrer's picture h*****g everywhere.
The stories live on. But they no longer give her nightmares.
Dittman, who will turn 88 in May, prays America will turn from it's current path before it's too late.
Instead of stage fright, she now relishes each opportunity to share her story. She has survived eight surgeries and two heart attacks. "I'm a tough old broad," she said.
But that toughness can melt in a second when she gets her message through to one more child. "One boy came up after I spoke and told me, we have a lot of speakers, but you have Christ in it." And that was the biggest compliment she could receive.
One of the Bible passages Dittman likes is Matthew 5: 43-45
"Christ was talking to people [and] HE said they were taught to love their neighbors and h**e their enemies, "but I say love your enemies," I tell people' this is a heavy passage. This is tough'. she said. God put me to the test, and without His help, I would not be able to pass the test. It's heavy, but it must be done. Dittman had to live this verse out when confronted with the N**i nurse who had earlier tried to k**l her.
I knew when I stood there, and I took my candle and walked closed and recognized her sitting on the mattress weeping I said "Lord, what do you want me to do with her?" And I realized, He wanted me to comfort her I said, 'Lord I can't do that"
The nurse told Dittman that she had been raped several times by the Russian soldiers. She was sobbing. I said 'Lord thank you. You kept me from having to experience that'
"How can you comfort me? Don't you know I tried to k**l you" the nurse said to her. "I told her it was only for Christ's sake" Dittman said "He helped me do it. If it were not for that I could never do it. I am typically human"
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Feb 1, 2015 05:54:53   #
Orrie
 
Thank you for your powerful testimony of what God has done in your life.

I agree that what had happened to the Jews before and during WWII can take place here in America. The signs are appearing now and continue to increase. Religious freedom is now being suppressed. Prayer is no longer allowed in Public Schools, Merry Christmas is replaced with Happy Holiday and the Pledge to our American F**g is restricted. America has become a Police State where we are spied on constantly by the government.

If we do not stand up for God and our God given rights we will find ourselves in a Fema Prison Camp wondering why we didn't speak out against those who are removing our freedoms.

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Feb 1, 2015 07:55:23   #
Kachina
 
That was a powerful post! Thank you for sharing this nightmare and I pray that this country changes course before it is too late. I too see how we can no longer talk about God in public or in schools and that our press is limited and restricted by what they can report. Our founding fathers are crying in heaven over the way this country has turned. If I could talk my adult kids to move to another country, I would in an instant. I am very dismayed and concerned about our future here.

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Feb 1, 2015 08:04:42   #
nemo
 
This is another reason why Jendal is speaking for our Country.

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Feb 1, 2015 20:01:07   #
Ricktloml
 
Orrie wrote:
Thank you for your powerful testimony of what God has done in your life.

I agree that what had happened to the Jews before and during WWII can take place here in America. The signs are appearing now and continue to increase. Religious freedom is now being suppressed. Prayer is no longer allowed in Public Schools, Merry Christmas is replaced with Happy Holiday and the Pledge to our American F**g is restricted. America has become a Police State where we are spied on constantly by the government.

If we do not stand up for God and our God given rights we will find ourselves in a Fema Prison Camp wondering why we didn't speak out against those who are removing our freedoms.
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It is a powerful testimony, but it is not mine, I read this article and thought it should be shared. Sorry I forgot to credit the author

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Feb 1, 2015 21:00:49   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Ricktloml wrote:
It is a powerful testimony, but it is not mine, I read this article and thought it should be shared. Sorry I forgot to credit the author


Please give us a link to this story. It is a very good one but not one of our left leaners and atheists will look it up since it tells us too much about what they are preparing to do to us. I have always wondered if I could use a gun to take the life of a human being but do know that when the day comes I don't think it will be hard. I may be put in some kind of camp but if some of them go with me before they get me I will be consoled.

I am sure that this forum is full of those who don't think that those prison camps ever existed because they have been taught by other atheists that they never existed. I saw some places like that in Germany in 1956. I guess, although the Germans had already repaired so many of their totally destroyed places from the war maybe they just didn't want people to see what they had done. Those people were so much against ever rearming their government that when they started doing it they just didn't hide from beating the hell out of the soldiers. I got to take part more than once of beating civilians off the backs of the new soldiers.

We need links to things like this because so many people really don't know whether to believe it or not. I am sure that the pictures I saw in Life magazine weren't dreamed up to influence his. I was 12 when WW II ended and never did think that any of those horrible things had been staged.

We can, so easily, see this kind of thing coming here and too much of what they are using involves race too.

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Feb 1, 2015 22:20:28   #
Ricktloml
 
oldroy wrote:
Please give us a link to this story. It is a very good one but not one of our left leaners and atheists will look it up since it tells us too much about what they are preparing to do to us. I have always wondered if I could use a gun to take the life of a human being but do know that when the day comes I don't think it will be hard. I may be put in some kind of camp but if some of them go with me before they get me I will be consoled.

I am sure that this forum is full of those who don't think that those prison camps ever existed because they have been taught by other atheists that they never existed. I saw some places like that in Germany in 1956. I guess, although the Germans had already repaired so many of their totally destroyed places from the war maybe they just didn't want people to see what they had done. Those people were so much against ever rearming their government that when they started doing it they just didn't hide from beating the hell out of the soldiers. I got to take part more than once of beating civilians off the backs of the new soldiers.

We need links to things like this because so many people really don't know whether to believe it or not. I am sure that the pictures I saw in Life magazine weren't dreamed up to influence his. I was 12 when WW II ended and never did think that any of those horrible things had been staged.

We can, so easily, see this kind of thing coming here and too much of what they are using involves race too.
Please give us a link to this story. It is a very... (show quote)


It was published on WND, I believe on the 28th of Jan. The author is Leo Hohmann. I have been noticing an appalling amount of parallels between what is happening right here, right now in America, and what happened in N**i Germany before WWII. Obviously someone who actually LIVED the horror of those times is seeing the same thing.

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Feb 2, 2015 00:41:08   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Ricktloml wrote:
It was published on WND, I believe on the 28th of Jan. The author is Leo Hohmann. I have been noticing an appalling amount of parallels between what is happening right here, right now in America, and what happened in N**i Germany before WWII. Obviously someone who actually LIVED the horror of those times is seeing the same thing.


I did some reading on Google to find out who the author was and couldn't find any of it other than what was on WND. Now how many left leaners would admit that anything from WND could be reasonably true. I read comments on some sites and always at least one lefty jumped in to make noise about that as a source.

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Feb 2, 2015 01:15:23   #
Ricktloml
 
oldroy wrote:
I did some reading on Google to find out who the author was and couldn't find any of it other than what was on WND. Now how many left leaners would admit that anything from WND could be reasonably true. I read comments on some sites and always at least one lefty jumped in to make noise about that as a source.


Anita Dittman did write a book about her ordeal. There was no internet link that I could find. The left rejects anything that disagrees with their preconceived ideas, Unfortunately the only ones who are willing to point out the t***h are those not spewing the propaganda of the left, so they wouldn't listen to what would present an alternative view

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Feb 2, 2015 06:34:12   #
larrypuckett1939
 
RICKTLOML,
TAKE IT FROM A 43 YEAR TEACHER OF HISTORY AND GOVERNMENT.
(IT) IS FOLLOWING THE EXACT SAME PATH THAT HITLER DID, AND QUITE FRANKLY, IT SCARES ME. I CAN SEE WHAT'S COMING DOWN THE TRACK, AND IT IS NOT THE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL.
true patriot


Ricktloml wrote:
Anita Dittman did write a book about her ordeal. There was no internet link that I could find. The left rejects anything that disagrees with their preconceived ideas, Unfortunately the only ones who are willing to point out the t***h are those not spewing the propaganda of the left, so they wouldn't listen to what would present an alternative view

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Feb 2, 2015 20:35:05   #
Ricktloml
 
larrypuckett1939 wrote:
RICKTLOML,
TAKE IT FROM A 43 YEAR TEACHER OF HISTORY AND GOVERNMENT.
(IT) IS FOLLOWING THE EXACT SAME PATH THAT HITLER DID, AND QUITE FRANKLY, IT SCARES ME. I CAN SEE WHAT'S COMING DOWN THE TRACK, AND IT IS NOT THE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL.
true patriot


It is appalling isn't it?! This isn't ancient history, yet people are falling for the same tired lies the left has always used. Plus the left depends on apathy. I guess that's why they are called useful I***TS.

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Feb 2, 2015 20:54:59   #
PeterS
 
Ricktloml wrote:
Holocaust Survivor Booted From Schools

Anita Dittman has been speaking about the Holocaust for more than three decades, telling everyone who will listen of her survival and how Jesus Christ helped her escape the trap that was "Hitler's Hell.'

Proselytizing has long been frowned upon in public schools. The good new is that she is welcome to proselytize at private events and Christian schools--as it should be in a country founded on religious freedom. What I am confused about is how people think the holocaust is being forgotten simply because she isn't allow to tell how it was Christ that save her in our public schools? Is that the only forum for which the holocaust is taught in our public schools?

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Feb 2, 2015 20:57:37   #
PeterS
 
larrypuckett1939 wrote:
RICKTLOML,
TAKE IT FROM A 43 YEAR TEACHER OF HISTORY AND GOVERNMENT.
(IT) IS FOLLOWING THE EXACT SAME PATH THAT HITLER DID, AND QUITE FRANKLY, IT SCARES ME. I CAN SEE WHAT'S COMING DOWN THE TRACK, AND IT IS NOT THE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL.
true patriot

Hitler thought his actions were sanctioned by Christ so how is this the same path he used?

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Feb 2, 2015 21:04:35   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Orrie wrote:
Thank you for your powerful testimony of what God has done in your life.

I agree that what had happened to the Jews before and during WWII can take place here in America. The signs are appearing now and continue to increase. Religious freedom is now being suppressed. Prayer is no longer allowed in Public Schools, Merry Christmas is replaced with Happy Holiday and the Pledge to our American F**g is restricted. America has become a Police State where we are spied on constantly by the government.

If we do not stand up for God and our God given rights we will find ourselves in a Fema Prison Camp wondering why we didn't speak out against those who are removing our freedoms.
Thank you for your powerful testimony of what God ... (show quote)


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