Conservatism In America
Jun 26, 2013 09:13:15 #
I would just like to start by asserting how I will never understand how a great portion of our citizens think it is sound, logical and good faithed human relations to be in favor of judging the values of the masses when it the behaviors of those in question have no adverse affect on them whatsoever. Furthermore, how can honest hard working low and middle income people be tricked into supporting policies (conservative) that are against their best interests. I don't get it.
Jun 26, 2013 09:15:22 #
Jun 26, 2013 10:09:37 #
AfricanAtheist wrote:
I would just like to start by asserting how I will never understand how a great portion of our citizens think it is sound, logical and good faithed human relations to be in favor of judging the values of the masses when it the behaviors of those in question have no adverse affect on them whatsoever. Furthermore, how can honest hard working low and middle income people be tricked into supporting policies (conservative) that are against their best interests. I don't get it.
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Do you see anything wrong with having laws against murder even though you've never been murdered? Do you see anything wrong with laws against p********a even though you are grown and have no children?
Do you honestly BELIEVE that crude behavior, crude language, raunchy films, sex deviates have "no adverse affect whatsoever on society as a whole?" IF you do believe that, then you must not be more than 20 years old. Do you honestly believe that you are untouched by others' behaviors which are public? Others' behavior in private doesn't affect others. When they make it public, that is another story altogether. It changes our society, and many of us prefer a decent society rather than a rude, crude, anything goes society in which our children grow up.
Color me a proud conservative who doesn't give a hoot what you do in private with another consenting adult, but DOES care when you must continuously bring it into the public. Color me a proud conservative who loves life enough to put a fetus' life ahead of the convenience of an irresponsible adult.
Jun 26, 2013 11:33:59 #
The low & middle income people are a lot more intelligent then you think. They realize that the so called free gifts of government are not free but come with the high cost of high taxes, inflation and bankruption of them, their children & grand children and loss of jobs for the people who want to work and the jobs are gone to out sourced businesses.
Jun 26, 2013 11:51:05 #
LAwrence wrote:
The low & middle income people are a lot more intelligent then you think. They realize that the so called free gifts of government are not free but come with the high cost of high taxes, inflation and bankruption of them, their children & grand children and loss of jobs for the people who want to work and the jobs are gone to out sourced businesses.
We are mature enough to realize that very few things in life are free, and NOTHING from government is free. SOMEONE pays for it, and government has no money except what it takes from us with threat of jail if we don't hand it over. Don't you love freedom?! :hunf:
Jun 26, 2013 12:40:02 #
My African Atheist you and your idiocy really have no place in this America. Your Liberal policies are atheist vs our Constitution which was founded upon divine principles. Even Carl Marx wrote that the goal of the C*******ts was to quote,. "enter into men's minds and cast God down from his throne." You are making a fatal assumption when you claim the majority of American citizens judge the values of the masses and claim that their behaviors will not have any effect upon them? George Santayana said "Our character...is an omen of our destiny, and the more integrity we have and keep, the simpler and nobler that destiny is likely to be. Under your atheism we are not nurturing and bonding with our families, or our fellow countrymen. This is right out of your manifesto - get the kids - grab the news media - the pop-culture - Tell lies - tell them big- keep telling them and eventually the masses will believe your poisonous fatalism.
Atheist Government has no power to contend with human passions, and morality. This Constitution which you and your ilk despise was made only for a moral and religious people.
Support it are get the hell out of this Country. I can assure you that the pendulum is reaching its negative point and will swing back from fatalism to Moralism. My Hero Milton Friedman sums it up!
Wh**ever its failings and faults, its errors and misjudgments, the high moral stature of liberalism has remained beyond dispute. Liberalism stands as the political expression of humanism, a doctrine epitomizing justice and mercy, the embodiment of human decency in the public sphere.
But it is no such thing. "Liberalism k**ls," argues J.R. Dunn -- and he means that literally. "Liberalism destroys lives, and destroys them in large numbers." Now, in Death by Liberalism: The Fatal Outcome of Well-Meaning Liberal Policies, he shows you how.
Dunn's deliberative account takes no cheap shots, but relies on hard data and reasoned arguments to demonstrate that liberal policies in such areas as criminal justice reform, federal fuel standards, child "protection" agencies, urban renewal and environmental regulations have k**led up to 500,000 Americans over the past fifty years.
And there may well be worse coming, argues Dunn: ObamaCare alone, through its destruction of the existing health care system, its leveling of all forms of treatment, and its slavish imitation of the dysfunctional British NHS, threatens up to 450,000 lives per year.
Atheist Government has no power to contend with human passions, and morality. This Constitution which you and your ilk despise was made only for a moral and religious people.
Support it are get the hell out of this Country. I can assure you that the pendulum is reaching its negative point and will swing back from fatalism to Moralism. My Hero Milton Friedman sums it up!
Wh**ever its failings and faults, its errors and misjudgments, the high moral stature of liberalism has remained beyond dispute. Liberalism stands as the political expression of humanism, a doctrine epitomizing justice and mercy, the embodiment of human decency in the public sphere.
But it is no such thing. "Liberalism k**ls," argues J.R. Dunn -- and he means that literally. "Liberalism destroys lives, and destroys them in large numbers." Now, in Death by Liberalism: The Fatal Outcome of Well-Meaning Liberal Policies, he shows you how.
Dunn's deliberative account takes no cheap shots, but relies on hard data and reasoned arguments to demonstrate that liberal policies in such areas as criminal justice reform, federal fuel standards, child "protection" agencies, urban renewal and environmental regulations have k**led up to 500,000 Americans over the past fifty years.
And there may well be worse coming, argues Dunn: ObamaCare alone, through its destruction of the existing health care system, its leveling of all forms of treatment, and its slavish imitation of the dysfunctional British NHS, threatens up to 450,000 lives per year.
Jun 26, 2013 14:05:58 #
ldsuttonjr wrote:
My African Atheist you and your idiocy really have... (show quote)
And we sit and watch it happen - just like the Jews in Germany. They didn't know what to do about it..........just like we apparently don't. Phone calls don't work. Writing letters doesn't work. Demonstrations don't work. Complaints don't work. Courts don't work. The b****t box doesn't work. I see one thing that has a snowflake's chance of working, and only one thing.
Jun 26, 2013 14:26:52 #
Tasine wrote:
And we sit and watch it happen - just like the Jews in Germany. They didn't know what to do about it..........just like we apparently don't. Phone calls don't work. Writing letters doesn't work. Demonstrations don't work. Complaints don't work. Courts don't work. The b****t box doesn't work. I see one thing that has a snowflake's chance of working, and only one thing.
As much as I fought against that "one thing" over the many years, I'm afraid you're right.
Jun 26, 2013 14:43:16 #
Think about it Tasine; Just the name of this individual says it all. We are just being baited with this crap just to get our blood pressure up - we are in the majority - but fighting a serious battle! Socialism is total misery - the Free-market and moral compass will win out.
Jun 26, 2013 15:23:42 #
The lawws you are talking about have victims. Maybe I didn't specify but I was referring to victimless behaviors that affect no one.
Jun 26, 2013 15:23:44 #
The lawws you are talking about have victims. Maybe I didn't specify but I was referring to victimless behaviors that affect no one.
Jun 26, 2013 15:23:47 #
The lawws you are talking about have victims. Maybe I didn't specify but I was referring to victimless behaviors that affect no one.
Jun 26, 2013 15:27:28 #
The matters I speak of are are not crude. I'm talking about marriage, deciding when to start a family or what one chooses to do or for to themselves. The is no argument against this other than a religious one & we all no that argument has no basis in fact.
Jun 26, 2013 15:30:50 #
My family has been in this country probably longer than yours so perhaps you should leave. First of all many founders of this nation were non-religious, I.E Jefferson, Franklin etc... Secondly, humanity has gained a plethora of knowledge since that time & it appears pretty obvious that religious references are nothing more than superstitious answers to the unknown. No one has the answers to the questions religion claims to but a closed mind won't help us find them.
Jun 26, 2013 15:34:56 #
Also, remember you can tell alot about a society by how it treats their worst off. I don't understand the humanism of conservatives as a whole. However, when it comes to me personally I'm liberal about some things and yet conservative about others but when it comes to other individuals I try to refrain from having an opinion just because they are doing something I wouldn't. Freedom means people have the right to be and think differently.
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