Grace Adams

The twelve hottest years on record have been in the last fifteen years. That is some evidence that g****l w*****g exists. As for human activity being a contributing factor, even though the Milankovic cycles and solar radiance cycles might account for something like 90% of c*****e c****e, human activity like all the f****l f**l we have burned lately is having some effect, and is something we ought to be able to do something about. Our armed forces are happy with Algae Systems bio-diesel; it works in diesel engines and can be further processed to make gasoline and aviation fuel, etc. I figure it should take about twenty years of making new, mostly wind, some solar, some geothermal, some energy storage, some smart grid electronics, to replace older equipment which does wear out eventually anyhow. It will be necessary to buy f****l f**l as reserves, both to placate the f****l f**l firms and to prevent them from selling it to someone who will burn it. Electricity is regulated at the state level. State regulators will need to be convinced that raising electric rates to cover both new renewable energy equipment and buying f****l f**l as reserves to prevent it being bought by someone else to burn, will help farmers in their state enough to be worth the extra cost to electric rate payers. Most consumers buy electricity from utilities; only those with above average incomes can buy their own solar power system even with subsidies and financing.

Grace Adams

1) I am retired on Social Security with very little savings to invest in anything and don't dare invest in anything more exotic than a bank CD.
2) If it becomes viable, the oil firms will want to grab all of it for themselves, either to make it themselves or to be a dog in the manger and prevent anybody else for getting any benefit from it.

alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa

maybe you can explain to this dummy just why burning bio diesel will cause any less damage than burning other diesel. then maybe you can explain where we will get the asphalt to build roads and the plastics that we use for most everything we use and then there are the medicines we use and the list goes on but you liberals get one idea in that pea sized brain and thats all you can see

alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa

I don't know if you were responding to me since you couldn't hit quote reply but this may help you if you don;t want the oil companies to get control get some of your friends togather and start a company of your own I also am retired and on s/s but I don't expect you to support me

Grace Adams

Algae Systems uses Global Thermostat to capture CO2 from atmosphere; then they feed it to algae along with municipal waste water, then press algae for oil and use lye to separate the bio-diesel from glycerin, then roast the oil cake to produce bio-char (carbon store and soil amendment to help crops survive drought better), fertilizer, heat to run a turbine for electricity, salt, and potable water. So with each batch of bio-diesel half of the carbon captured from air is recycled as more bio-diesel and half is stored as bio-char which lasts decades while helping crops survive drought.

Grace Adams

Oil firms are big and powerful enough to put any competition out of business. Also I am more interested in food to eat than in liquid fuel for t***sportation--but know our civilization needs both. I hope we can start taking CO2 out of air enough to get greenhouse gases back below 400 ppm then below 350 ppm so climate will settle down.

TheCracker

Grace. When you wrote; "The twelve hottest years on record have been in the last fifteen years. That is some evidence that g****l w*****g exists. As for human activity being a contributing factor, even though the Milankovic cycles and solar radiance cycles might account for something like 90% of c*****e c****e...." I take strong exception.

First. Both you and Obama used the words "on record"... When talking about g****l w*****g. Be advised that paleontological research has found and identified the remains of various dinosaurs way up north on what is now the frozen tundra of Alaska. Hint. dinosaurs required a more tropical climate to survive, freezing was not a viable option. Couple that with the Ice age and even the most reluctant must admit a weather cycle of warming, then cooling, then warming again which was long before the industrial age.

Second. How much petroleum is there on the earth? How much natural gas? In short, nobody knows, because their estimates are all model-dependent. If their model is that petroleum is a f****l f**l, then their predicted total amount depends ultimately on the amount of biomass of past eons that has been converted into petroleum. There would be a finite amount that, once burned up, would simply be gone.

If the predictor's model says that natural gas is a remnant of the earth’s primordial atmosphere, then the total amount of natural gas remaining might be huge, enough to last for many millennia.

If the model says that petroleum is being continuously created from elements residing miles deep within the earth, then there will always be some available, and could conceivably be created faster than humans burn it up.

Thomas Gold,1 Professor Emeritus at Cornell is a champion of this view.

So; Anyone (Like Obama, etc.) who keeps trying to sell that lemon of their model car is, at best either dumber than a rock or thinks the rest of us are.

Think about it.

alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa

plant some trees

alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa

I just heard the guy that started the weather channel state there had been no warming for the past seventeen years

Lasher Loc: Georgia

Trusting your money to a bank might be the worst decision you ever made.

Lasher Loc: Georgia

There are more trees in the United States today than there were when it was discovered by Columbus.

Lasher Loc: Georgia

You are correct that it is a natural cycle that comes and goes.

alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa

so, plant more it will reduce co2

Lasher Loc: Georgia

But that would increase the oxygen. Don't we have enough oxygen now?

alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa

not if we have too much co2