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Jan 25, 2015 23:54:43   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Ricktloml wrote:
Maybe since Obama, Holder and every liberal that opens their mouths lies continually he thinks this is just another lie from the serial crop of liars in DC.
Do you really think 3jack believes that his little tin gods are liars? He was attacking the poster who started this thread.

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Jan 26, 2015 00:03:56   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
Ricktloml wrote:
Maybe since Obama, Holder and every liberal that opens their mouths lies continually he thinks this is just another lie from the serial crop of liars in DC.


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Jan 26, 2015 00:11:48   #
Mollypitcher1
 
The Dimwits will continue to try to come up with something leading to gun registry by any means possible. The best thing to do is to remain vigilant and prepared. Long live "Shall not be infringed!"

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Jan 26, 2015 00:31:23   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
Mollypitcher1 wrote:
The Dimwits will continue to try to come up with something leading to gun registry by any means possible. The best thing to do is to remain vigilant and prepared. Long live "Shall not be infringed!"


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Jan 26, 2015 01:00:04   #
moldyoldy
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Do you really think 3jack believes that his little tin gods are liars? He was attacking the poster who started this thread.

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“I think that one of the things that we learned when we were trying to get passed those common sense reforms last year, Vice President Biden and I had a meeting with a group of technology people and we talked about how guns can be made more safe,” he said.

“By making them either through finger print identification, the gun talks to a bracelet or something that you might wear, how guns can be used only by the person who is lawfully in possession of the weapon.”

“It’s those kinds of things that I think we want to try to explore so that we can make sure that people have the ability to enjoy their Second Amendment rights, but at the same time decreasing the misuse of weapons that lead to the kinds of things that we see on a daily basis,” Holder said.

The Justice Department has requested $382.1 million in increased spending for its fiscal year 2014 budget for “gun safety.”

Included in the proposal is $2 million for “Gun Safety Technology” grants, which would award prizes for technologies that are “proven to be reliable and effective.”

President Barack Obama’s budget proposal also calls for $1.1 billion to “protect Americans from gun violence—including $182 million to support the president’s ‘Now is the Time’ gun safety initiative.”

A recent innovation allows a gun owner to only unlock a safe with a fingerprint scan and an “RFID-equipped bracelet.”

Others have suggested manufacturing GPS tracking and RFID chips into every gun. RFID chips t***smit location data and are used by law enforcement agencies to send automatic alerts if a weapon moves away from the tracker, indicating that the gun is lost or stolen.

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Jan 26, 2015 01:58:55   #
RETW Loc: Washington
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Weird, ain't it? Liberals want to create a "smart gun" that can be fired only by a registered owner, yet every time a high-profile shooting occurs, anti-gun liberals wail about guns having minds of their own.

Two things I can say with absolute certainty. One, my guns are extremely smart. They never do anything without my permission; I have total control over their behavior.

And, two, I do not need nor will I ever accept a bracelet or fingerprint scanner installed on my guns. I don't need their permission to shoot them.

One other thing, I never have shot nor do I ever intend to shoot something or someone who doesn't deserve it.

"It is better to have a gun and not need it than to not have one if you ever do." Colonel Jeff Cooper
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Jan 26, 2015 03:10:17   #
L8erToots
 
Armageddun wrote:
What a great quote. "When you think it’s time to bury your guns, it’s really time to dig them up.”



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Jan 26, 2015 03:58:44   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
moldyoldy wrote:
“It’s those kinds of things that I think we want to try to explore so that we can make sure that people have the ability to enjoy their Second Amendment rights, but at the same time decreasing the misuse of weapons that lead to the kinds of things that we see on a daily basis,” Holder said.
First of all, I have been enjoying my 2nd Amendment rights since I was 5 years old and in all that time, a million rounds out of the muzzles, I never "misused" my "weapons." I have never intentionally or accidentally wounded or k**led anyone.

Secondly, with this statement, Holder is blowing a cloud of smoke. The phrase "misuse of weapons" is a euphemism for "violent crime". The idea that developing smart gun technology will decrease gun related violence is ludicrous. As with every other technology, the criminal mind will find a way around it. Moreover, the very thought that the "smart gun" would ever become universal is utterly laughable.

Holder has stated his real objectives regarding citizen gun ownership, and this comment about smart gun technology is nothing more than his reaction to the blowback he got from legal gun owners. Holder, like his boss, is a conniving deceiver. I ain't buying his bulls**t. Seal the borders to gun acquisition, take measures to make it more and more difficult for CRIMINALS and the MENTALLY DISTURBED to obtain firearms. Do that, and the number of shootings on the streets, the Columbines and Sandy Hooks, will decrease. Though they will never be stopped completely.

Restricting gun ownership by law-abiding Americans, as statistics and studies have shown, has the opposite results. More Guns, Less Crime, by Professor John Lott is one such study.

"An armed society is a polite society."

Banning lawful private ownership is an entirely different ball game. One that has a terrible historical record.

Admittedly, there are some number of well-meaning individuals out there who legally purchase a gun, but fail to accept the responsibility for ownership, and who do not spend the time and money to educate themselves. I've had many encounters with these types, and, yes, some of them were truly stupid. But whenever I could, if the opportunity was there, I pointed them in the right direction, either offering to train them myself or recommending a formal firearms training program.

I have attended many gun shows, at some of which there were thousands of firearms openly displayed on tables and in racks, where maybe a million rounds of ammo sat on tables and shelves, and where an estimated 5000 people passed through during the day. They handled firearms, checked them out, worked the actions, and even pulled triggers. They discussed, negotiated, traded and, God forbid, bought guns and ammo. And, funnily enough, not a shot was fired, not a person wounded or k**led. How the hell does one explain that?

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Jan 26, 2015 04:34:50   #
PeterS
 
bobebgtime wrote:
Attorney General told a House subcommittee they are considering “gun-tracking bracelets” as a “common sense” way to reduce gun violence.

Eric Holder said the Obama Administration is looking at several technological innovations to reduce the number of stolen guns being used in crime.“I think that one of the things that we learned when we were trying to get passed those common sense reforms last year, Vice President Biden and I had a meeting with a group of technology people and we talked about how guns can be made more safe,” he said.“By making them either through finger print identification, the gun talks to a bracelet or something that you might wear, how guns can be used only by the person who is lawfully in possession of the weapon.”

“It’s those kinds of things that I think we want to try to explore so that we can make sure that people have the ability to enjoy their Second Amendment rights, but at the same time decreasing the misuse of weapons that lead to the kinds of things that we see on a daily basis,” Holder said.As far as I know, the only people required to wear trackable devices are criminals on house arrest.

Holder seems to view legal gun owners the same way. In this Administration’s twisted world, forcing law-abiding citizens to wear tracking.
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How does wearing a bracelet track a gun? Don't the two need to be connected somehow? And if you are like my father-in-law and have several hundred guns does that mean he is going to have to wear hundreds of bracelets? No wonder liberal ideas never work!

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Jan 26, 2015 05:15:25   #
PeterS
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Holder has stated his real objectives regarding citizen gun ownership, and this comment about smart gun technology is nothing more than his reaction to the blowback he got from legal gun owners. Holder, like his boss, is a conniving deceiver. I ain't buying his bulls**t. Seal the borders to gun acquisition, take measures to make it more and more difficult for CRIMINALS and the MENTALLY DISTURBED to obtain firearms. Do that, and the number of shootings on the streets, the Columbines and Sandy Hooks, will decrease. Though they will never be stopped completely.
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Take measures to make it more difficult for the mentally disturbed an criminals to obtain guns? You're joking right! First off, what qualifies as mentally disturbed? In this country one mans nut case is another mans patriot. And sense when does a nut not have a right to protect themselves? As for keeping guns out of criminals hands there are as many guns in this country as there are people and millions more guns made each year. If criminals aren't stealing them out of homes or cars then there is always going to be someone willing to make a quick buck and doesn't give a fu#k who they sell too. And then there is the issue that no matter what is suggested by the left it will be treated just as this "bracelet" was and totally distorted then wrapped in a lie and fed to the right-wing lunatics who eagerly gobble it up to use as further justification for their paranoia and hatred for the government. And we all know damn good and well that no right wing politician can suggest any type of regulation else they are labeled RINO's and they are out in the next e******n cycle. So to me this seems like a situation that is long past a workable solution with the only thing left to do is pray that the next child massacred belongs to someone else and is not ours...

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Jan 26, 2015 05:31:52   #
PeterS
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Do you really think 3jack believes that his little tin gods are liars? He was attacking the poster who started this thread.

Only because the poster printed misinformation. Had he printed what Holder actually said Jack wouldn't have had any grounds to attack him on.

What puzzles me is that when it comes to Obama conservatives view the t***h with the same h**e as a lie so why go to all the trouble to spread misinformation? Here the poster could have printed the original AP story and been done with it. Ah, but then I guess you would have to trust someone other then your vetted right-wing propaganda factory who we all know would never deceive you would they.

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Jan 26, 2015 07:18:09   #
zilla
 
Holder's a criminal himself !!! Let him wear a tracking bracelet, & leave LEGAL gun owners alone. WHY ISN'T HE GOING AFTER THE PEOPLE WHO SELL GUNS TO CRIMINALS ?

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Jan 26, 2015 08:19:06   #
wyomingwelder
 
Holder is one f@cked up dude. He should be in jail . We impeached a president of the US for lying before congress. He double talks everytime his mouth opens.if the current adminastration wishs to take the guns in the US they need to start with thier own security. The peoe who want the gims the worst have private armed security. And appearently non .of his slaff can read. Start with the second ammendment.

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Jan 26, 2015 08:36:35   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
Armageddun wrote:
This is insane, even in today's technical world this would be a nightmare to setup, maintain, and enforce..

Have you ever met anyone who views Holder - or anyone else in this very strange "administration" - SANE?!?!?! And you won't, because they are all, in my view, psychopaths.

psychopath: a person with a psychopathic personality, which manifests as amoral and antisocial behavior, lack of ability to love or establish meaningful personal relationships, extreme egocentricity, failure to learn from experience, etc.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/psychopath?s=t

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Jan 26, 2015 08:39:08   #
MRWoelich
 
You know when Obama or any other Politician is Lying ... Their Lips move!!!

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