Legislating Morality (Page 2): Do you believe that everyone who has read the Bible has come to the same conclusions?

RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit

Parky60 wrote:

Read the Bible -- although it will do you little good until you believe -- and you'll find out what God's standards of morality are doofus.

Do you believe that everyone who has read the Bible has come to the same conclusions?

Sonny Magoo Loc: Where pot pie is boiled in a kettle

NotMAGA wrote:

That does not answer the question posed.

The real questions should be centered on why the issue exists.
But, no you CAN'T legislate morality. "A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still"

NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county

Sonny Magoo wrote:

The real questions should be centered on why the issue exists.
But, no you CAN'T legislate morality. "A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still"

Yes. This is all I'm saying. And yet we keep trying

I guess the real question is - do we, as Americans, really WANT to legislate morality and what to impose punishments for?

Do not murder. Sure.
Do not steal. Also, sure
Lying in court, or testifying to congress... Also bad

What else?

Lily

NotMAGA wrote:

He who?

You.

Rose42

NotMAGA wrote:

People have different interpretations of what is meant by some passages.

People also tend to cherry pick and ignore what they don’t like. They also create an alternate Jesus without any talk of repentance or consequences for sin.

NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county

LogicallyRight wrote:

***Does anyone condone the beatings and k*****gs that have occurred here in the US to young gay men simply because they are gay? (I hope not!)

>>>You're safe on Opp. We won't k**l you.

Be tough to reach through the screen.

NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county

Rose42 wrote:

People also tend to cherry pick and ignore what they don’t like. They also create an alternate Jesus without any talk of repentance or consequences for sin.

In the Gospels, Jesus talks more about forgiveness of sin. More love than h**e.

Not until Revelation does He appear with the flaming sword

Rose42

NotMAGA wrote:

In the Gospels, Jesus talks more about forgiveness of sin. More love than h**e.

Not until Revelation does He appear with the flaming sword

You are proving my point.

He spoke a lot about the consequences of sin without repentance.

Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.

NotMAGA wrote:

Yes. This is all I'm saying. And yet we keep trying

I guess the real question is - do we, as Americans, really WANT to legislate morality and what to impose punishments for?

Do not murder. Sure.
Do not steal. Also, sure
Lying in court, or testifying to congress... Also bad

What else?

There is a need to legislate some morality in many situations. Personally I believe behavior based on religious morality must also meet constitutional/societal morality in order to allow legislation. You can not step on the constitutional rights of others. Pedofillla is illegal. Infidelity is not. Murder is illegal. Self defence is not. Destruction of someone's property is illegal. Destruction of your own is not.

Liberty Tree

NotMAGA wrote:

In the Gospels, Jesus talks more about forgiveness of sin. More love than h**e.

Not until Revelation does He appear with the flaming sword

He spoke of being cast into outer darkness where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth.

David L Loc: Central Wisconsin

NotMAGA wrote:

In the Gospels, Jesus talks more about forgiveness of sin. More love than h**e.

Not until Revelation does He appear with the flaming sword

I guess you missed the parts where He says, "Go and sin no more."

American Vet

NotMAGA wrote:

Should any government have the right to legislate ... (show quote)

A******ns are k*****g a human.

Homosexuality is not illegal in America.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Parky60 wrote:

Read the Bible -- although it will do you little good until you believe -- and you'll find out what God's standards of morality are doofus.

RascalRiley wrote:

Do you believe that everyone who has read the Bible has come to the same conclusions?

That depends on whether or not you believe there is an absolute, objective moral referent.
The Bible has clearly provided such a referent.

If you believe the Bible is just a fairy tale and that God is a man-made concept,
then morality is subjective and can be anything you want it to be.

NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county

David L wrote:

I guess you missed the parts where He says, "Go and sin no more."

No. I remember. It was what he said after he forgave her.And after challenging the crowd who condemned her. "Let he whobis without sin among throw the first stone."

Ever think about what He might have been writing in the sand as He waited for a response?

RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit

Blade_Runner wrote:

That depends on whether or not you believe there is an absolute, objective moral referent.
The Bible has clearly provided such a referent.

If you believe the Bible is just a fairy tale and that God is a man-made concept,
then morality is subjective and can be anything you want it to be.

The everyone who reads the Bible coming to the same conclusions on what is God’s take on what is right and wrong was referring to devout Christians of different denominations.

Obviously the laws in Leviticus, well most of them, are no longer relevant but some sects of Christians still adhere to some of them.