American Vet wrote:
The founding fathers could put their religious beliefs aside when it came to government. They believed that the laws governing men should be written by men. This is the promise behind the separation of Church and State.
There is nothing in the Constitution about 'separation of Church and State'. Here are some of the thoughts about the subject from the FF's. And the FF's DID NOT put aside their religious beliefs - rather they used those beliefs as the basis for the Constitution.
John Adams
2nd U.S. President and Signer of the Declaration of Independence
"Suppose a nation in some distant Region should take the Bible for their only law Book, and every member should regulate his conduct by the precepts there exhibited! Every member would be obliged in conscience, to temperance, frugality, and industry; to justice, kindness, and charity towards his fellow men; and to piety, love, and reverence toward Almighty God ... What a Eutopia, what a Paradise would this region be."
--Diary and Autobiography of John Adams, Vol. III, p. 9.
Thomas Jefferson
3rd U.S. President, Drafter and Signer of the Declaration of Independence
"God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the Gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever..."
Patrick Henry
Ratifier of the U.S. Constitution
"It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here."
--The Trumpet Voice of Freedom: Patrick Henry of Virginia, p. iii.
Conservative fundamentalists have no idea how to do this and believe that everything should conform to their religious beliefs.
No more than th ELWNJs.
And ironically, in the few areas in the NT that talk about homosexuality, they talk about adulterers and liars in the same breath. So they condemn anything to do with homosexuality but give a complete pass to Donald Trump.
Plenty of the Conservatives condemn Trump for his misdeeds. Which doesn't negate his ability as a politician/President. I didn't v**e for him to be a "moral poster boy" - he wa hired to do a job."
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