manning5me Loc: Richmond, Va.

Conditions being what they are it was a natural thought to create a hideaway, a self-sufficient and defensible place suitable for up to four couples and several children.
The land must be in the foothills of a mountain range, heavily wooded, with a base of tillable fields. Access to power, natural gas and a gravel access road from a paved highway. Designed to last five t ten years of diversity.

The home would be embedded into the hill and covered with 6 to 8 feet of soil, but with an observation structure on top allowing a 360 degree view.

The main structure would be Faraday caged and have six bedrooms, six baths, living room, dining room, kitchen, library, laundry room, and a full basement, with food storage facilities and HVAC . An attached garage would hold four vehicles, plus storage for farming equipment.

Alternate power would be provided by dual gas/propane generators and a large propane tank all buried underground. Wood heating backup would be provided, as would a large gasoline tank.

A large septic field and processing is needed. And well water found and exploited, with treatment as needed, filling and maintaining to level in a large water tank.

Defending this Hideaway is problematical. Threats range from one or two intruders, to a gang of 10 to 20, or even larger. Obviously, major caliber weapons cannot be defeated. For such an assault, we need an escape tunnel to the other side of the hill. But we could stand and fight a small arms gang, and make it too costly to continue their assault.

How would you equip and defend the Hideaway?

Bruce123

The first rule of hideaway is…..
NEVER talk about the hideaway.
Having said that..
1- Property must have a potable water supply. A spring is ideal along with a creek that runs year round. A manual deep well hand pump is a must.
2- a plot of land with good soil and full sun 8 hours a day.
3- A small pond if possible.
4- lots of hardwood trees
5- Manual hand tools.Saws axes, drills, shovels, picks , rakes ext.
6- learn to do everything without electricity or gasoline powered equipment.
Remember everything has a lifespan plan accordingly.

FOOD…… freeze dried food are your friend.
Buy a freeze dryer and run it night and day. I have 2 of them.
Lots of bulk foods such as beans , rice …
They are easy to store in buckets with gamma lids.
Lots of seeds .. learn how to garden .
Several hundred pounds of salt and lots of bulk spices.
Commodities like bleach…it has a multitude of uses.
Lots of medical supplies. To many to list.
There are online pharmacies where you can buy 5 different types of prescription antibiotics along with a list of other prescription meds you might want.you need a online doctor consult to buy.

STAY away from population centers when purchasing your hideaway.
Another MUST.. develop relationships with like minded people. People with different sk**l sets are very much encouraged in you circle of friends and associates.

A efficient wood stove is worth the extra money. Not having to spend time splitting wood is a bonus.

RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit

manning5me Loc: Richmond, Va.

Location, of course! But in this theoretical exercise the question persists:defense!

RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit

I have seen reports of Mark Zuckerberg’s mega multimillion dollar bunker in Hawaii.

I have also heard reports other such endeavours, by other people who know more than us.

RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit

Defence is a question I have pondered for hours. The best is not being apparent. Example, filtering fuel exhaust for no sound or smell.

Bruce123

No talk about weapons is advised.

manning5me Loc: Richmond, Va.

I obviously have a different take on this exercise. It is a challenge to take the situation I set up and look at it as a thing to be conquered, and then to turn around and figure out how to stop it as a pure mental exercise. To my amazement, everyone seems to want to avoid the challenge by classing it as a not-to-be-discussed issue! Even if it is simply an exercise!

There would be no defense without weapons.

Bruce123

I understand what you are saying ……. But…… no …. Lol

manning5me Loc: Richmond, Va.

Scratch two!

manning5me Loc: Richmond, Va.

Perhaps these scratches are from the anti-gun crowd. That would make sense, since one cannot avoid guns in defense of life and property against determined criminals with weapons. It kinda throws them a curve ball...

bggamers Loc: georgia

You need a rechargeable solar battery several in fact and smaller ones that you can pick up and carry they come with solar panels. Not something you want to be to dependent on but they do come in handyfor charging batteries for various working tools BUT medical equipment!!! long term servival medical issues need to be a big part of the plan there are ekg machines and other similar tech type things that you can buy on line books on medical issues
unless your long term plan includes watching one of your group die when a simple test would help you help them.

manning5me Loc: Richmond, Va.

Good suggestions! They will be included! Thanks!

RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit

What one weapon would be best for all eight adults to use to pick of a force?

RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit

What to prepare for.

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