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Jun 19, 2013 15:22:48   #
The Dutchman
 
Bick wrote:
I personally do not use the term "Liberal" to describe a person such as yourself aS THE WORD COMES FROM THE WORD lIBERTY AND i REFUSE TO USE THAT FOR PERSONS THAT THINK AS U APPARENTLY DO.
I USE INSTEAD THE WORD "PROGRESSIVE" EVEN CLINTON HERSELF DESCRIBED HERSELF AS SUCH AND SO WERE Teddy, Wilson,FDR,Carter clinton and now BHO ( Damn sorry about the caps not mean to use them. saw what happened after the fact.)
Anyway, Progressive, socialist, c*******t those are the words I use to describe persons such as yourself.
I personally do not use the term "Liberal&quo... (show quote)


Bick, todays liberals are just that!
And are defined quite clealy here:
http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-2341-1.html

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Jun 19, 2013 15:23:08   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Bick wrote:
I personally do not use the term "Liberal" to describe a person such as yourself aS THE WORD COMES FROM THE WORD lIBERTY AND i REFUSE TO USE THAT FOR PERSONS THAT THINK AS U APPARENTLY DO.
I USE INSTEAD THE WORD "PROGRESSIVE" EVEN CLINTON HERSELF DESCRIBED HERSELF AS SUCH AND SO WERE Teddy, Wilson,FDR,Carter clinton and now BHO ( Damn sorry about the caps not mean to use them. saw what happened after the fact.)
Anyway, Progressive, socialist, c*******t those are the words I use to describe persons such as yourself.
I personally do not use the term "Liberal&quo... (show quote)


Long ago, and far away the libs on the forum, a different one that the libs got me kicked out of forever, cried and moaned about me calling them libs so I just took to calling them progressives but they didn't like that so I just changed to prog. Try that on them and listen to them squeal.

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Jun 19, 2013 15:40:00   #
Maynard Merrell
 
AvJoe: I agree with what you wrote. I'd like to share some information with you that might illustrate why some people really dislike liberals. The term liberal is arbitrary. Let me explain. Politically, liberal means change. The question- change to what? There are many kinds of subversives throughout our society and politics. Some are c*******t or some other form of socialism like Fabianism, N**ism, or anarchism. All of which are oligarchies whereby the few rule over the many. No one of any of these could be elected in America unless he hides his true self. Where they hide is behind- Liberal, because they, too, want change. Change our Republic to a democracy then socialism or something else. Where are we now? Karl Marx wrote that "Democracy is the road to socialism." Do our politicians who call our government a democracy know this??? How many call our government a Republic, for which it stands??? ~ Don't Tread On Me!

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Jun 19, 2013 17:38:05   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
willy7 wrote:
Joe, just as long as you adhere to the rules; what's wrong with saying you're a "liberal"? Sometimes I think there can be no meaningful dialogue liberal-to-conservative. Labels don't necessarily mean a 'slur', simply a declaration of fact. As to slurs, democrats have never been slow to fire them: Bill Maher calling Sarah Palin's grandson a r****d. (It WAS a slur.)


willy, if you were serious and called me a liberal i would take it as a slur

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Jun 19, 2013 18:32:13   #
willy7
 
alex wrote:
willy, if you were serious and called me a liberal i would take it as a slur

Alex, are you a liberal in your politics? If so how could it be a slur? Provided context was clear?

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Jun 19, 2013 18:34:19   #
willy7
 
Maynard Merrell wrote:
AvJoe: I agree with what you wrote. I'd like to share some information with you that might illustrate why some people really dislike liberals. The term liberal is arbitrary. Let me explain. Politically, liberal means change. The question- change to what? There are many kinds of subversives throughout our society and politics. Some are c*******t or some other form of socialism like Fabianism, N**ism, or anarchism. All of which are oligarchies whereby the few rule over the many. No one of any of these could be elected in America unless he hides his true self. Where they hide is behind- Liberal, because they, too, want change. Change our Republic to a democracy then socialism or something else. Where are we now? Karl Marx wrote that "Democracy is the road to socialism." Do our politicians who call our government a democracy know this??? How many call our government a Republic, for which it stands??? ~ Don't Tread On Me!
AvJoe: I agree with what you wrote. I'd like to s... (show quote)

Maynard, see Isa. 32:5-8 for what God has to say about liberals.

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Jun 19, 2013 18:45:42   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
willy7 wrote:
Alex, are you a liberal in your politics? If so how could it be a slur? Provided context was clear?


i consider it an insult to be classified as a liberal because i am not

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Jun 19, 2013 19:16:22   #
willy7
 
alex wrote:
i consider it an insult to be classified as a liberal because i am not

No insult was intended. Welcome aboard.

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Jun 19, 2013 19:20:19   #
Worried for our children Loc: Massachusetts
 
I know I've had my issues with "mmccarty12", I admit now, after reading he/she as of late, that perhaps I may have misunderstood him/her. I am now a lot clearer as to where he/she stands.


I would like to make a motion to nominate "mmccarty12", as "team assistant captain".....

Do I have a second?

p.s. for you "libs"/ "progs"/ "dims"...... This is an example of reconciliation and compromise (FYI)


Great post "mmccarty12"!!!! (In response to AvJoe)

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Jun 19, 2013 19:36:11   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Worried for our children wrote:
I know I've had my issues with "mmccarty12", I admit now, after reading he/she as of late, that perhaps I may have misunderstood him/her. I am now a lot clearer as to where he/she stands.


I would like to make a motion to nominate "mmccarty12", as "team assistant captain".....

Do I have a second?

p.s. for you "libs"/ "progs"/ "dims"...... This is an example of reconciliation and compromise (FYI)


Great post "mmccarty12"!!!! (In response to AvJoe)
I know I've had my issues with "mmccarty12&qu... (show quote)


If you misunderstood mmccarty12, you obviously were partaking of substances your little ones should NEVER know about! :-(

One must be VERY careful when dealing with the mmccarty12, banjojack, CrazyHorse, and YankeeClipper. Research, research, research is their mantra.

You are to be admired for your public reconciliation.

:oops: Belated on catching my mistake last evening at the end of my busybody lecture to you.

Last but not least. My old school background always had "p.s." as "PS". Has there been a change to that?

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Jun 19, 2013 19:44:01   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Navysnipe wrote:
AVJoe wrote: Any position is welcome but misstatements, repeated lies and bigoted, racial or political slurs which please the emotions but are just that, slurs should be called out by members of this group.

Sorry, but we are not members of the politically correct. You have only posted twice, and already you are playing the race card. This leaves any post open to calling someone a r****t if you don't agree with them. Trying to get all of us to call this out is what they do on the liberal sites. Unfortunately, this is one of the little tricks the current administration and there little trolls use when they can't win an argument. I believe in free speech. In fact, I am one of the veterans of this country that helped to ensure we can speak freely. Those who don't like it, can go elsewhere.
AVJoe wrote: Any position is welcome but misstatem... (show quote)


I believe I saw just what you say. When there is mention of race I take umbrage although I love to have leaners call me a r****t because I don't like Obama. I much prefer to have THEM blow their stack because I get the better of them and try never to go much further than leaner as far as my name calling goes. I have been on these forums for more than 10 years and have had it out with those leaners a lot of times and don't think I ever lost to one of them.

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Jun 19, 2013 19:45:57   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
willy7 wrote:
No insult was intended. Welcome aboard.


I think we still are not on the same page, you said that some people felt insulted if you called them liberal so I said if you were serious and call "ME" a liberal it would be an insult. I didn't mean you had call me that are we straight now? oh and i've been here a couple of months

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Jun 19, 2013 20:40:29   #
Yankee Clipper
 
AvJoe wrote:
Yankee Clipper in bold Red The problem with the posts I have read has more to do with the absolute crap being generated.Most crap I see on here is generated by "liberals" and I choose to call it S**t! You won't find me calling the l*****t on this site "liberals", I always (almost) call them Marxist/democrats/liberal/socialist/pinko/c*******ts or a slight variation of what I just said. I am a new member and this is only my second post but allow me to suggest the following: I suggest you as a new member go with the flow, comment how you want, what you want, when you want, leave the rest of us to our own devices.

Instead of calling someone a "liberal" (Which I have been for about 50 years) or some other name I suggest we reframe from name calling and try to honestly and argue facts and honest opinion rather than name calling. When and where I would call you a Marxist would be an honest opinion. This can be a great serious site or a rag paper. I think you know what I advocate. This site is no better or no worse than any of the left wing sites I have seen such as Moveon.org. Any position is welcome but misstatements, repeated lies and bigoted, racial or political slurs which please the emotions but are just that, slurs should be called out by members of this group. I find that many members on this site call out Marxist/democrat/liberal/socialist/and so on, the liars that they are on our site. Of course rebuttals are welcome but again adhering to the rules above. I don't believe I will be adhering to the rules above particularly those advanced by so called liberals who are really enemies of the state.
By the way correcting spelling and English as a primary argument against a position, rather than the substance of what is argued is a cheap shot (seen used many times on these pages) and a poor substitute for fact! One has to be able to understand these Marxist i***ts in order to try counter their statements. Their inability to coherently and logically make statements further defines Obama's America, anyone any smarter would see right through the Marxist agenda and bulls**t.
b color=red Yankee Clipper in bold Red /color... (show quote)

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Jun 19, 2013 20:46:14   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
alex wrote:
i consider it an insult to be classified as a liberal because i am not


Because I am in one of my well known moods, I just have to do this.

You liberal :!: :lol: :roll:

Forgiveness is requested..PLEASE.

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Jun 19, 2013 20:48:56   #
Maynard Merrell
 
During Pres. Roosevelt's regime many economic planners and social planners were hired into his government. Congressional Hearings exposed many planners as C*******ts. They quickly changed their titles to liberal. ~ Don't Tread On Me!

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