buffalo Loc: Texas

Do you think what we did/are doing in Afghanistan and Iraq have made us any safer? Seems to me what Bushie and Oliar have done with the Patriot Act, NSA, DHS with all their phone record seizures and domestic surveillance on ordinary citizens that clearly pose no threat to national security has made us LESS FREE. They are using the so-called "War on Terror" as an excuse for all this. What we have been witnessing is the formation of a police state as evidenced by the militarization of local police forces. No longer to serve and protect the citizens.

If the Shadow Govt is NOT planning for a full spectrum war inside the USA against the people, why then have they activated Northcom, created Homeland Security as a Stasi/Gestapo type organization, why the extreme military buildup inside the USA, the militarization of the police, the passage of unConstitutional draconian laws such as the Patriot Acts, the Military Commissions Act, the NDAA 2012, and many more? Why the onslaught against all American freedoms from all sides? So far the Shadow Govt has not justified any of these insane, criminal measures other than to say they are necessary to protect us from FOREIGN TERRORIST, and now the newly arising Domestic or potential or suspected D******c T*******ts (which darn near includes most law abiding Americans but only exists in their imaginations).

Do you really think America is still FREE? Yoou are a delusional sheople.

Don G. Dinsdale Loc: El Cajon, CA (San Diego County)

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DELETE!!! Unread... :thumbdown:

buffalo Loc: Texas

Then you agree with all the unConstitutional, freedom destroying domestic spying and military build up of local police forces, the Patriot Act, the NSA, the DHS, etc, etc? And you still feel FREE? AS the song says, "Freedom's just another word for nothin left to loose." ;)

Don G. Dinsdale Loc: El Cajon, CA (San Diego County)

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EXCUSE me, were you directing that last at me??? If you were, NO I disagree with so adamantly I almost 'puke' every time you post your un-American insanity I can find no reason to reply, hence DELETE, DELETE DELETE SCUM BAG... Eat Poop and die... Don D.

buffalo Loc: Texas

Then you disagree with all the unConstitutional, freedom destroying domestic spying and military build up of local police forces, the Patriot Act, the NSA, the DHS, etc, etc? And you feel less FREE? I can sense your frustration with it all.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

May well be and if it is we're better off having the best out there to get the job done and eliminate the loss of life's in the process..I like it..Don't like war at all and don't call for it, but if we're going to be in or brought in it, I'll take kicken their arse with something that keeps soldiers OUT of it..

Consequences to it true, but like I said, War isn't pretty period and no point in sitting back doing nothing to insure our safety simply because War is a racket..We better stay on top, be the front line leaders to exceptional military tools needed, not stand by the sidelines while the rest of the Nations are moving with haste to take us out anyway~~~

buffalo Loc: Texas

The United States spent 20 percent of the federal budget on defense in 2011. All told, the U.S. government spent about $718 billion on defense and international security assistance in 2011 — more than it spent on Medicare. That includes all of the Pentagon's underlying costs as well as the price tag for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, which came to $159 billion in 2011. It also includes arms t***sfers to foreign governments, but that does not include the $127 billion (another 3.5% of the federal budget) spent on veterans benefits.

The United States spent more on its military than the next 13 nations combined in 2011. According to surveys ordinary Americans want to cut defense spending alot more.

Does/did all that spending make really us safer? What did we accomplish in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Here are some facts regarding military spending:

http://www.businessinsider.com/facts-about-defense-spending-2010-11?op=1

Do you think all the rights and freedoms we have lost in the name ofr security have made us and more secure or safe.

JMHO Loc: Utah

Defense spending was 18% (not 20%) and Medicare was 14% of the budget. Entitlements take up around 45% of the budget, add in Obamacare, which will eventually add another 19%, and the total is 64% of the national budget...almost two thirds. Add interest on the debt, at 6% (currently). And, you rant about Defense? When our forces are being reduced to pre-WWII numbers?! More money needs to be spent on Defense, and less on entitlements!

buffalo Loc: Texas

NSA surveillance programs are not designed to monitor the activity of foreign terrorists. They are designed to conduct surveillance on the political activity of the American people.
That the FBI is now fully connected to the NSA surveillance network should not come as a surprise. The agency has operated as a political police force since its inception.
The FBI’s real objective, as the Church Committee discovered in the mid-1970s, is to “disrupt, misdirect, discredit, and neutralize” groups and individuals the government considers political threats.
“Suffice it to say that when and if a true history of the FBI is ever written, it will not only track the rise of the American police state but it will also chart the decline of freedom in America: how a nation that once abided by the rule of law and held the government accountable for its actions has steadily devolved into a police state where justice is one-sided, a corporate elite runs the show, representative government is a mockery, police are extensions of the military, surveillance is rampant, privacy is extinct, and the law is little more than a tool for the government to browbeat the people into compliance,” writes John W. Whitehead.

https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/john_whiteheads_commentary/the_fbi_americas_secret_police

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

More accountability and responsibility of spending I certainly support..However, we need to get rid of the pork spending on so many "other programs"and keep our military up to date with the finest and most efficient tools available to them, period..That POS is office is hitting our Military to keep in sinc his agenda of "weakening this Nation" and nothing more....I say give the Military every thing they need and then some..From enlistment of our soldiers to leaving service and everything that goes in between..I will never agree that reduction of spending is the way to handle them..Like I said, accountability and responsibility yes, but don't mess with our need to stay in the forefront on a World wide bases, no sir....

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

I do agree with this..Homeland Security is likewise the target of We, the Citizens, certainly not terrorist..Remember, we are the terrorist~~Both need to go, too~~ A financial drain that accomplishes nothing but monitor" US"......

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

yup, you got it another dang double post

buffalo Loc: Texas

I don't know if this is true, I got it in an email:


http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/fatimanoor.asp

If it is, I think O is letting the foxes gaurd the hen house.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Well given his other appointments of Muslims involved with the terrorist or Brotherhood, I would not put it past him..Not one bit.. :twisted:

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Well given his other appointments of Muslims involved with the terrorist or Brotherhood, I would not put it past him..Not one bit.. :twisted: