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Dec 23, 2023 19:53:39   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
Gatsby wrote:
Not one of your claims is true, you cannot document a single one, you are a liar on all counts.

You are in way over your head here on OPP, you'd better run for the hills, before someone hands you your head.


And up is down.

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Dec 23, 2023 20:10:30   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
federally indicted mattoid wrote:
And up is down.

You know all about Isaiah 5:20-21. You're a practicing proponent of it.

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Dec 23, 2023 20:14:58   #
GPJohn
 
EmilyD wrote:
You could have put all that into one sentence: "I don't like the GOP and I don't like Trump". That would have covered all those empty words.

You are the most biased Democrat I have ever read on any forum. You can deny that you are, but everything you post is anti-GOP, anti-Trump, anti-Trump supporters and anti-anything else related to the Republican party you can think of.

Call yourself wh**ever you can come up with to make it look like you are the "Mr. Wonderful" that you think you are. What you show yourself to be is an obsessive left-wing flaming liberal grouser, who thinks the Sun, Moon and Universe revolves around you - and only you.


At least the other Democrats and left-wing posters on here know what they are and admit it!

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You could have put all that into one sentence: &qu... (show quote)

Well you answered that i***t very nicely

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Dec 23, 2023 20:21:26   #
Hydro
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
If it was my post you are discussing, I dare you to prove me wrong. You cannot, because calling historical facts lies does not make them lies. It only makes liars look stupid.


Here’s a fact for you Nick - Trump is a mortal human being we all have done things in our life that we are ashamed of - if you can be honest with yourself you know what’s in your closet - so stop with your incessant diatribe- no one is interrested why don’t you dig into Biden or Hilary both are responsible for murders Americans - Biden because he and his Admin. Weren’t smart enough to protect our soldiers in Afghanistan where billions of dollars were given to the Taliban and 13 Americans were k**led - Hilary was head of the state dept. the ambassador in B******i requested additional security guess what they never were sent an he along with very brave soldiers died trying to defend him - but you won’t

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Dec 23, 2023 20:31:50   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Trump was conducted of fraud over trump University and fined $25 million. Convicted of sexual assault in a court in NY state. And Convicted of misuse of money because he was using the money jn his so-called charitable foundation for his own expenses, especially to pay off lost lawsuits. So, there is your proof he is a Convicted criminal guilty in court of crimes. Fraud, sexual assault, and missuse of money are crimes. And he was fined at least $30 million in damages and his foundation was closed by court order because it was operating in a fraudulent manner inconsistent with the purpose of a charitable foundation. And his "university" was closed by court order. So. Stop lying. He has been adjudicated guilty of crimes. Don't believe? Look it up. Guilty as charged. And more on the way. You trump lovers are so gullible when listening to what you want to hear, regardless of the fact that what you are listening to is lies.
Trump was conducted of fraud over trump University... (show quote)


Trump University (corporation) was convicted by a judge of fraud. Trump had just ascended to POTUS and didn't want the distraction: it is doubtful a jury would have found the Corporation guilty. Why, Nimrod, were no charge of fraud directed against Trump himself? The prosecutor would have had to prove there was a purposeful deception, such as a false statement or misrepresentation of an important fact. There was intent to deprive the victim of something, usually money. The victim suffered or could have suffered an actual loss due to the fraudulent activity. It never happned huh?

Whose charity was fined $2 million for fraud Donald's or Eric's?

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Dec 23, 2023 20:35:54   #
American Vet
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Actually, you are just another liar


Several times in this thread you have called others 'liars'. Yet when confronted with your lies - no response.

Why is that? Do you believe it is OK for you to tell lies?

Now run and hide like the good little l*****t you are.

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Dec 23, 2023 20:41:37   #
GPJohn
 
EmilyD wrote:
You could have put all that into one sentence: "I don't like the GOP and I don't like Trump". That would have covered all those empty words.

You are the most biased Democrat I have ever read on any forum. You can deny that you are, but everything you post is anti-GOP, anti-Trump, anti-Trump supporters and anti-anything else related to the Republican party you can think of.

Call yourself wh**ever you can come up with to make it look like you are the "Mr. Wonderful" that you think you are. What you show yourself to be is an obsessive left-wing flaming liberal grouser, who thinks the Sun, Moon and Universe revolves around you - and only you.


At least the other Democrats and left-wing posters on here know what they are and admit it!

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You could have put all that into one sentence: &qu... (show quote)


What scares me is that I see no middle ground with democrats today, they believe Donald Trump to literally be the anti christ, it just blows my mind on the hatred that they have for this guy. It’s like mass hypnosis of people. I like Trump, I do because he’s not an ass kissing politician, I like him because he’s done more of what he said he would do than any president in my lifetime, and that was while he was being impeached twice, once on absolute and proven BS, the other for something that just about every president has also done while in office. Both were generated by h**e by the left and the media all while poisoning the American public against him. I could go on for an hour with this but my point is why can’t people left, right, independents see this? Our country is in serious trouble, our government lifers are showing that they will do wh**ever they need to do to keep Donald Trump from returning as President!! He scares them!! He scares them because he’s letting the American people know exactly what they don’t want us to know. It is no longer a government by the people, of the people, for the people. It’s now in their eyes them and us!! and we are to do what they say and not what they do.

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Dec 23, 2023 20:43:38   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
If it was my post you are discussing, I dare you to prove me wrong. You cannot, because calling historical facts lies does not make them lies. It only makes liars look stupid.


Historical facts my butt. When researching anything Trump one must first go thru innumerable BS articles crafted by the DNC State Controlled Marxist Media which are always negative against Trump. If we're lucky after perusing thru many many anti-Trump catnip articles, prepared for you simple-minded morons who claim "historical facts," we might find a pro-Trump or a rebuttal article that slipped past the Google censors.

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Dec 23, 2023 20:46:35   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Niko wrote:
I totally agree with you. I have never seen anyone rant like he does. Especially how he blames Trump for everything that occurred with Biden


Niko, welcome aboard. It's always good to find others who love and will fight for our Republic. 👍👍👍👍👍

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Dec 23, 2023 21:22:54   #
dwp66
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
This post is a mix of my own thoughts and understandings of facts vs. lies with those of another intelligent individual who previously posted the basis in response to a boatload of known prevarications posted by a MAGA hat i***t spewing more lies. Yes, Biden is a lousy president, but nowhere near as bad as trump, a thrice convicted con artist, fraudster, and sexual predator. Found guilty of these in three different courts of law including by a jury. And still under 91 indictments. So, here is another dose of t***h, justice, and the American way – or what it was before trump was president. And anyone paying attention to trump promising to destroy democracy and violate the constitution really needs to think about what they are doing to this nation. And they need to cease believing anything on FOX, CNN, or MSNBC. And try to recall what America was like when we were a great nation with a great economy. And then get a valid education on exactly what brought us down, who did it, and why v****g for the GOP and/or trump is a v**e to continue destroying America’s greatness and our economy. Quotes below are from the previous author. Please note that anyone disagreeing with the messages below has exactly no proof of any of their claims to disagree, as the facts are not with them.

“a collapsing stock market,.” ‘Hogwash. The last time the market fell significantly, Trump was president. It cost me over $2,000 before I got out. And the market is coming up again now. And before that, Bush virtually destroyed the market, causing the “Great Recession.’ And the Great Depression was the direct result of GOP president Coolidge cutting taxes for the rich, eventually resulting in a huge balloon in the stock market values, and then the market crashed because of the balloon created by the wealthy having even more money to spend and nothing to spend it on that they needed money for. And THAT began the Great Depression.

“▪ government overreach and expansion,” ‘That is strictly a matter of opinion. I define overreach and expansion as the GOP pushing anti-a******n measures which violate the constitutional principle of separation of church and state.’ And I agree. A******n is no one’s business but the persons directly involved and their doctor(s).

“▪ out of control national debt and increased government spending.” ‘ Trump set the standard for that when he cut taxes on the rich, causing the largest increase in the deficit in many years.’

“▪ politically weaponized DOJ, FBI and CIA.” ‘Nothing here but opinion and horse manure.’

“▪ the diluting of our educational standards and educational system,” ‘More BS. The education system has been being dumbed down for over 50 years, largely by the conservatives…’ and the churches refusing to increase pay for teachers or teaching science rather than religion, resulting in the best and brightest getting non-teaching jobs. Not to mention the spate of book banning going on, led by the GOP and the i***t governor of my state of residence, Florida.

“▪ crippling the American energy industry,” ‘More total BS. No t***h in this, what so ever.’ Our energy industry is more profitable than ever, and we actually export crude oil. We have no need to import oil. America is totally oil independent. And the i***t Trump opened up our strategic reserves that were being held back for military purposes just so he could get lower prices – I ask at what cost?

“▪ stifling small businesses and business in general.” ‘The BS never stops with you, does it? Total hog wash. Small businesses are only hurt when the GOP passes laws designed to help major corporations, which is what they have been doing for the last 50 years. Give me an example of where they helped small businesses. I’ve never heard of one worth a dang.’ I’ll wait for your answer. Try finding one that contains at least some t***h. You won’t, because your statement was nothing but one more lie.

“▪ increasing prices of goods and essentials outpacing wage increases for the middle class,” ‘No surprise here.’ The GOP has been doing this for over 53 years, ultimately resulting in today’s situation of workers gaining around 10 percent in wages over that 50+ year period while the corporate level and wealthy gained 300 to over 1,200 percent. Thus resulting in the current wide disparity in incomes in the US. Another fact is that in that 50+ year period, the top paid 1 percent have increased their ownership of all of America’s wealth from about 35 percent to about 50 percent. Fact is, approximately 40 percent of wage earners today are paid at or below the official poverty value. Facts show the Dems contributed to this as well, v****g for such things as free trade with China, “Right to Work acts,” and immigration regulations allowing up to 140,000 foreigners a year to be hired by US companies and relocated to the US, taking good paying jobs from Americans. And this is exactly what trump is pushing as great economics. He has stated he wants more of the same for us (but says it will “Make America Great Again.” His support of corporations and the rich is exactly what destroyed our greatness over the last 50 years, and you have to be really stupid to believe his claims. They are just more lies.


“▪ continued tax increases across the board,” ‘About time! Trump’s tax cuts for the wealthy hurt our economy by hugely increasing the deficit. Want to solve the deficit increases? Tax the wealthy fairly and get rid of the tax loop holes the rich like Trump use to pay no taxes, further increasing the deficit. You cannot have it both ways. ‘ And this is absolute t***h!!!


“▪ the ongoing fight to limit or deny our Constitutional rights.” That’s the biggest lie so far. Trump is responsible for inciting an i**********n for the purpose of ending democracy,’ lied like a snake about v****g fraud, violating his oath of office,” and stated on the record that as president, he is not obligated to “support the constitution.” And now, that ultimate s**mmer actually stated on camera that after he wins e******n in 2024, in 2028, he will simply negotiate his return to office, in violation of the constitution, which he believes does not apply to him. In addition to supporting the efforts of evangelicals to ban a******ns, an obvious violation of separation of church and state another denial of our constitutional rights to be free of religion if we so chose. And the SCOTUS approved k*****g the Roe V. Wade law because the GOP appointed the majority and financially bribes a couple of the Supreme Court judges as well, after refusing to let the democrats replace a member while Obama was in power. Just more scumbag political acts of the GOP in violation of everything America once stood for, and doing everything they can to support the corporate interests and the wealthy in their efforts to continue holding wages down and shove more in their own pockets. “And all the GOP has in this category is the democrat’s efforts to pass some rational controls on buying and selling guns to reduce the slaughter of innocents by i***ts and criminals.”


“▪ increased crime and reduced penalties for said crimes.” ‘Don’t think I understand this one. Crime increased under trump due to increasing poverty. I’d like to see your evidence for increasing crime under Biden. I looked it up on the FBI website for trump’s record on this. And as I recall, most of the criminals recently released early were serving time for marijuana violations.’ Whoopie Do. That’s legal now in a lot of states, and more is coming. Just more hogwash from the liars at the GOP.


“▪ a nation without borders,” More hogwash. I’m waiting to listen to the republicans whine about the rising cost of harvesting fruit in the US. Historically, back in the 40’s, according to the INS, we had approximately 11 million people here from south of our border. Nobody from the poor immigrants group is taking jobs from Americans. They are doing jobs Americans will not do, such as picking strawberries and oranges here in Florida. I drive by strawberry fields and orange groves almost daily in season, and it is pretty obvious that w***e A******ns are not there. This whole thing has the stench of r****m about it. Living in Florida, I regularly see exactly who picks our fruit. And it is primarily Spanish speaking people, male and female.


“▪ government (Ds and Rs) ignoring and violating their oath of office to protect our citizens and this nation.” ‘Was that the result of Trump kissing up to Kim Yung Un, or asking Li Jinn Ping and Vladimir Putin to help him win the presidency?’ I watched his lips move when he asked for that help on public TV. “Otherwise, I have no idea what you are talking about.”


“▪ sending billions of unaccounted for tax dollars to support wars that are not in our national interest.” ‘Seems like a majority of Americans support that effort and support Israel’s right to exist. And I do believe Hamas struck first. And your statement is absolutely a matter of opinion. Not a fact.’


“▪ sending billions of unaccounted for tax dollars to support enemy nations.” ‘Which enemy nations? Name them. And I will bet they are counted. Which of our enemies are you claiming we are sending money to? I suspect this is another case of a matter of opinion, not a fact. But since you failed to name names, you did not provide much to go on. Are you suggesting Canada is our enemy?? Put up or shut up. Facts matter. Unsupported allegations do not.’


“▪ officials violating their oath of office by aiding and abetting our self professed enemies by handing them billions of dollars of hi-tech weapons and military equipment making them one of the top fighting forces in the world.” ‘Nice to see you know what trump did. But exactly which “self-professed” enemies are you talking about? It is difficult to address statements that actually say nothing because the information provided means nothing except to the person writing it.’ and they failed to identify which enemies, meaning that, actually, there were none. So, cease the lies. We know you are lying. Who is paying you to lie for trump?


“▪ providing favors and information to long term national enemies in turn for self riches.” ‘Last I read of the transcripts involved in the attempt to impeach Biden, there is no valid evidence this occurred. Valid evidence is that which can be confirmed by facts. So far, the transcripts show only supposition and assumptions. No valid evidence.’ And there is still no such verified evidence. Nothing but accusations.

“▪ a weakening and unprepared military, and…” ‘That, again, would be a matter of opinion, not a matter of fact. If you cannot do better than splatter out a slew of opinions without facts and try to claim they are true, you really should not try to get people to believe your posts.’ People with thinking minds are not convinced of anything without verified evidence and the entire story. So, basically, your entire post is nothing but lies and bovine feces. How stupid do you have to be to think that educated, intelligent people will believe the horse manure?

“▪ government attacking, demonizing and penalizing American citizens for exercising their freedom of speech.” ‘Is that akin to trump declaring that when re-elected, he will jail or otherwise get even with those who did not support him? I read the transcript that said almost exactly that. That sounds exactly like what the GOP has stayed busy doing, such as representatives Marjorie Taylor Green and Lauren Boebert? And frankly, it is my opinion that all political statements should be at least 90 percent true.’ But all we get is lies from both sides. I want term limits!

The t***h is that both sides are crooked. As previously stated, I am neither a democrat nor a republican. I v**e for the person and his or her morals, intelligence, and honesty. You really need to cease watching Fox news and its lies. I refuse to watch FOX, CNN or MSNBC and their lies. The lies were proven by the PEW Research Group. Back around 2016 or 2017. Their conclusion after approximately one year of study was that the percentages of each source of outright lies, half t***hs, some t***h, or spin were as follows: FOX: 96%, CNN: 94%, MSNBC: 92%. I suggest you not waste your time watching any of these known sources of political falsehoods.
This post is a mix of my own thoughts and understa... (show quote)


Good essay. Lot's of intelligent comments here. Hat's off to you & the t***h.

I don't really want Trump OR Biden, the choice between the two is a simple one: Trump is a t*****r and shouldn't be anywhere near the Oval Office.

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Dec 23, 2023 21:24:34   #
EmilyD
 
GPJohn wrote:
What scares me is that I see no middle ground with democrats today, they believe Donald Trump to literally be the anti christ, it just blows my mind on the hatred that they have for this guy. It’s like mass hypnosis of people. I like Trump, I do because he’s not an ass kissing politician, I like him because he’s done more of what he said he would do than any president in my lifetime, and that was while he was being impeached twice, once on absolute and proven BS, the other for something that just about every president has also done while in office. Both were generated by h**e by the left and the media all while poisoning the American public against him. I could go on for an hour with this but my point is why can’t people left, right, independents see this? Our country is in serious trouble, our government lifers are showing that they will do wh**ever they need to do to keep Donald Trump from returning as President!! He scares them!! He scares them because he’s letting the American people know exactly what they don’t want us to know. It is no longer a government by the people, of the people, for the people. It’s now in their eyes them and us!! and we are to do what they say and not what they do.
What scares me is that I see no middle ground with... (show quote)


Very well....and calmly....put! 👍👍👍

I don't understand the level of hatred for this one man, either. When C***d hit and people were told....almost forced with mandates and lockdowns...to go get a shot in the arm that had (1) not been tested properly, (2) only been authorized to use in an emergency, (3) not been fully licensed by the FDA, (4) been called "experimental" and (4) a disclaimer that said no one could sue the drug companies if anything happened to them, including death! And millions and millions of people went like zombies without questioning any of that!

That's the type of thing I think of when I see the media and other widely publicized sources telling the people that Trump is bad. Talk shows...all of them...have monologues about Trump. Saturday Night Live is famous for mocking him. (Even Alec Baldwin quit doing it because he was getting s**k of all the h**e!) CNN and the other main stream media systematically trashed Trump every single day. And here we have all these mostly l*****ts buying this stuff hook line and sinker! It's like it's own v***s...one person catches it, and then everyone has it - the "Hatred for Trump" disease!

Everyone knows, even a lot of Democrats - whether they admit it out loud or not - that if Trump weren't running, none of these indictments and trials would be happening. I mean....look at how MANY times they've tried to get him!!! Seven....eight times now??

Don't people think for themselves anymore?

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Dec 23, 2023 21:26:52   #
dwp66
 
EmilyD wrote:
You could have put all that into one sentence: "I don't like the GOP and I don't like Trump". That would have covered all those empty words.

You are the most biased Democrat I have ever read on any forum. You can deny that you are, but everything you post is anti-GOP, anti-Trump, anti-Trump supporters and anti-anything else related to the Republican party you can think of.

Call yourself wh**ever you can come up with to make it look like you are the "Mr. Wonderful" that you think you are. What you show yourself to be is an obsessive left-wing flaming liberal grouser, who thinks the Sun, Moon and Universe revolves around you - and only you.


At least the other Democrats and left-wing posters on here know what they are and admit it!

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You could have put all that into one sentence: &qu... (show quote)


Wow! EmilyD has outdone herself! Let me re-word her comment to match her own views, which she has posted here on this forum numerous times:

"You are the most biased Maga person I have ever read on any forum. You can deny that you are, but everything you post is anti-DEM, anti-Biden, anti-Biden supporters and anti-anything else related to the Democratic party you can think of."

Fits perfectly, just like Cinderella's slipper. Hypocrisy much, Emily? Show me where I'm wrong.

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Dec 23, 2023 21:27:30   #
Unintended Consequences
 
Jim0001 wrote:
I h**e Christians, I h**e freedom, I h**e gunowners, I h**e t***h, I h**e intelligence, I h**e differing opinions... The list of liberal h**e is ad infinitum

Why do you recite such nonsense? I am as liberal as they come. I was a church organist for 57 years before I retired. I have a bachelors and masters degree. I live with friends and there are 12 guns in our house. I come on this forum looking to hear a few conservative opinions. Instead I get a list of how terrible liberals are. Most of my friends and relatives are liberals. Many of the people I have worked with are liberals and there are thousands. So don't put us all in one category.

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Dec 23, 2023 21:29:56   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
dwp66 wrote:
Good essay. Lot's of intelligent comments here. Hat's off to you & the t***h.

I don't really want Trump OR Biden, the choice between the two is a simple one: Trump is a t*****r and shouldn't be anywhere near the Oval Office.


Here, dear people, is a prime example of the blind leading the blind. Look out fellers there's a pit on your path.

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Dec 23, 2023 21:30:58   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
dwp66 wrote:
Wow! EmilyD has outdone herself! Let me re-word her comment to match her own views, which she has posted here on this forum numerous times:

"You are the most biased Maga person I have ever read on any forum. You can deny that you are, but everything you post is anti-DEM, anti-Biden, anti-Biden supporters and anti-anything else related to the Democratic party you can think of."

Fits perfectly, just like Cinderella's slipper. Hypocrisy much, Emily? Show me where I'm wrong.
Wow! EmilyD has outdone herself! Let me re-word h... (show quote)


Are you serious????? You really call Emily bias???? Have you read posts about Trump and his supporters from your side....Talk about biased!!!.. You just called Trump a t*****r!!! That's not biased????

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