Confessions of a High School Math Tutor (Page 4): No, Nickolai, they are not. They are Socialists, and Socialism can only work if everyone believes the same. This is how I explained to...

CarolSeer2016

Nickolai wrote:

What ever gave you the idea that liberals want students to regurgitate so-called facts like little robots? Liberals first and foremost are freethinkers, critical thinkers by their very nature. It's the very thing that marks the difference between wing nuts and liberals

No, Nickolai, they are not. They are Socialists, and Socialism can only work if everyone believes the same. This is how I explained to my young foreign exchange student from Vietnam when she wondered why the newspapers in her country only printed the pure party line. So in order to install Socialism, the media, the government and academia must teach and inform the populace ONLY of the "pure party line.".

By the way, Nick, have you done a little introspection to find out why you have acquired guilt? Did you behave dishonestly in any way in your former life as a capitalist? Is that why you feel guilty? There's no shame in having the gift of making money, Nick, if you came by it honestly. Why are you beating yourself up, by becoming a Liberal?

CarolSeer2016

UncleJesse wrote:

You have quoted the definition of a liberal education, which is to discard traditional thinking and reward opinion over correct answers. You have this backwards. Conservatives educate by learned sk**ls and knowledge, liberals educate by creative questioning. A book report by conservative educators grades on the accuracy of the story or reader comprehension; liberals grade on the opinion of the story or readers expression of a broadened viewpoint beyond what the author expressed.

Opinion, UJ?

By the way, when were you last in school? Also, see my response to Nick, which I just posted. You may gain in understanding.

CarolSeer2016

Nickolai wrote:

What ever gave you the idea that liberals want students to regurgitate so-called facts like little robots? Liberals first and foremost are freethinkers, critical thinkers by their very nature. It's the very thing that marks the difference between wing nuts and liberals

Another thing, UJ, the fact that you can post a comment like this tells me you swallowed that liberal claptrap hook, line and sinker.

That is exactly what the Left wants you to believe--as if Liberal thought is enlightening. You might do well to read "With a Finger in My I", a story by David Gerrold, anthologized in "Again, Dangerous Visions"--how people perceive reality. Try to follow the dots here, UJ.

CarolSeer2016

CarolSeer2016 wrote:

Another thing, UJ, the fact that you can post a comment like this tells me you swallowed that liberal claptrap hook, line and sinker.

That is exactly what the Left wants you to believe--as if Liberal thought is enlightening. You might do well to read "With a Finger in My I", a story by David Gerrold, anthologized in "Again, Dangerous Visions"--how people perceive reality. Try to follow the dots here, UJ.

Apparently, this last comment is for both UJ AND old Nick.

CarolSeer2016

UncleJesse wrote:

You have quoted the definition of a liberal education, which is to discard traditional thinking and reward opinion over correct answers. You have this backwards. Conservatives educate by learned sk**ls and knowledge, liberals educate by creative questioning. A book report by conservative educators grades on the accuracy of the story or reader comprehension; liberals grade on the opinion of the story or readers expression of a broadened viewpoint beyond what the author expressed.

What exactly is the meaning of "...reward opinion over correct answers..." Is that a good thing? Are you playing with me, UJ? I can't imagine an intelligent person even stating an absurdity such as that.

CarolSeer2016

robert66 wrote:

You were doing good until you implied that Bill Ay... (show quote)

Did you even read my post, Bobbie?

1. You said, "First you seem to have realized that kids should think for themselves and then turn around and make the case that Bill Ayers has ruined the education system therefore you should just ignore that because there's nothing to see there."
What does Bill Ayers ruining the education system have to do with kids thinking for themselves?

2. In some other posts on this thread, I've noticed the emphasis put on opinion. Are they saying Liberals teach kids to opiniate? And that's supposed to be a good thing? Have you not read my comment on POV and opinion, versus logical supportable premises? Must I post it again?

3. I believe you've missed the whole point of the post. Period.

CarolSeer2016

robert66 wrote:

I don't know much about Ayers but it really doesn'... (show quote)

Which one of all these opinions reflect reality, Bobbie?

Please reread and try to understand my original post. I wasn't talking about opinion---I was trying to teach kids how to determine t***h (reality), using reason, not how to opinionate.

Apparently Libs don't teach reason.

CarolSeer2016

UncleJesse wrote:

You have quoted the definition of a liberal education, which is to discard traditional thinking and reward opinion over correct answers. You have this backwards. Conservatives educate by learned sk**ls and knowledge, liberals educate by creative questioning. A book report by conservative educators grades on the accuracy of the story or reader comprehension; liberals grade on the opinion of the story or readers expression of a broadened viewpoint beyond what the author expressed.

And which opinion is real?

I can't emphasize this enough!

CarolSeer2016

Definitions:

Point of View: An opinion

Opinion: A belief or judgement that rests on grounds INSUFFICIENT to produce complete certainty. And I add, even little certainty.

CarolSeer2016

I tried, Conservative bloggers. Leading Liberal jackasses to water. But they can't seem to drink. I don't think they even know the water is there!

Just another "Brick in the Wall" as Pink Floyd so aptly put it, in his rant against "thought control".

CarolSeer2016

Folks, (to use an Obamaism) I've figured out the answer to the dilemma of the L*****t Liberal bloggers on this thread.

VERISIMILITUDE---The Left's Last Tactic.

robert66

CarolSeer2016 wrote:

Did you even read my post, Bobbie? br br 1. Yo... (show quote)

Then inform me in plain old English in a few sentences just what the point of the post is. What is the difference between an opinion and a fact? I think that facts have become , to many, only what they wanted to believe was a fact before they were exposed to any information. If it does not meet the expectation then it is not a fact.

CarolSeer2016

robert66 wrote:

Then inform me in plain old English in a few sentences just what the point of the post is. What is the difference between an opinion and a fact? I think that facts have become , to many, only what they wanted to believe was a fact before they were exposed to any information. If it does not meet the expectation then it is not a fact.

I think there is some t***h in what you say about a fact (nowadays, anyway--there was more rigor to "facts" before Liberals began brainwashing the young) being only what one wants to believe is "t***h". Confusion sets in when you say: "before they were exposed to any information."

Now even "information" is suspect insofar as it represents "t***h".

I posted above just what defines opinion.

CarolSeer2016

robert66 wrote:

Then inform me in plain old English in a few sentences just what the point of the post is. What is the difference between an opinion and a fact? I think that facts have become , to many, only what they wanted to believe was a fact before they were exposed to any information. If it does not meet the expectation then it is not a fact.

How do we determine t***h, Robert?

To attempt an answer, you must first believe there exists an (and a unique) objective t***h or reality beyond any one individual's subjective experience. You must therefore leave the realm of 19th century European philosophical thought.

robert66

CarolSeer2016 wrote:

How do we determine t***h, Robert?

To attempt an answer, you must first believe there exists an (and a unique) objective t***h or reality beyond any one individual's subjective experience. You must therefore leave the realm of 19th century European philosophical thought.

You seem to be too hung up on this left and right thing to form anything near an unbiased conclusion. You advocate " only God fearing republicans know what's t***h is" mentality. Bill Ayers is a leftie therefore everything he says or believes is a lie. If you have ever associated with him or suggested that something he wrote or believes in is true , you are wrong and probably contaminated beyond repair. We all know this leads back to some form of h**e Obama bulls**t. I read here frequently so it would certainly be untrue to suggest it was a coincidence that a Bill Ayers reference was used in a derogatory fashion. No teacher should be proud to make the decision to inflict their political agenda on their students.