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Sep 24, 2023 18:24:04   #
Haski123
 
4430 wrote:
Isn't it ironic that Sew_What and the rest of OPP's lefties try to convince us how wonderful a President Biden is and how bad Trump was and watching this shows how far down the path to destruction Biden has lead us and yet they want us to believe that Trump was worse !
Isn't it ironic that Sew_What and the rest of OPP'... (show quote)


I don’t recall saying how wonderful Biden is. He’s made some mistakes as had Trump, Biden hasn’t been indicted or alleged to have broken any laws, as Trump has. Biden is more constituents oriented, Trump is more Trump oriented. Biden supports women, vets, minorities, religious diversity, Trump name calls and denigrates them. Biden’s is trying to work with both parties, Trump has drawn a solid line not to be crossed making partisan divide larger. Biden is looking forward, Trump backwards and promises retribution against any that disagreed in the past with him- drain the swamp again.

These things make Biden more tolerable than Trump. Pick of best of the average to poor. Neither is my ideal pick, I would like to see Democrats and Republicans find better candidates out of our plus 300 million population.

Trump destroyed the traditional go with the incumbent in e******n they have the advantage when he lost in 2020. While Biden could be 2nd incumbent in modern times to lose, we are all hoping that Trump is his opponent. Plus 80m people v**ed against Trump in 2020, I don’t think all the things he’s done in office and since leaving office has endeared him to any more v**ers beyond his base which isn’t enough to win a general e******n.

Unless something unforeseen happens I don’t feel Trump to date has done anything but grow his MAGA base some, if he doesn’t pick up more youth, big unions, teachers, vets, independents, retain big business support, women and minorities than he did in 2020 he’s toast.

He left w***e s*********ts to go to jail for J6( not even sure the convicted can v**e), mid conservative republicans are not confirming support. He’s got indictments pending- a lot of baggage. We have potential Government shutdown pending that is being directed by Trump to happen if all far right requests aren’t met. It would be hard to spin that as Democratic issue outside MAGA core base.

It’s early we will see how things change through the coming year. Concerned about both Biden and Trumps age to handle the stress of office. At this time it could go either way.

I want to see Republican platform and compare to democratic platform to see which candidate I’d v**e for, but if it’s Trump as GOP candidate I will v**e against him.

In summary Trump is a poorer choice than Biden in a large % of peoples minds.

Democrats are making a huge mistake by letting republicans blame inflation on Biden- inflation is biggest factor on v**ers minds today and two years of it is not forgettable even though it started before any Biden policies were implemented in early 2021, he owns it as Trump owned C***d- a factor in Trump losing in 2020. Biden has taken steps to mitigate it, people are still feeling it in their cash flow. It took all of the 70’s to fix inflation last time it surfaced.

Time will tell.

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Sep 24, 2023 21:10:43   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Haski123 wrote:
I don’t recall saying how wonderful Biden is. He’s made some mistakes as had Trump, Biden hasn’t been indicted or alleged to have broken any laws, as Trump has.


If Trump did break the laws and it's proven beyond a shadow of a doubt the he should be held accountable .
The same goes for Biden or any other politicians but your post of praising Biden seems to say you're okay witrh what ever the Biden's do .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ6QiqvfvxE Biden admits to Quid Pro Quo which is against the law .

Look at all the stuff coming to light that Biden and H****r having shadow account to money from foreign governments Biden's are as corrupt as anyone and yet you all want to hang Trump but look the other way when it comes to the Biden's .

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Sep 24, 2023 22:07:17   #
Haski123
 
4430 wrote:
If Trump did break the laws and it's proven beyond a shadow of a doubt the he should be held accountable .
The same goes for Biden or any other politicians but your post of praising Biden seems to say you're okay witrh what ever the Biden's do .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ6QiqvfvxE Biden admits to Quid Pro Quo which is against the law .

Look at all the stuff coming to light that Biden and H****r having shadow account to money from foreign governments Biden's are as corrupt as anyone and yet you all want to hang Trump but look the other way when it comes to the Biden's .
If Trump did break the laws and it's proven beyond... (show quote)


No it’s a timing thing, no indictments against Joe Biden at this time, if they’re is indictment’s ,then the law will decide.

H****r B***n is not and has not been a part of WH staff as Trumps kids were, so making a tie to H****rs activities and tie to Joe & any alleged illegal activities Joe may have been involved in may be difficult to establish to indict Joe.
Let the investigations begin.

Could also be investigation into Trumps kids China and Saudis Arabia deals ongoing that we won’t know til indictments are issued.

Any illegal activity is fair game in my mind.

One exception is the congressional investigation of Joe Biden with no concrete evidence. Proported crime looking for evidence vs evidence of chargeable crime with indictments based on evidence.

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Sep 25, 2023 05:41:53   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Haski123 wrote:
No it’s a timing thing, no indictments against Joe Biden at this time, if they’re is indictment’s ,then the law will decide.

H****r B***n is not and has not been a part of WH staff as Trumps kids were, so making a tie to H****rs activities and tie to Joe & any alleged illegal activities Joe may have been involved in may be difficult to establish to indict Joe.
Let the investigations begin.

Could also be investigation into Trumps kids China and Saudis Arabia deals ongoing that we won’t know til indictments are issued.

Any illegal activity is fair game in my mind.

One exception is the congressional investigation of Joe Biden with no concrete evidence. Proported crime looking for evidence vs evidence of chargeable crime with indictments based on evidence.
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Every time there's bad now on Biden trump gets another another indictment they're doing their best to keep Trump off the primary trail .

The corruption is so bad in DC and we are very close if not past the point of losing of our Republic.

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Sep 25, 2023 09:45:32   #
Haski123
 
4430 wrote:
Every time there's bad now on Biden trump gets another another indictment they're doing their best to keep Trump off the primary trail .

The corruption is so bad in DC and we are very close if not past the point of losing of our Republic.


That’s one view, my view is you have to have solid evidence to indict. Subpoenas take time to process collect data and interview those that comply to request. Then you have to analyze and determine if any wrong doing took place. Trumps lawyers have seen this coming for over a year-prior to Trump being indicted, then asked for a year to review the case, which is outrageous, you can’t say took to long to investigate then say I want as much or more time just to read the findings. Investigations take much longer than just reading the findings and formulating a defense. Trump is using his old delay tactic again, yet he was the first to announce running for president- why- he saw the indictments coming and wanted to be able to claim e******n i**********e as he’s the biggest corrupt , con man since the elixir con men of the old west. They never went back to the same town for fear they would be tar and feathered.
You are quoting Trumps words when you say we are very close to losing our republic. No else saying that outside the MAGA world. How is it he’s the only one that can save it-wrong he’s the only one that can destroy it and he’s working hard to do so. He gets elected, starts his 2nd swamp drain, surrounds himself with same type of yes men(many indicted), pardons himself and J6 convicted by court of law i**********nist. Then start’s retribution against any of the people who challenged him in past seven years. Then he will put in place laws to allow him to be President for life and we will have an oligarchical dictatorship. Trumps the biggest threat to our democratic What do Magas do if Trump is somehow incapacitated? Why is it he’s the only one- cause he says so and his followers believe him.

Time will tell.

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Sep 25, 2023 09:47:21   #
Haski123
 
4430 wrote:
Every time there's bad now on Biden trump gets another another indictment they're doing their best to keep Trump off the primary trail .

The corruption is so bad in DC and we are very close if not past the point of losing of our Republic.


Trump brought all this attention on himself for his wrongdoings. Trump firmly placed his own targets on his own back with his questionable and indictable actions.

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Sep 25, 2023 10:18:39   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Haski123 wrote:
Trump brought all this attention on himself for his wrongdoings. Trump firmly placed his own targets on his own back with his questionable and indictable actions.


What "wrongdoings" has Trump been convicted of? Those political indictments? And that is precisely the issue never faced by you L*****t thought police. "If we "think" Trump's guilty why bother with the time and expense of a trial." Lefyist lynch mob mental Democracy in living color.. Perhaps the axiom "where there is smoke, etc, applies" but that same consideration conveniently does not apply to Biden's obvious uncharged criminality.

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Sep 25, 2023 12:40:44   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Haski123 wrote:
Many is a stretch, in House of Representatives nine of 212 democratic representatives(~4%) some or a few, are card carrying members of American Socialist Party. That’s not many that’s a few and they are mostly far left democrats.

Republican have a far right ( ultra or radical conservatives)as well that appears to be growing in number and influence more than the democratic far left.


How many Marxist are tolerable in the three branches of government? Why are they all Democrats? Although the number of card carrying Socialist may be small, comparatively, those Democrats who wittingly or unwittingly promote the destructive forces of Marxism and v**e 100% in lockstep with the demands of their leaders are your majority. Do I understand you must reject this pronouncement? Of course I do. You know well that to support a Marxists ideology is to support evil and you cannot see yourselves doing that at all. So, you attach your minds to the supposedly good things Democrats claim to promote and disavow the overwhelming evil things Democrat Marxist put a full measure of their efforts into. Do I really need to make you a list?

I should hope that Conservatives are growing in numbers as you suggest. Where are they coming from and why?

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Sep 25, 2023 13:17:40   #
Haski123
 
padremike wrote:
What "wrongdoings" has Trump been convicted of? Those political indictments? And that is precisely the issue never faced by you L*****t thought police. "If we "think" Trump's guilty why bother with the time and expense of a trial." Lefyist lynch mob mental Democracy in living color.. Perhaps the axiom "where there is smoke, etc, applies" but that same consideration conveniently does not apply to Biden's obvious uncharged criminality.


How about “convicted” of defamation and sexual abuse of Jean Carroll, Trump University fraud was another “ conviction”. Those are convictions.

I have stated in each post that Trump is innocent until proven guilty., but four indictments on different items in some differing jurisdictions is not not normal for anyone let alone a former President.
His quotes and many other actions while not illegal are not characteristics of a good person especially a President, (a few, chronic lying, denigrating/ name calling others( veterans, women, Muslims, Mexicans, immigrants and anyone with an opposing view or idea).

Regarding Biden- first legalities are focus on his son who is not or has not been in his administration, but trying to find evidence of a chargeable crime related to Joe. So not enough proof no indictments ( kinda like 2020 e******n deniers). Time will tell on Joe Biden any indictments and time will tell on outcome of Trump current indictments . Trial and appeals regardless of verdict. I suspect the Supreme Court will be final arbitrator.

Clearly it is not going to be judged here or on social media or the press, the court legal system/ process will decide.

So you accuse democrats of saying Trump guilty- which I have not, yet turn around and say unindicted, unimpeached, non name caller, Joe Biden is a criminal. The axe only swings one way with you. Republicans are never guilty( reference two convictions above, democrats sa Trump is guilty- I have not said that, and you say that’s unfair and we are judging then you turn right around and call Biden a criminal.

Can’t have it both ways- it sounds very biased and hypocritical to me.

Let’s not pre judge and let the courts over the next 12-24 months sort it out.

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Sep 25, 2023 14:56:10   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Haski123 wrote:
How about “convicted” of defamation and sexual abuse of Jean Carroll, Trump University fraud was another “ conviction”. Those are convictions.

I have stated in each post that Trump is innocent until proven guilty., but four indictments on different items in some differing jurisdictions is not not normal for anyone let alone a former President.
His quotes and many other actions while not illegal are not characteristics of a good person especially a President, (a few, chronic lying, denigrating/ name calling others( veterans, women, Muslims, Mexicans, immigrants and anyone with an opposing view or idea).

Regarding Biden- first legalities are focus on his son who is not or has not been in his administration, but trying to find evidence of a chargeable crime related to Joe. So not enough proof no indictments ( kinda like 2020 e******n deniers). Time will tell on Joe Biden any indictments and time will tell on outcome of Trump current indictments . Trial and appeals regardless of verdict. I suspect the Supreme Court will be final arbitrator.

Clearly it is not going to be judged here or on social media or the press, the court legal system/ process will decide.

So you accuse democrats of saying Trump guilty- which I have not, yet turn around and say unindicted, unimpeached, non name caller, Joe Biden is a criminal. The axe only swings one way with you. Republicans are never guilty( reference two convictions above, democrats sa Trump is guilty- I have not said that, and you say that’s unfair and we are judging then you turn right around and call Biden a criminal.

Can’t have it both ways- it sounds very biased and hypocritical to me.

Let’s not pre judge and let the courts over the next 12-24 months sort it out.
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You l*****t always have a ready excuse. And talk about hypocritical you've set the standard. If you believe the NYC trial over an incident 30 years ago, especially when she couldn't even remember what year it allegedly occurred, was fair and by a jury of Trump's peers I can only hope you face the same type of jury someday. It's almost comical how you "yes butted" yourself. Allow me to explain. Whenever you're discussing something with another person and they interrupt and say, "yes but," they're literally saying, " OK, you've had your say now disregard what you've said and listen to me." In your comment you said, "I have stated in each post that Trump is innocent until proven guilty., BUT four indictments on different items in some differing jurisdictions is not not normal for anyone let alone a former President." Yes Hadki, BUT it is not normal that every charge, every allegation, every indictment has been at the hands of your neo-Marxist Progressive Party who h**es Trump and have been after him consistently since he took the oath.

I can unequivocally state that your L*****ts have weaponized and destroyed the Rule of Law giving us a two tier justice system. This means we are no longer a Republic and that should scare the hell out of you. What are we? I don't really know. Are we a nation in t***sition to Marxism or to a just as dreadful Democracy?

What is your explanation for the accumulated and previously hidden wealth of Biden? It was suggested today that since Biden and Senator Menendez were both the Chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee the position is a pathway to wealth. Hmmmm. 🤔

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Sep 25, 2023 15:50:20   #
Haski123
 
padremike wrote:
You l*****t always have a ready excuse. And talk about hypocritical you've set the standard. If you believe the NYC trial over an incident 30 years ago, especially when she couldn't even remember what year it allegedly occurred, was fair and by a jury of Trump's peers I can only hope you face the same type of jury someday. It's almost comical how you "yes butted" yourself. Allow me to explain. Whenever you're discussing something with another person and they interrupt and say, "yes but," they're literally saying, " OK, you've had your say now disregard what you've said and listen to me." In your comment you said, "I have stated in each post that Trump is innocent until proven guilty., BUT four indictments on different items in some differing jurisdictions is not not normal for anyone let alone a former President." Yes Hadki, BUT it is not normal that every charge, every allegation, every indictment has been at the hands of your neo-Marxist Progressive Party who h**es Trump and have been after him consistently since he took the oath.

I can unequivocally state that your L*****ts have weaponized and destroyed the Rule of Law giving us a two tier justice system. This means we are no longer a Republic and that should scare the hell out of you. What are we? I don't really know. Are we a nation in t***sition to Marxism or to a just as dreadful Democracy?

What is your explanation for the accumulated and previously hidden wealth of Biden? It was suggested today that since Biden and Senator Menendez were both the Chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee the position is a pathway to wealth. Hmmmm. 🤔
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Trump weaponised the DOJ and treated them almost like his own law firm. Not only has Biden not weaponised them, Garland is allowed to do his job without influence from WH, and Jack Smith is being allowed by Garland to his on without influence from Garland. Grand jury’s are interviewing witnesses and gathering and review documents to determine if any wrong doing was done. How is that weaponised?
So in both Trumps convictions the legal system got it wrong in your eyes. Is that your position should Trump be found guilty on any of the current indictment charges.
So anything negative about a purely bad person- Trump the legal system got it wrong in your eyes.
Are the 100’s of people charged and convicted for J6 all innocent as well in your eyes.

Trumps actions and words and attacks on people put the target on Trumps back all by himself that has allowed non MAGA people to see him as he is a truly bad person. Trump brought on himself the focus and he earned every bit of it. Now it’s time for him to account for his action or misdeeds through the legal system. Time will tell.

Finally since you say I deny. You said Trump has not been convicted- I said he was, you now deny the legality of Trumps conviction- sounds like denial. If you want to be more current I understand he recently defamed Jean Carroll again is going to have to pay more restitution to her.

Now you deflect to Biden, when Joe Biden is indicted by a court of law and goes to trial and is convicted( the same ar Trump is held to) then we move from conspiracy theory to factual based legal action. Deflecting there at this time is pure supposition.

I think if we let the radicals from either party dictate the government direction the republic is at risk. Worse is we have made extreme partisanship the norm, accepted conspiracies that media is all f**e news, all government is corrupt, legal system is corrupt, e******ns can’t be trusted to pick actual winner. Most all unsupported BS.

Do we have some biased media- yes( fox just paid mucho bucks for f**e reporting on “ s****n e******n”, do we have some corruption in government- any organizations the size of state and federal government will always have some but typically not the majority, is thenlegal system corrupt( first it’s not political, works from written law and documented cases) Do they always get it right, they get it right most times, no occasionally they miss( that’s what appeals are for) , are e******ns accurate- yes. 2020 e******n was most audited at state or federal level, most recounts, most supervised. Trumps IT director of security stated most secure e******n in history- was fired shortly thereafter, Barr said no evidence of fraud and no inconsistencies that would have changed the 2020 e******n outcome.- he was replaced shortly thereafter as well.

So Trump was convicted, the USA is not falling into Marist c*******m government by Biden, the constitution is being upheld- Thank You Mike Pence and others)the court system and e******ns are sound as ever.

If you hear the negative comments day in and day out from biased people, biased media, the corrupt minorities, and Supreme Leader- Trump , you then begin to believe the BS and a small % of people will continue to drive h**e, intolerance , violence and political mayhem across this great nation.

We are not Democrats vs Republicans. we are each individual citizens expressing our free speech right. Each of us has to not make everything political, need to listen to each other to understand differences and where we are alike and cross the gaping partisan divide and be respectful, trusting, loving individuals again and work together not apart for the betterment of the USA.

Cheers!

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Sep 25, 2023 17:43:44   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Haski123 wrote:
Trump weaponised the DOJ and treated them almost like his own law firm. Not only has Biden not weaponised them, Garland is allowed to do his job without influence from WH, and Jack Smith is being allowed by Garland to his on without influence from Garland. Grand jury’s are interviewing witnesses and gathering and review documents to determine if any wrong doing was done. How is that weaponised?
So in both Trumps convictions the legal system got it wrong in your eyes. Is that your position should Trump be found guilty on any of the current indictment charges.
So anything negative about a purely bad person- Trump the legal system got it wrong in your eyes.
Are the 100’s of people charged and convicted for J6 all innocent as well in your eyes.

Trumps actions and words and attacks on people put the target on Trumps back all by himself that has allowed non MAGA people to see him as he is a truly bad person. Trump brought on himself the focus and he earned every bit of it. Now it’s time for him to account for his action or misdeeds through the legal system. Time will tell.

Finally since you say I deny. You said Trump has not been convicted- I said he was, you now deny the legality of Trumps conviction- sounds like denial. If you want to be more current I understand he recently defamed Jean Carroll again is going to have to pay more restitution to her.

Now you deflect to Biden, when Joe Biden is indicted by a court of law and goes to trial and is convicted( the same ar Trump is held to) then we move from conspiracy theory to factual based legal action. Deflecting there at this time is pure supposition.

I think if we let the radicals from either party dictate the government direction the republic is at risk. Worse is we have made extreme partisanship the norm, accepted conspiracies that media is all f**e news, all government is corrupt, legal system is corrupt, e******ns can’t be trusted to pick actual winner. Most all unsupported BS.

Do we have some biased media- yes( fox just paid mucho bucks for f**e reporting on “ s****n e******n”, do we have some corruption in government- any organizations the size of state and federal government will always have some but typically not the majority, is thenlegal system corrupt( first it’s not political, works from written law and documented cases) Do they always get it right, they get it right most times, no occasionally they miss( that’s what appeals are for) , are e******ns accurate- yes. 2020 e******n was most audited at state or federal level, most recounts, most supervised. Trumps IT director of security stated most secure e******n in history- was fired shortly thereafter, Barr said no evidence of fraud and no inconsistencies that would have changed the 2020 e******n outcome.- he was replaced shortly thereafter as well.

So Trump was convicted, the USA is not falling into Marist c*******m government by Biden, the constitution is being upheld- Thank You Mike Pence and others)the court system and e******ns are sound as ever.

If you hear the negative comments day in and day out from biased people, biased media, the corrupt minorities, and Supreme Leader- Trump , you then begin to believe the BS and a small % of people will continue to drive h**e, intolerance , violence and political mayhem across this great nation.

We are not Democrats vs Republicans. we are each individual citizens expressing our free speech right. Each of us has to not make everything political, need to listen to each other to understand differences and where we are alike and cross the gaping partisan divide and be respectful, trusting, loving individuals again and work together not apart for the betterment of the USA.

Cheers!
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We, like the nation, are at a political and spiritual impass. Americans have stark irreconcilable differences and well they should. My bottom line is that if the Marxist Left, you deny, is successful in putting Trump in jail then it is time for the tree of liberty to be refreshed not entirely because of Trump but because the evil the Left represents and promotes must either be destroyed or surrendered to. I h**e it. More than you can ever know, but I also recognize that the visceral hatred existing between right and left is more severe now than that in 1860. There's far more to h**e today than S***ery & States rights. Our war is a spiritual war. During the Civil War both sides continued their same Traditional uncompromising faith as they k**led one another. The Marxist Left, Democrats, have attacked our faith and forced immorality into politics destroying intentionally the balance between Church and State. They have attacked marriage and family and declared human rights on issues that totally degrade our humanity.

"The most terrifying force of death, comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone. They try, so very hard, to mind their own business and provide for themselves and those they love.

They resist every impulse to fight back, knowing the forced and permanent change of life that will come from it. They know, that the moment they fight back, their lives as they have lived them, are over.

The moment the Men who wanted to be left alone are forced to fight back, it is a form of suicide. They are literally k*****g off who they used to be. Which is why, when forced to take up violence, these Men who wanted to be left alone, fight with unholy vengeance against those who murdered their former lives. They fight with raw h**e, and a drive that cannot be fathomed by those who are merely play-acting at politics and terror.

TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy… but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”

-Soviet Dissident, Alexander Solzhenitsyn

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