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Sep 19, 2023 06:35:12   #
elledee
 
debeda wrote:
Palestine was established in 1988


Why didn't they just go back to Syria where they are originally from

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Sep 19, 2023 06:39:26   #
debeda
 
elledee wrote:
Why didn't they just go back to Syria where they are originally from


That's a thought. Tho I think most of that region and more were part of Persia (ottoman empire?) And have been a mess since that fell

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Sep 19, 2023 09:19:56   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
elledee wrote:
Why didn't they just go back to Syria where they are originally from


Seeing as how the majority of them have lived there for thousands of years...

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Sep 19, 2023 11:19:23   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
It's not a f**e.

Anyone can clearly see that it's dated for the year 1947.

So in 1947, the Philistines, still had control of the land.

The very next year however, in 1948. The Israelis kicked the Philistines' ass and took the land which is now called Israel .

Anyone with a high school education should know this.

So no Dudley, it's not a f**e.

It's chronologically correct.

God have them that land and it cannot be taken from them even by biter and un

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Sep 20, 2023 10:22:40   #
pescado rojo
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Seeing as how the majority of them have lived there for thousands of years...


I was going to say that there has been a Jewish presence there that predates any Arab presence, but that would not be accurate. The ancient Hebrews and some of their ancestors, a tribe known as the Hebarri, thought to have come from the Caucasus region have been there from about circa 5000 BC. (By the way, the City of Jericho is almost 11,000 years old if you count the Neolithic settlements it was built on).
I digress. The ancestors of the Jews were there, but they were not Jews at the time. The earliest dates given for Judaism is about 4000 BC. There was not an Arab presence in the area till around 400 BC.
There has been speculation that the ancient Hebrews were somehow related to the Hyksos, who invaded Egypt I think about 1400 BC and basically ended the Egyptian Old Kingdom. Their defeat roughly coincides with the time period in which the Exodus was supposed to have happened. Point being that most of the protagonists were of the same Semitic root stock, with the Hebarri being more "Caucasian," although not blonde haired and blue eyed.
What has this to do with anything? The people being discussed are basically branches of the same tree, differing in politics and religion.

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Sep 20, 2023 20:28:40   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
pescado rojo wrote:
I was going to say that there has been a Jewish presence there that predates any Arab presence, but that would not be accurate. The ancient Hebrews and some of their ancestors, a tribe known as the Hebarri, thought to have come from the Caucasus region have been there from about circa 5000 BC. (By the way, the City of Jericho is almost 11,000 years old if you count the Neolithic settlements it was built on).
I digress. The ancestors of the Jews were there, but they were not Jews at the time. The earliest dates given for Judaism is about 4000 BC. There was not an Arab presence in the area till around 400 BC.
There has been speculation that the ancient Hebrews were somehow related to the Hyksos, who invaded Egypt I think about 1400 BC and basically ended the Egyptian Old Kingdom. Their defeat roughly coincides with the time period in which the Exodus was supposed to have happened. Point being that most of the protagonists were of the same Semitic root stock, with the Hebarri being more "Caucasian," although not blonde haired and blue eyed.
What has this to do with anything? The people being discussed are basically branches of the same tree, differing in politics and religion.
I was going to say that there has been a Jewish pr... (show quote)


Hebrews and Arabs are both semetic...
They have always lived in that area...

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Sep 28, 2023 07:04:11   #
pescado rojo
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Hebrews and Arabs are both semetic...
They have always lived in that area...


I was referring specifically to the part known as Israel. There was doubtless intermarriage with other tribes. The Canaanites are related to the Phoenicians. They are all Semitic peoples, as you said. My point was that the Arab group of Semitic peoples appear to have been the LAST to establish a presence in the area. ( I just read that they were in the area about 900 BC, a little earlier than I previously stated.

https://phoenician.org/origin_of_phoenicians/

Correction: "Hebarii" should be "Hebiru."

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