Armageddun Loc: The show me state

If I may add a thought: Morals describe what people do. Ethic describe what people ought to do. In a real sense our beliefs dictate our behavior. Nothing manifests our value systems more sharply than our actions.

CarolSeer2016

Ok, finally getting back to you.

You say morality is based on the inherent good or evil of any particular action. How, then, do you determine that any action is inherently good or evil? What is your yardstick, so to speak?

CarolSeer2016

I think, DB, that originally a command morality was needed as mankind was, and probably still is unfortunately, in various stages of childhood. I would like to see morals become internalized---once an understanding of the true reason for a command morality becomes evident, perhaps this can occur.

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

Hey Carol,
I sent this to no propaganda please. Could you post some pictures of yourself.

CarolSeer2016

1. I thought, DB, you could use some more sorting out, as far as your understanding of morals. But excuse me for butting in.

2. As I told one of my high school students (when I was tutoring math) when he asked me to marry him: "You really need, John, to get a few more years under your belt before I can seriously consider you for a mate."
Meaning: I'm too mature for you, DB.

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

The church is a man made construction, and the church has varied from time to time, often not being the word of God at all, but the desires of man. The Progressives wish to have the population be the subjects o0f the elite, not because they choose to do so, but because they are forced often at the point of a gun to do so, for example the Soviet Union, China, Cuba and North Korea. God wants us to follow his word, which is the ten commandments, but does not force us to do so. You, for instance, have the ability to have as many sex partners as you wish, God's commandments say no, but man's laws say, do it if you wish to. You can be lazy and demand that others feed and clothe you, man's law says fine we will do so, God's law says be responsible for your own well being, that is part of loving thyself, and says to other people, help this man if he is unable to care for himselfnot just because he is lazy.
Moral relativism says that if some culture sometime in the history of the planet did it, it must be all right to do, whether it is sacrificing children to the great gods of the harvest, capturing members of other groups and making s***es of them, beheading non believers. It goes so far for many people as to contend that if some other species does a behavior it is right, natural and noble for humans to do so as well, whether it is rape, child murder, homosexual behavior,or stealing another animals food when he isn't looking. Frankly I do not care what behavior is appropriate for monkeys, sheep or duck billed platypus except for the survival of their species. It shouldn't change what is wrong or right for humans.

CarolSeer2016

I agree with you, Armageddun: Nothing manifests our value systems more sharply than our actions.

By observing another's actions, we acquire a degree of knowledge of his morals, or value system, and thus are better able to respond to what we believe may be any future actions on his part.

I think that is why assimilation or integration of people from two different cultures takes time and even effort.

If people from one culture could honestly and without fear feel that they will be allowed the freedom of their beliefs, then they will allow the same freedom to others.

A partial solution to the age-old me/thou boundary value problem.

Armageddun Loc: The show me state

:thumbup: :thumbup: Someone once wrote, "As a man thinketh, so he is."

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

I wasn't offended you answered....I hope it didn't sound that way.

CarolSeer2016

Actually, I didn't take it that way. I thought you would like to know I cared enough to make sure you were "sorted out", as they say in G.B.!

CarolSeer2016

As far as your last paragraph, NPP, I absolutely agree with you. It is perhaps the most dangerous and fallacious premise of science in the 20th century to liken human behavior to that of the "lower" animals.

It even appears as if some, if not all scientists, especially those in the social so-called sciences, dislike being human. They have effectively denied, even trampled on, those very qualities that define humanity.

I find that d********g.

Rifleman

No that's just an excuse. They simply LIE! Rights are only for them and no one else. Laws are for everyone else but not them. Morals are what they determine them to be and theirs are superior because they have determined them to be. They h**e people besides themselves having guns, so they compare self defense to murder, except when they have to do it. They dehumanize people when they want them dead, like unborn babies, or soon with elderly people who become sick. They only use the greater good as an excuse.

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

If you want a photograph of NPP go to Prayer Group and look at Even Us Old Goats Like Christmas. Apparently you have been unable to separate the church is all its various incarnations from God. that is a problem many people have God is constant, mans' invention "the church" is not.

Nickolai

If the baker and photographer want to be In a business that deals with the public and don't like dealing with certain segments of the population then perhaps they are In the wrong business and should get in a business that doesn't. If your going to be open to the public then they should serve all or get out.

CarolSeer2016

It would be risible, except for their use of sophistry in persuading the marching morons to believe them.