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Should Students help with the harvest on summer vacations?
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Jun 7, 2023 18:51:52   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
ZUURMATT wrote:
I do agree with the basic intent behind your idea. Problem is, notions like this tend to be proposed by older generations, who, through no fault of their own, have little idea of how little it would do to dent any individuals student loan debt.
The time was, a part-time(or full time) summer job would very easily handle the low costs of a college education. That time is quite a few decades past us, it certainly hasnt existed in my lifetime. I definitely agree that some back-breaking menial labor, of one sort or another, would do the youths some good; but if you look at the math, picking fruit aint gonna dent the cost incurred to earn a degree.
I do agree with the basic intent behind your idea.... (show quote)


Some community colleges are free with very low tuition. Some trade schools and technical colleges will pay your tuition and classes and find you a job after graduation, allowing you to pay off your debt later. Other industries offer apprenticeships with pay.

Not everybody has to go to Harvard with fraternities and football stadiums. At some point, the consumer has to regain control over costs and quality in education and the healthcare..

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Jun 7, 2023 19:04:36   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
JFlorio wrote:
You can blame the rising price of higher education on the dumbass Democrats. I believe most of us were thinking kids around high school age.


Government subsidies drive up costs on everything. From healthcare to education, everything is artificially priced much too high. If the Democrats are worried about the skyrocketing costs of education, healthcare or insurance, they need to ask what is driving up the cost of living for all of us:

1) Karl Marx's counterfeiting government central bank (the federal Reserve Bank)
2) Karl Marx's progressive tax that choaks off growth of competing small businesses.

Has any Representative in Washington suggested the Departments of Education, Agriculture and Commerce arrange for students to help with the harvest? Contrary to popular belief, many agricultural jobs pay good wages, this I know from experience. This would really help drive down our national debt.

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Jun 7, 2023 20:12:29   #
Salvatore
 
Exactly the opposite! We have a bunch of dummies in our colleges and the ones coming up behind them are no bargain either! Just a bunch of mush heads who have been indoctrinated!

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Jun 7, 2023 22:51:25   #
River
 
Proud republican,

I would bet more than three quarters of the students on summer break are NOT too smart to work, but are instead, TOO LAZY to work!

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Jun 7, 2023 22:59:50   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
Students used to help with the harvest, that's why we have summer vacations.

Students could pay off their government student loans.

There would be less attraction for i*****l i*********n.

The homeless people could also help with the harvest.

This would help expand the tax base and increase tax revenue and pay off the national debt.


An interesting idea.

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Or, are today's students too smart to work?


today’s students have an undeserved feeling of self-importance and seem unwilling to seek gainful employment in such fields. An example being, 90% of the pool lifeguards in our geographic area are from Easter European countries. Back in the day, being a pool lifeguard was a highly sought after summer job for tens.

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Jun 8, 2023 05:34:33   #
pescado rojo
 
ZUURMATT wrote:
I do agree with the basic intent behind your idea. Problem is, notions like this tend to be proposed by older generations, who, through no fault of their own, have little idea of how little it would do to dent any individuals student loan debt.
The time was, a part-time(or full time) summer job would very easily handle the low costs of a college education. That time is quite a few decades past us, it certainly hasnt existed in my lifetime. I definitely agree that some back-breaking menial labor, of one sort or another, would do the youths some good; but if you look at the math, picking fruit aint gonna dent the cost incurred to earn a degree.
I do agree with the basic intent behind your idea.... (show quote)


Besides, one of the entitled little darlings might raise a blister on one of their texting thumbs. Here we go with when I was your age....
There weren't a bunch of fast food joints. Young people worked construction and did farm labor for spending money during the summer. The younger ones competed for yards to mow.
Young men who didn't have summer jobs were looked on as either unfortunate, or as spoiled rich kids, depending on circumstance.

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Jun 9, 2023 02:51:59   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
pescado rojo wrote:
Besides, one of the entitled little darlings might raise a blister on one of their texting thumbs. Here we go with when I was your age....
There weren't a bunch of fast food joints. Young people worked construction and did farm labor for spending money during the summer. The younger ones competed for yards to mow.
Young men who didn't have summer jobs were looked on as either unfortunate, or as spoiled rich kids, depending on circumstance.


You might like to read a little book: "The Millionaire Next-door" - wealthy people who have quietly worked all their lives, mowed their own lawns, and cleaned their own houses, their neighbors never suspecting they had amassed millions through hard, honest work. Their kids are just as honest, not flamboyant, and work just as hard.

Contrary, Hollywood hypes all wealthy people as undeserving spoiled brats in an effort to stir up class warfare and envy. Rojo, turn off your TV and labor union indoctrination.

Equal pay for equal work; unequal pay for unequal work.

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Jun 9, 2023 03:13:08   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
AuntiE wrote:
today’s students have an undeserved feeling of self-importance and seem unwilling to seek gainful employment in such fields. An example being, 90% of the pool lifeguards in our geographic area are from Easter European countries. Back in the day, being a pool lifeguard was a highly sought after summer job for tens.


Fascinating, do you recall that Ronald Reagan was once a lifeguard?

I used to sneak jobs at college to pay for supplies. Then they sent the W2 forms back home, (caught in the act and scolded by my parents), never having missed a day of classes. But that was in the 1960s when LSD was legal with Timothy Leary and the CIA, and the entire damned school was tripping with mickies. It was time to switch to a private university and leave the arrogant i***ts behind. I was told by my parents that college students never did drugs - they did not believe me until our neighbor came home with the same experience, insisting she live at
home and drive back and forth to college. Then my mother apologized to me for not listening.

There is no way any of us taxpayers should subsidize these stoned students. Even during the Great Depression there were scholarships for gifted students who did not have a criminal background. After WW2, the GI Bill paid for the soldier's college education - if the soldier wanted further education. Somehow "we the people" have to regain cost control over schooling and healthcare.

Biden vetoed Congress' rescinding college government bailouts. Biden is just buying v**es before the 2024 e******n as his bailouts will be challenged in the Supreme Court.

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