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Jun 6, 2023 21:45:45   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
Students used to help with the harvest, that's why we have summer vacations.

Students could pay off their government student loans.

There would be less attraction for i*****l i*********n.

The homeless people could also help with the harvest.

This would help expand the tax base and increase tax revenue and pay off the national debt.

Or, are today's students too smart to work?

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Jun 6, 2023 22:02:50   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
Students used to help with the harvest, that's why we have summer vacations.

Students could pay off their government student loans.

There would be less attraction for i*****l i*********n.

The homeless people could also help with the harvest.

This would help expand the tax base and increase tax revenue and pay off the national debt.

Or, are today's students too smart to work?


BIG FAT YES!!!πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘

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Jun 6, 2023 22:16:14   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Not to smart. To entitled.
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
Students used to help with the harvest, that's why we have summer vacations.

Students could pay off their government student loans.

There would be less attraction for i*****l i*********n.

The homeless people could also help with the harvest.

This would help expand the tax base and increase tax revenue and pay off the national debt.

Or, are today's students too smart to work?

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Jun 6, 2023 22:46:47   #
Peaver Bogart Loc: Montana
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
Students used to help with the harvest, that's why we have summer vacations.

Students could pay off their government student loans.

There would be less attraction for i*****l i*********n.

The homeless people could also help with the harvest.

This would help expand the tax base and increase tax revenue and pay off the national debt.

Or, are today's students too smart to work?


Hell yes they should. When I was a young lad, I used to go with the harvest from Oklahoma, Kansas, and Nebraska.

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Jun 6, 2023 22:57:30   #
ZUURMATT
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
Students used to help with the harvest, that's why we have summer vacations.

Students could pay off their government student loans.

There would be less attraction for i*****l i*********n.

The homeless people could also help with the harvest.

This would help expand the tax base and increase tax revenue and pay off the national debt.

Or, are today's students too smart to work?


I do agree with the basic intent behind your idea. Problem is, notions like this tend to be proposed by older generations, who, through no fault of their own, have little idea of how little it would do to dent any individuals student loan debt.
The time was, a part-time(or full time) summer job would very easily handle the low costs of a college education. That time is quite a few decades past us, it certainly hasnt existed in my lifetime. I definitely agree that some back-breaking menial labor, of one sort or another, would do the youths some good; but if you look at the math, picking fruit aint gonna dent the cost incurred to earn a degree.

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Jun 6, 2023 23:16:51   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
You can blame the rising price of higher education on the dumbass Democrats. I believe most of us were thinking kids around high school age.

ZUURMATT wrote:
I do agree with the basic intent behind your idea. Problem is, notions like this tend to be proposed by older generations, who, through no fault of their own, have little idea of how little it would do to dent any individuals student loan debt.
The time was, a part-time(or full time) summer job would very easily handle the low costs of a college education. That time is quite a few decades past us, it certainly hasnt existed in my lifetime. I definitely agree that some back-breaking menial labor, of one sort or another, would do the youths some good; but if you look at the math, picking fruit aint gonna dent the cost incurred to earn a degree.
I do agree with the basic intent behind your idea.... (show quote)

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Jun 6, 2023 23:24:00   #
BIRDMAN
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
Students used to help with the harvest, that's why we have summer vacations.

Students could pay off their government student loans.

There would be less attraction for i*****l i*********n.

The homeless people could also help with the harvest.

This would help expand the tax base and increase tax revenue and pay off the national debt.

Or, are today's students too smart to work?


Then what would we do with the 30 million i*****l a***ns

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Jun 6, 2023 23:36:47   #
Peaver Bogart Loc: Montana
 
BIRDMAN wrote:
Then what would we do with the 30 million i*****l a***ns


You know, keep 'em in government paid hotels so they can destroy more of 'em with our tax dollars.

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Jun 6, 2023 23:49:07   #
albertk
 
Peaver Bogart wrote:
You know, keep 'em in government paid hotels so they can destroy more of 'em with our tax dollars.


Send them to live with the NYC mayor.



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Jun 7, 2023 00:48:51   #
ZUURMATT
 
JFlorio wrote:
You can blame the rising price of higher education on the dumbass Democrats. I believe most of us were thinking kids around high school age.


Again, I like the idea, at its core. Although I feel like youre picturing it from the point of view of yourself at that age. Lots of common points of reference simply dont exist anymore, which can make it difficult for older generations to understand why things which were easily obtained/accomplished in your day are unfeasible for my age group to even think of.
This isnt the universal cry of teens to authority, "you just dont understand me!", which all of us have said. Its more. I wont descend into the "ok boomer" dismissal either. Its dumb and counter productive. So is blaming Dems or Repubs.
Try this: pretend youre 18 years old. high school diploma, two parents. what is the first thing 18 year old you needs? a job, correct?
Ok, cool. Tell me how(keep it simple) you plan to get said job. Where do you apply? How do you apply? Give specifics.
The reason I bring up the job out of high school thing, is because my mom (62 years old) has told me as a young adult: youre not looking hard enough, get out and pound the pavement, go in person and ask for a manager, dress nicely, etc. Not bad advice, but completely at odds with how you get hired these past 20 years. She didnt believe me, so i hit Record on my cellphone, and had her sit in the car while I went to various places around town trying to apply for jobs. She, having worked continuously since I was 3, managed to jump up the economic ladder with fairly little effort from a modern perspective, aside from "show up early and do a good job". She got to sit when I played the video of my days attempts, mouth agape at almost all of her advice being applied and not only failing, but a few times I was screamed at. She was right in her starting premise, but having never been forced to start from the ground up nowadays, all the advice was useless. Its not a 'lack of work ethic' we suffer from. Its prior generations with quaint memories of the good ol days who seem unwilling to recognize that our society now is completely different.
So pretend youre 18. Go apply for jobs. Apply for college. Try any number of things that seem simple and easy when you did them. Let me know how far you get before you just wanna set s**t on fire out of helplessness. Seriously.

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Jun 7, 2023 08:24:07   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
I disagree wholeheartedly. It is a lack of work ethic to a degree. No one is saying you can work part time jobs and afford college.
I am talking about work as a teen on up. Builds character. Your teen wants a phone bad enough, go mow lawns, plenty of part time jobs. At least here, in Florida. One of the major reasons college tuition climbed so high is directly related to democrat policies. Colleges have no incentive to lower tuition.

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/obama-created-student-loan-crisis-with-1-trillion-in-loans/

We have many teenage kids in our neighborhood. Everyone of them that wants a job has one. The value of a college education is decreasing. Especially with the ridiculous worthless subjects they offer. This government needs to get out of the college loan business and we need way more trade schools. Certain industries are starving for qualified candidates. They should offer applicants an incentive program.
You’re pretty arrogant. How old are you?
I have all kinds of clients with kids and help them plan for higher education. One of my employees is a certified college advisor. Every 18 year old I know that wants a job gets a job. Might not be exactly what they want pay and fulfillment wise, but thems the breaks.

ZUURMATT wrote:
Again, I like the idea, at its core. Although I feel like youre picturing it from the point of view of yourself at that age. Lots of common points of reference simply dont exist anymore, which can make it difficult for older generations to understand why things which were easily obtained/accomplished in your day are unfeasible for my age group to even think of.
This isnt the universal cry of teens to authority, "you just dont understand me!", which all of us have said. Its more. I wont descend into the "ok boomer" dismissal either. Its dumb and counter productive. So is blaming Dems or Repubs.
Try this: pretend youre 18 years old. high school diploma, two parents. what is the first thing 18 year old you needs? a job, correct?
Ok, cool. Tell me how(keep it simple) you plan to get said job. Where do you apply? How do you apply? Give specifics.
The reason I bring up the job out of high school thing, is because my mom (62 years old) has told me as a young adult: youre not looking hard enough, get out and pound the pavement, go in person and ask for a manager, dress nicely, etc. Not bad advice, but completely at odds with how you get hired these past 20 years. She didnt believe me, so i hit Record on my cellphone, and had her sit in the car while I went to various places around town trying to apply for jobs. She, having worked continuously since I was 3, managed to jump up the economic ladder with fairly little effort from a modern perspective, aside from "show up early and do a good job". She got to sit when I played the video of my days attempts, mouth agape at almost all of her advice being applied and not only failing, but a few times I was screamed at. She was right in her starting premise, but having never been forced to start from the ground up nowadays, all the advice was useless. Its not a 'lack of work ethic' we suffer from. Its prior generations with quaint memories of the good ol days who seem unwilling to recognize that our society now is completely different.
So pretend youre 18. Go apply for jobs. Apply for college. Try any number of things that seem simple and easy when you did them. Let me know how far you get before you just wanna set s**t on fire out of helplessness. Seriously.
Again, I like the idea, at its core. Although I fe... (show quote)

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Jun 7, 2023 10:50:50   #
BIRDMAN
 
albertk wrote:
Send them to live with the NYC mayor.


I think the I******s are gonna try to make it to California



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Jun 7, 2023 15:18:06   #
F.D.R.
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
Students used to help with the harvest, that's why we have summer vacations.

Students could pay off their government student loans.

There would be less attraction for i*****l i*********n.

The homeless people could also help with the harvest.

This would help expand the tax base and increase tax revenue and pay off the national debt.

Or, are today's students too smart to work?


I was thinking the same thing. Maybe what we need is a new Civilian Conservation Corps type program for todays youth. Any able bodied person receiving welfare should also be required to attend a training program or do community service, same for the homeless.

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Jun 7, 2023 15:28:50   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
Students used to help with the harvest, that's why we have summer vacations.

Students could pay off their government student loans.

There would be less attraction for i*****l i*********n.

The homeless people could also help with the harvest.

This would help expand the tax base and increase tax revenue and pay off the national debt.

Or, are today's students too smart to work?


It would definitely teach them how hard people work to put food on their plate

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Jun 7, 2023 15:31:00   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
F.D.R. wrote:
I was thinking the same thing. Maybe what we need is a new Civilian Conservation Corps type program for todays youth. Any able bodied person receiving welfare should also be required to attend a training program or do community service, same for the homeless.


In my day first offenders were offered a choice join the military or prison .The military made some fantastic solders

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