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Feb 9, 2023 21:04:04   #
ForThePeople
 
dtucker300 wrote:
I understand what I wrote. You don't have a sense of humor.



You know what tucker carlson?

If that was intended to be a joke you have a REALLY bad delivery technique. Needs a LOT of work. Needs much more practice during amateur hour before you unveil it live.

I'm not accountable to you FOR SURE so I suggest you confine your lecture series to someone that actually cares about what you accuse me of.

In the meantime, I'm gonna keep replying to ricktlomi cuz he is sincere and not a pretend badass like you.

If you don't like it I'll call mommy.

Comprende'??

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Feb 9, 2023 21:14:07   #
ForThePeople
 
Ricktloml wrote:
It is an absolute necessity to dehumanize these babies...otherwise when they have to admit it IS a baby, (medical science is on the side of life,) and there could be no justification for an a******n for convenience. It's not a glob of tissue/and no one but God Almighty Himself has the right to decide who lives/who dies. Women of America/the world have been given that power to decide who lives/who dies...and that age old saying is true...power corrupts-absolute power corrupts absolutely...now some woman demand the "right" to k**l a child they don't want/plan for. It's ghoulish
It is an absolute necessity to dehumanize these ba... (show quote)


Don't let tucker carlson scare you away with his pretend tough talk.

He is real bold hiding behind his firewall, guaranteed NOT to be in real life.

Keep up the good thinking my friend!!

YOUR OPINION is greatly valued, especially in this place that is populated by packs of jackals.

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Feb 9, 2023 21:25:21   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Ricktloml wrote:
It is an absolute necessity to dehumanize these babies...otherwise when they have to admit it IS a baby, (medical science is on the side of life,) and there could be no justification for an a******n for convenience. It's not a glob of tissue/and no one but God Almighty Himself has the right to decide who lives/who dies. Women of America/the world have been given that power to decide who lives/who dies...and that age old saying is true...power corrupts-absolute power corrupts absolutely...now some woman demand the "right" to k**l a child they don't want/plan for. It's ghoulish
It is an absolute necessity to dehumanize these ba... (show quote)



It is ghoulish and 50 years from now we will judge the decisions women made during this period based on the current morals and values of those making the judgments. We will think of this period in our history as totally devoid of morals and ethics. Women wanted control of their bodies... they could have just said no, or used protection to prevent getting pregnant. My body, my choice... that's what I said about the C***D v*****e and people accused me of trying to k**l Grandma and Grandpa. There is an asymmetry in the way each side insists on accountability for their actions. We base ourselves on ethical and moral values. We have them, but some people don't. As I pointed out in an earlier post, almost everyone refers to the unborn child as a baby. I have never heard a pregnant woman call the child developing inside of her as her fetus.

Having said that, I would never like to see things revert to the old days of back alley a******ns, in unsanitary conditions, that put both mother and child at great risk. And there are times when an a******n is necessary to protect the life of the mother. These instances are very far and few. But they exist. When someone makes a blanket declaration that all a******n is ungodly, unholy, or evil, that's when they lose me. Let God be the judge. And may they be forgiven. It is a terrible thing to have to spend the rest of one's life feeling guilty for a mistake of their youth. They also need our compassion and forgiveness as well. Instead of castigating we should be educating. Work toward changing the law. But currently, the law is, as a result of the Dobbs decision, to let each state determine its own way of dealing with a******n. This is as it should be under our system of Federalism. The federal government should not be in the business of saying who can and who can't have an a******n. It was the left that pushed for a******n to be available throughout the country for any women requesting one on demand.

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Feb 9, 2023 21:41:51   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
ForThePeople wrote:
You know what tucker carlson?

If that was intended to be a joke you have a REALLY bad delivery technique. Needs a LOT of work. Needs much more practice during amateur hour before you unveil it live.

I'm not accountable to you FOR SURE so I suggest you confine your lecture series to someone that actually cares about what you accuse me of.

In the meantime, I'm gonna keep replying to ricktlomi cuz he is sincere and not a pretend badass like you.

If you don't like it I'll call mommy.

Comprende'??
You know what tucker carlson? br br If that was i... (show quote)


I never said you were accountable to me (nor would I want you to be) and if you want people to confine their lectures then you need to limit yours. What did I accuse you of where you didn't draw first blood? Yeah, you call mommy. You have no sense of humor, take yourself far too seriously, and you're not the badass you pretend to be.
Go ahead and keep demonstrating to everyone what a lowlife troll you actually are. Every post you make reveals more about what a reprobate you are. You're insincere, insecure, and a childish narcissist lacking in maturity to get so riled up that you have to attack anyone who disagrees with you.

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Feb 10, 2023 11:59:01   #
ForThePeople
 
dtucker300 wrote:
I never said you were accountable to me (nor would I want you to be) and if you want people to confine their lectures then you need to limit yours. What did I accuse you of where you didn't draw first blood? Yeah, you call mommy. You have no sense of humor, take yourself far too seriously, and you're not the badass you pretend to be.
Go ahead and keep demonstrating to everyone what a lowlife troll you actually are. Every post you make reveals more about what a reprobate you are. You're insincere, insecure, and a childish narcissist lacking in maturity to get so riled up that you have to attack anyone who disagrees with you.
I never said you were accountable to me (nor would... (show quote)



**** Warning: those other than tucker carlson should skip right over this piece. It is intended for him (??) and him (??) alone ****

You know tucker carlson - I really don't want to get into this childish you said / I said bulls**t but here we go:

No - I simply punch back when someone intentionally attempts to attack me.

As a recap, I started this thread about the preposterousness of calling "Pro Choice" NOT "Pro A******n".

Then I was attacked by MANY that seemingly forgot the mainline issue including YOU for expressing MY opinion, focusing on my adjectives rather than thoughts. I admit some of them were harsh.

I thought likeminded people would actually understand what I was referring to but I misjudged it. T***h is, I don't care.

Then, yesterday, another completely NEW person (ricktlomi) weighs in on MY THREAD regarding the mainline topic replying to ME and YOU call ME out in a very derogatory fashion as I was responding to HIM (and NOT YOU).

tucker carlson writes:
"Are you still harping on this? My God man, get a life. You made your point. Give it a rest. This issue has been discussed ad infinitum on OPP. You're not adding anything new to the conversation."

And that was on top of YOU scolding me numerous times (as if you are the "official" referee here) prior for MY choice of words.

THEN it got better, after I called you a douchebag for interfering in MY conversation:

Another tucker carlson original:
"You still not adding anything new to the conversation, and only proving what a douche-bag you are.
You need anger management classes. I tried it and you know what I learned...? I don't have any anger issues. I only need assholes to stop pissing me off. And you've pissed me off. Expect to hear from admin."

So here YOU are calling me a douchebag, which NOT incidentally was the SAME word you used to castigate me on your ANGRY retort and then threatening me as a result.

Nice...

BTW - what kind of childish crap is that? Stop it or I'll tell Mommy....

So, as you have learned, I will surely return fire cuz that's the way I'm wired.

Then YOU go on and respond to the guy that reached out to ME as if he was initiating a conversation with YOU.

Newsflash: He wasn't. And worse yet, you likely scared him off with your obviously harsh tone to ME, not exactly encouraging conversation.

Look buddy (??), I have certain strong beliefs and if you can't handle the way I voice them I don't consider that MY problem. I'm not here to pacify you. That's for sure.

This happens to be a POLITICAL site and the topics are sometimes flammable.

Do I go over the top sometimes, Yes, usually to make a point. And I completely disagree with most liberal ideology.

Just like YOU???

Reread YOUR response and HONESTLY tell me that you are a kinder, gentler, more understanding person than me.

Here is a quick sampling of adjectives from your latest "above-it-all" retort:
lowlife
troll
reprobate
insincere
insecure
childish
narcissist
lacking in maturity

I count EIGHT (8) slurs. And that was just in a few sentences.
You have VERY thin skin - just like a LOT of the Libs around here. Maybe you are??

So, if you think THAT is a more mature way of handling things, you better go back to your psychiatrist for further therapy.

And schedule A LOT of sessions.

P.S. I've wasted enough time on you. I'm a big boy and have WAY better things to do than to carry on a pissing contest with you.

P.S.S. I hope ricktlomi was not collateral damage due to your interference.

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Feb 10, 2023 12:10:27   #
Rose42
 
ForThePeople wrote:
**** Warning: those other than tucker carlson should skip right over this piece. It is intended for him (??) and him (??) alone ****

You know tucker carlson - I really don't want to get into this childish you said / I said bulls**t but here we go:

No - I simply punch back when someone intentionally attempts to attack me.

As a recap, I started this thread about the preposterousness of calling "Pro Choice" NOT "Pro A******n".

Then I was attacked by MANY that seemingly forgot the mainline issue including YOU for expressing MY opinion, focusing on my adjectives rather than thoughts. I admit some of them were harsh.

I thought likeminded people would actually understand what I was referring to but I misjudged it. T***h is, I don't care.

Then, yesterday, another completely NEW person (ricktlomi) weighs in on MY THREAD regarding the mainline topic replying to ME and YOU call ME out in a very derogatory fashion as I was responding to HIM (and NOT YOU).

tucker carlson writes:
"Are you still harping on this? My God man, get a life. You made your point. Give it a rest. This issue has been discussed ad infinitum on OPP. You're not adding anything new to the conversation."

And that was on top of YOU scolding me numerous times (as if you are the "official" referee here) prior for MY choice of words.

THEN it got better, after I called you a douchebag for interfering in MY conversation:

Another tucker carlson original:
"You still not adding anything new to the conversation, and only proving what a douche-bag you are.
You need anger management classes. I tried it and you know what I learned...? I don't have any anger issues. I only need assholes to stop pissing me off. And you've pissed me off. Expect to hear from admin."

So here YOU are calling me a douchebag, which NOT incidentally was the SAME word you used to castigate me on your ANGRY retort and then threatening me as a result.

Nice...

BTW - what kind of childish crap is that? Stop it or I'll tell Mommy....

So, as you have learned, I will surely return fire cuz that's the way I'm wired.

Then YOU go on and respond to the guy that reached out to ME as if he was initiating a conversation with YOU.

Newsflash: He wasn't. And worse yet, you likely scared him off with your obviously harsh tone to ME, not exactly encouraging conversation.

Look buddy (??), I have certain strong beliefs and if you can't handle the way I voice them I don't consider that MY problem. I'm not here to pacify you. That's for sure.

This happens to be a POLITICAL site and the topics are sometimes flammable.

Do I go over the top sometimes, Yes, usually to make a point. And I completely disagree with most liberal ideology.

Just like YOU???

Reread YOUR response and HONESTLY tell me that you are a kinder, gentler, more understanding person than me.

Here is a quick sampling of adjectives from your latest "above-it-all" retort:
lowlife
troll
reprobate
insincere
insecure
childish
narcissist
lacking in maturity

I count EIGHT (8) slurs. And that was just in a few sentences.
You have VERY thin skin - just like a LOT of the Libs around here. Maybe you are??

So, if you think THAT is a more mature way of handling things, you better go back to your psychiatrist for further therapy.

And schedule A LOT of sessions.

P.S. I've wasted enough time on you. I'm a big boy and have WAY better things to do than to carry on a pissing contest with you.

P.S.S. I hope ricktlomi was not collateral damage due to your interference.
**** Warning: those other than tucker carlson shou... (show quote)


Your premise that pro choice is pro a******n is no more than your opinion.

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Feb 10, 2023 12:12:17   #
ForThePeople
 
Rose42 wrote:
Your premise that pro choice is pro a******n is no more than your opinion.


Read it and weep.



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Feb 10, 2023 14:09:13   #
Rose42
 
ForThePeople wrote:
Read it and weep.


As I said its your opinion. Do you understand the meaning of what you posted? It doesn’t mean one is pro a******n because they think a woman should be able to choose. I’ve only met a few people who were really pro a******n and they were all women who used it as a form of birth control. W

Personally I think its wrong and would not support that choice.

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Feb 10, 2023 14:59:23   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
ForThePeople wrote:
**** Warning: those other than tucker carlson should skip right over this piece. It is intended for him (??) and him (??) alone ****

You know tucker carlson - I really don't want to get into this childish you said / I said bulls**t but here we go:

No - I simply punch back when someone intentionally attempts to attack me.

As a recap, I started this thread about the preposterousness of calling "Pro Choice" NOT "Pro A******n".

Then I was attacked by MANY that seemingly forgot the mainline issue including YOU for expressing MY opinion, focusing on my adjectives rather than thoughts. I admit some of them were harsh.

I thought likeminded people would actually understand what I was referring to but I misjudged it. T***h is, I don't care.

Then, yesterday, another completely NEW person (ricktlomi) weighs in on MY THREAD regarding the mainline topic replying to ME and YOU call ME out in a very derogatory fashion as I was responding to HIM (and NOT YOU).

tucker carlson writes:
"Are you still harping on this? My God man, get a life. You made your point. Give it a rest. This issue has been discussed ad infinitum on OPP. You're not adding anything new to the conversation."

And that was on top of YOU scolding me numerous times (as if you are the "official" referee here) prior for MY choice of words.

THEN it got better, after I called you a douchebag for interfering in MY conversation:

Another tucker carlson original:
"You still not adding anything new to the conversation, and only proving what a douche-bag you are.
You need anger management classes. I tried it and you know what I learned...? I don't have any anger issues. I only need assholes to stop pissing me off. And you've pissed me off. Expect to hear from admin."

So here YOU are calling me a douchebag, which NOT incidentally was the SAME word you used to castigate me on your ANGRY retort and then threatening me as a result.

Nice...

BTW - what kind of childish crap is that? Stop it or I'll tell Mommy....

So, as you have learned, I will surely return fire cuz that's the way I'm wired.

Then YOU go on and respond to the guy that reached out to ME as if he was initiating a conversation with YOU.

Newsflash: He wasn't. And worse yet, you likely scared him off with your obviously harsh tone to ME, not exactly encouraging conversation.

Look buddy (??), I have certain strong beliefs and if you can't handle the way I voice them I don't consider that MY problem. I'm not here to pacify you. That's for sure.

This happens to be a POLITICAL site and the topics are sometimes flammable.

Do I go over the top sometimes, Yes, usually to make a point. And I completely disagree with most liberal ideology.

Just like YOU???

Reread YOUR response and HONESTLY tell me that you are a kinder, gentler, more understanding person than me.

Here is a quick sampling of adjectives from your latest "above-it-all" retort:
lowlife
troll
reprobate
insincere
insecure
childish
narcissist
lacking in maturity

I count EIGHT (8) slurs. And that was just in a few sentences.
You have VERY thin skin - just like a LOT of the Libs around here. Maybe you are??

So, if you think THAT is a more mature way of handling things, you better go back to your psychiatrist for further therapy.

And schedule A LOT of sessions.

P.S. I've wasted enough time on you. I'm a big boy and have WAY better things to do than to carry on a pissing contest with you.

P.S.S. I hope ricktlomi was not collateral damage due to your interference.
**** Warning: those other than tucker carlson shou... (show quote)


You've been here for three months. You don't know which people I have a good relationship with. You wasted enough time, and yet you keep coming back for more. You gotta get the last word in because you're an immature narcissist. This is an open forum. People can respond to anyone and anything. What part of the open forum do you not understand? Especially since you started a thread by attacking someone totally out of the blue. Didn't you expect some pushback? Of course not, with your sanctimonious pompous bellicose self-righteousness. You don't want a pissing contest, fine, because I'm not going to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent. Have a nice life.

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Feb 10, 2023 15:39:25   #
ForThePeople
 
Rose42 wrote:
As I said its your opinion. Do you understand the meaning of what you posted? It doesn’t mean one is pro a******n because they think a woman should be able to choose. I’ve only met a few people who were really pro a******n and they were all women who used it as a form of birth control. W

Personally I think its wrong and would not support that choice.


Let's take this definition step by step:

1. Favoring legalized a******n for an unwanted pregnancy.
Pro-A******n or NOT?
I'm going with Pro-A******n.

2. Supportive of a woman's right to choose whether or not to undergo an a******n.
Pro-A******n or NOT?
I'm going with Pro-A******n (again).

3. Advocating a woman's right to control her own body (especially her right to an induced a******n)
Pro-A******n or NOT?
I'm going with Pro-A******n (again, again).

It's difficult to see how it can be interpreted as NOT supporting a******n.
If you have more common-sense info on that topic that is not DNC sourced I am interested.

Personally, I happen to KNOW it's wrong by virtue of the time-honored commandment: "thou shall not murder".

I realize there are a LOT of people out there that think it is acceptable.
I do NOT agree.
And I also cannot be supportive of "their right to choose" that conflicts with the above.

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Feb 10, 2023 15:52:34   #
ForThePeople
 
dtucker300 wrote:
You've been here for three months. You don't know which people I have a good relationship with. You wasted enough time, and yet you keep coming back for more. You gotta get the last word in because you're an immature narcissist. This is an open forum. People can respond to anyone and anything. What part of the open forum do you not understand? Especially since you started a thread by attacking someone totally out of the blue. Didn't you expect some pushback? Of course not, with your sanctimonious pompous bellicose self-righteousness. You don't want a pissing contest, fine, because I'm not going to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent. Have a nice life.
You've been here for three months. You don't know... (show quote)



I really don't give a rats ass WHO you are friends with or HOW long your "entitlement" is.

The part of the "open" forum that YOU don't seem to understand is how YOU feel entitled to criticize MY conversation with someone who RESPONDED TO ME - NOT YOU because I apparently offended your relationship with someone else. Too bad!!

And then, THREATENING to call Mommy on me. Nice....

And just like the hypocrite baby you are, then taking the "high ground" by using equally if not more insulting s**t to ME than I ever wrote and claiming you are superior.

NEWSFLASH: YOU ARE NOT. AND NEVER WILL BE.

So in conclusion, you KNOW where you can stick your brilliant half assed "intellect" - you raging angry pompous ass.

Just sayin'...

P.S. You remain a douchebag.
P.S.S. Don't forget about the intensive psychotherapy you are simply screaming for.

Bye bye.

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Feb 10, 2023 17:10:06   #
Rose42
 
ForThePeople wrote:
Let's take this definition step by step:

1. Favoring legalized a******n for an unwanted pregnancy.
Pro-A******n or NOT?
I'm going with Pro-A******n.

2. Supportive of a woman's right to choose whether or not to undergo an a******n.
Pro-A******n or NOT?
I'm going with Pro-A******n (again).

3. Advocating a woman's right to control her own body (especially her right to an induced a******n)
Pro-A******n or NOT?
I'm going with Pro-A******n (again, again).

It's difficult to see how it can be interpreted as NOT supporting a******n.
If you have more common-sense info on that topic that is not DNC sourced I am interested.

Personally, I happen to KNOW it's wrong by virtue of the time-honored commandment: "thou shall not murder".

I realize there are a LOT of people out there that think it is acceptable.
I do NOT agree.
And I also cannot be supportive of "their right to choose" that conflicts with the above.
Let's take this definition step by step: br br 1.... (show quote)


What you posted is still your opinion and no more. I know people who support a woman’s choice but abhor a******n, think its evil and would never have one. You don’t have to agree with them and wordsmithing won’t make your opinion t***h -no matter how hard you try its still just your opinion

Your mistake is trying to lump people together.

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Feb 10, 2023 17:15:01   #
Rose42
 
ForThePeople wrote:
I really don't give a rats ass WHO you are friends with or HOW long your "entitlement" is.

The part of the "open" forum that YOU don't seem to understand is how YOU feel entitled to criticize MY conversation with someone who RESPONDED TO ME - NOT YOU because I apparently offended your relationship with someone else. Too bad!!

And then, THREATENING to call Mommy on me. Nice....

And just like the hypocrite baby you are, then taking the "high ground" by using equally if not more insulting s**t to ME than I ever wrote and claiming you are superior.

NEWSFLASH: YOU ARE NOT. AND NEVER WILL BE.

So in conclusion, you KNOW where you can stick your brilliant half assed "intellect" - you raging angry pompous ass.

Just sayin'...

P.S. You remain a douchebag.
P.S.S. Don't forget about the intensive psychotherapy you are simply screaming for.

Bye bye.
I really don't give a rats ass WHO you are friends... (show quote)


It looks like its you who doesn’t understand what an open forum is. People can respond to anyone on any topic. Don’t like it? Then you can start your own forum and make your own rules

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Feb 10, 2023 23:16:03   #
ForThePeople
 
Rose42 wrote:
What you posted is still your opinion and no more. I know people who support a woman’s choice but abhor a******n, think its evil and would never have one. You don’t have to agree with them and wordsmithing won’t make your opinion t***h -no matter how hard you try its still just your opinion

Your mistake is trying to lump people together.


OK - then please explain to me what Pro Choice really means in ACTIONS OTHER THAN A******N, especially for ones that are pregnant.

I'm simply categorizing those who push a******n apart from those that don't.

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Feb 10, 2023 23:17:48   #
ForThePeople
 
Rose42 wrote:
It looks like its you who doesn’t understand what an open forum is. People can respond to anyone on any topic. Don’t like it? Then you can start your own forum and make your own rules


I simply don't like people butting in and injecting bulls**t.

Maybe you do?

I realize this is all part of defending your "buddy" BTW.

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