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Nov 24, 2014 09:51:34   #
U.S.A.11
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
I agree with all you say. I may be accused of being a doom and gloom person by some but unless a real change comes to the heart of America I know judgment is coming. God is already sending warning signs.

I believe that, too, Liberty. Judgement day is much closer than anyone ever could even imagine. :) God tells us to take care of one another. Right? Right. So, my question would be, "Why are we inflicting pain, k*****g each other because the victim "looks" a certain way? It has became unbelievably scary to even venture from your home anymore. I know for sure, that God has ALWAYS carried me when I was weak and picked me up whenever I fell. :) I say, just do whats right, under the laws of the land, and the Constitution, and you wont create the anger AND hatred that people have in their hearts. ..we need # VIOLENCEFREEWORLD

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Nov 24, 2014 10:54:00   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
Armageddun wrote:
There is one thing for certain, not only the face but the heart of America is changing. The Left would have people believe that the Right is a bunch of old fogy angry men who do not embrace change.

There is always room for change that is good. But change that is destructive and illegal is wrong I don't care who brings it about.

There are some factors that are set in stone not because we have always done it that way, but because of common sense.

Same sex marriage was, is, and will always be a perversion that leads to disaster on many fronts. Just because a small percentage of the population believes it is right doesn't make it right.
Just because something is legal doesn't make it right.

America has lost its sense of value of human life. We have become a country who uses a******n for birth control to the point of 56 million plus babies have been murdered; yet we will do everything in our power to spend millions to save a snail darter.

We make a big issue of welfare instead of workfare. I am for helping any and every person who cannot help themselves. We are bound morally and spiritually to help the least of these. But there is a very clear spiritual teaching that says those who won't work shouldn't eat. This is not mean, it is logical and justified.
To develop not only one generation but to keep on generation after generation developing people who are totally dependent on the government or anyone for that matter is a crime to humanity.

I know I am ranting on and on, but anyone in their right mind must out of true honesty admit we are on a very dangerous road in our nation. In Luke 21, Jesus said that there will come a time when there is distress among nations with perplexity.

If you explore what these words mean in the original language. it means that Jesus uis saying there will be a time when there is so much confusion and chaos in the world among nations that there will be no answers, no way to figure a way out of the problems that have been created. How are we ever going to pay off a 17 trillion plus national debt.. How are we going to produce an big enough population to reproduce ourselves if we keep k*****g babies at the rate we presently k**l them. How are we going to reproduce ourselves if same sex marriage becomes the norm?

How are we going to defend ourselves if we keep reducing our armed forces and at the same time giving money to countries that h**e us and even vow our destruction?

How are going to develop the work ethic in young people or anyone for that matter if there are no jobs that pay equal or more than welfare? Where is the incentive, where is the motivation?

The Left accuse the Right of being the 1 per-center's, there are just as many rich on the Left as there are on the Right.

The time has come to stop this slide into disaster. We are quickly reaching the point of no return, no way out. We truly are a country that is filled with distress with perplexity.
There is one thing for certain, not only the face... (show quote)


To add to your post for some more perspective...

15 'Signs of the Times' Indicating Judgment
The Bible warns us about saying "everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation" (1 Pet. 3:4) when judgment is at hand. We know that God is "patient not wanting anyone to perish" (v.9), but there comes a time when the gavel falls!

After Hurricane Katrina, a former resident of Louisiana told of growing up hearing warnings of levies breaking but folks simply tuned it out when nothing happened. This describes America today.

If you fell asleep like a Rip Van Winkle for 30 years and awoke today, imagine how shocked you would be at what happened to America.

1. Divorce: Increased from 4% to 51% in one generation.
2. Cohabitation: 65% of "altar-bound" singles live together, a euphemism for lifestyle fornication.
3. A******n: 57 million unborn babies aborted, some with taxpayer funding and now part of socialized medicine.
4. Marijuana: Being legalized in several states.
5. Euthanasia and Infanticide: Being legalized under camouf**ge names.
6. Pornography: Rampant, graphic, just a "click away" on hand-held devices.
7. Homosexuality, lesbian and t*********r lifestyles: Promoted even by our president along with gay marriage and homosexual ordinations.
8. Movies and music: Standards almost nonexistent with graphic nudity, profanity and blasphemy commonplace.
9. Out-of-wedlock births: 1st time in U.S history – more than 50%.
10. Sexually t***smitted diseases: Over 110 million in our population infected.
11. Economic insanity: $18 trillion national debt; millions unemployed deriving benefits; $60 billion in annual Medicare fraud and waste.
12. I*****l i*********n: Over 11 million and politicians pushing open borders and amnesty.
13. Political leaders: Corruption, incompetence and deception at all levels.
14. Radical Islam and terrorism: Exploding in regions of the world with an increasingly vulnerable America dismantling militarily and docile politicians calling it a "peaceful religion."
15. Should we add illiteracy... crime... catastrophic fatherlessness... human trafficking... adultery... profane comedians...an ignorant and low information populace? How about the ongoing erosion of our religious freedoms and secularism taking over society? And last but not least, how about a Laodicean, apostate church compromising and lacking the courage to address the defining issues of our day with clarity and conviction while defining success in terms of happy sermons, attendance, offerings, number of staff, programs and square footage?

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Nov 24, 2014 12:16:26   #
U.S.A.11
 
tmcsea1 wrote:
It's so comforting to know others believe this! I have been trying to make this point. Christians must stand together to protect our nation, under God.

COUNT ME THERE...I AM DEFINATELY STANDING UP WITH THE CHRISTIANS OF THIS GREAT NATION!!!

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Nov 24, 2014 12:58:21   #
cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob
 
mwdegutis wrote:
And therein lies the rub...and our eventual downfall.


:thumbup:

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Nov 24, 2014 13:00:23   #
cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob
 
U.S.A.11 wrote:
COUNT ME THERE...I AM DEFINATELY STANDING UP WITH THE CHRISTIANS OF THIS GREAT NATION!!!


Good for you. Armageddon,send him a p.m. about our prayer and psalm site. :thumbup:

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Nov 24, 2014 13:43:55   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Armageddun wrote:
One Nation Under . . . ?
by Ken Ham on September 14, 2010; last featured November 21, 2014

At one time in the past, the people of the United States generally knew who ruled over the affairs of men—the Creator God of the Bible. They even put His name on their coins and currency. In just one generation that attitude has changed. What happened?
State of the Nation DVDs

This double-DVD pack contains both of Ken Ham’s recent talks on the State of the Nation, “The Collapse of Christian America” and “Reminders Removed.”

The entire western world is changing. Whereas the West was once permeated by Christian thinking, with a predominantly Christian worldview in regard to morality, there has been a dramatic shift.

A******n was once by and large considered to be k*****g a human being and so was basically outlawed. Marriage was once considered to be between one man and one woman. But now gay marriage is increasingly accepted and legalized.

Why has this change occurred? What are the foundational reasons for such a dramatic shift in worldviews?

These same changes (and many more, such as the removal of Christian symbols from public places) are occurring and gathering momentum in what was once considered the greatest Christianized nation on earth—the United States of America.

The changes in America are fundamentally the same as in the rest of the Western world. So in understanding what is happening in America, one can understand why this dramatic shift is occurring in so many countries.
Change is Happening

In 2006 at Call to Renewal’s “Building a Covenant for a New America” conference, then-Senator Barack Obama stated: “Wh**ever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation; we are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers.”1

He repeated this same message in his book The Audacity of Hope2 and later in his inauguration address.3 During a trip to Turkey in early 2009, President Obama reiterated a similar message to Turkey’s Muslim president:

“I’ve said before that one of the great strengths of the United States is, although as I mentioned we have a very large Christian population, we do not consider ourselves a Christian nation or a Jewish nation or a Muslim nation; we consider ourselves a nation of citizens who are bound by ideals and a set of values.”4

There is no doubt that President Obama is declaring that America has fundamentally changed. But what is the change he is referring to?

The essence of the change can be summed up with another quote from him. President Obama formally declared:

Now, therefore, I, Barack Obama, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim June 2010 as Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and T*********r P***e Month. I call upon all Americans to observe this month by fighting prejudice and discrimination in their own lives and everywhere it exists. . . . Barack Obama.5

At a Human Rights Campaign dinner in 2009, the president stated:
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My expectation is that when you look back on these years . . . , you will see a time in which we as a nation finally recognize relationships between two men and two women as just as real and admirable as relationships between a man and a woman.6

The change from a worldview that viewed marriage as a special union between a man and a woman, to one that redefines marriage as a relationship between any two individuals (man and man, or woman and woman) really sums up the change the current leader of the U.S. is referring to. It is really a change from building one’s thinking on the Bible beginning in Genesis (where we learn about the origin of marriage when God made the first male and female) to a worldview in which mankind can determine new definitions of marriage.
What Led to This Change?

Change in America reflects a shift from Christianity’s absolutes to the relative morality of human opinions.

In essence this change reflects a shift between the world’s two opposing religions. Ultimately there are only two religions—one starts with God’s Word and the other starts with man’s word. America—and the whole Western world—once built its worldview predominantly on the Bible. Now a shift has occurred, as the West’s worldview is being built on man’s word. This change is reflected in a shift from Christianity’s absolutes to the relative morality of human opinions.

A secular humanist magazine recently ran a cover story on “Fading Faith.” The article stated:

A historic t***sition is occurring, barely noticed. Slowly, quietly, imperceptibly, religion is shriveling in America, as it already has in Europe, Canada, Australia, Japan—across the developed world. Increasingly, supernatural faith belongs to the third world. The first world is entering the long-predicted Secular Age, when science and knowledge dominate.7

The president of the United States, the secular humanists, and Christians all recognize the change. However, is this change positive, as the secularists trumpet and as the U.S. president proclaims?

Sadly, this foundational change is affecting hearts and minds in regard to eternal matters. Fundamentally the secularists have captured the hearts and minds of generations of kids (for example, two-thirds of young people from church homes will leave the church by the time they reach college age8). They have secularized their thinking by changing their starting point from God’s Word to man’s word—thus changing their worldview. After generations of such change, we now see the effect on the changing worldview of the whole culture.

The major way this change has occurred is through the education system and media, which teach that evolution over millions of years is fact, causing many young people to doubt and ultimately disbelieve the Scriptures. Sadly, much of the church aided this change by endorsing millions of years and evolutionary ideas, while trying to instill a Christian worldview in other areas (such as Christian morality, marriage as one man and one woman, and a******n as murder).

Wh**ever we once were we are no longer! These words really mean that America as a nation no longer builds its thinking on God’s Word, but man can determine t***h for himself. America has changed religion—from Christianity to a man-centered religion. This spiritual disaster is now reflected in this nation’s economic and moral disaster.
So What is the Solution?

Wh**ever we once were we need to return to. The only solution for this nation (and every other nation) is to return to the authority of God’s Word as the foundation for our individual and cultural worldviews.

As Psalm 11:3 states, “If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?”
One Nation Under . . . ? br by Ken Ham on Septembe... (show quote)



Yes, we need to keep fighting for the beliefs in God that made this country what is was until recently. If we don't then who will? Without a belief in God as a superior power, we have no reason to declare anything right or wrong, as all the laws we have are built on the premise that there is an absolute moral standard that should be our guide throughout life, even though we can never actually attain it. People who are athiesists claim that those rules of right and wrong are in our genetic code and God has nothing to do with it. THEY ARE WRONG as should be evidenced by the pagan beliefs in sacrificing children and women to appease their gods, and the ease with which we can excuse murder, rape, sexual assault on children, as well as stealing and lying as if they didn't matter. By believing that there is nothing greater than the human being and that he is never flawed, we are doing just what the forces of evil want us to do. While there may still be time we must say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH God's laws must prevail. We here have the opportunity to learn from each other how to better serve the will of God, and we must use that opportunity while it is still available. we are quickly being silenced by the agents of darkness.

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Nov 24, 2014 14:24:06   #
U.S.A.11
 
robby1 wrote:
Someday there will be a war and Jesus will be leading all his saved into battle to take revenge on sin. stay tuned for his coming.


I can hardly wait!!! Whew,it sure is tough fighting alone down here sometimes! :)

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Nov 24, 2014 14:27:16   #
Liberty Tree
 
U.S.A.11 wrote:
I can hardly wait!!! Whew,it sure is tough fighting alone down here sometimes! :)


Remember Elijah once thought he was alone and God reminded him that he wasn't and neither are you.

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Nov 24, 2014 15:03:21   #
robby1
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Have you read any of Jonathan Kahn's books or seen his video's on the Isaiah 9:10 judgment and the coming Shemita?

Someone once said you can't go back. When God saves somebody it is forever. You can't go back. God's gifts and calling are irrevocable. Romans 11 29.

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Nov 24, 2014 15:31:43   #
U.S.A.11
 
Armageddun wrote:
There is one thing for certain, not only the face but the heart of America is changing. The Left would have people believe that the Right is a bunch of old fogy angry men who do not embrace change.

There is always room for change that is good. But change that is destructive and illegal is wrong I don't care who brings it about.

There are some factors that are set in stone not because we have always done it that way, but because of common sense.

Same sex marriage was, is, and will always be a perversion that leads to disaster on many fronts. Just because a small percentage of the population believes it is right doesn't make it right.
Just because something is legal doesn't make it right.

America has lost its sense of value of human life. We have become a country who uses a******n for birth control to the point of 56 million plus babies have been murdered; yet we will do everything in our power to spend millions to save a snail darter.

We make a big issue of welfare instead of workfare. I am for helping any and every person who cannot help themselves. We are bound morally and spiritually to help the least of these. But there is a very clear spiritual teaching that says those who won't work shouldn't eat. This is not mean, it is logical and justified.
To develop not only one generation but to keep on generation after generation developing people who are totally dependent on the government or anyone for that matter is a crime to humanity.

I know I am ranting on and on, but anyone in their right mind must out of true honesty admit we are on a very dangerous road in our nation. In Luke 21, Jesus said that there will come a time when there is distress among nations with perplexity.

If you explore what these words mean in the original language. it means that Jesus uis saying there will be a time when there is so much confusion and chaos in the world among nations that there will be no answers, no way to figure a way out of the problems that have been created. How are we ever going to pay off a 17 trillion plus national debt.. How are we going to produce an big enough population to reproduce ourselves if we keep k*****g babies at the rate we presently k**l them. How are we going to reproduce ourselves if same sex marriage becomes the norm?

How are we going to defend ourselves if we keep reducing our armed forces and at the same time giving money to countries that h**e us and even vow our destruction?

How are going to develop the work ethic in young people or anyone for that matter if there are no jobs that pay equal or more than welfare? Where is the incentive, where is the motivation?

The Left accuse the Right of being the 1 per-center's, there are just as many rich on the Left as there are on the Right.

The time has come to stop this slide into disaster. We are quickly reaching the point of no return, no way out. We truly are a country that is filled with distress with perplexity.
There is one thing for certain, not only the face... (show quote)


I agree with everything that you just said. Completely. I also feel there should be a certain criteria that should be met, before anyone is just given a check. it is unreal how many people are "waiting on their disability." As if, its something to be proud of! We are becoming a lazy America. One who is forced to rely on an i***t in charge, to dictate our lives!

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Nov 24, 2014 15:36:35   #
U.S.A.11
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Yes, we need to keep fighting for the beliefs in God that made this country what is was until recently. If we don't then who will? Without a belief in God as a superior power, we have no reason to declare anything right or wrong, as all the laws we have are built on the premise that there is an absolute moral standard that should be our guide throughout life, even though we can never actually attain it. People who are athiesists claim that those rules of right and wrong are in our genetic code and God has nothing to do with it. THEY ARE WRONG as should be evidenced by the pagan beliefs in sacrificing children and women to appease their gods, and the ease with which we can excuse murder, rape, sexual assault on children, as well as stealing and lying as if they didn't matter. By believing that there is nothing greater than the human being and that he is never flawed, we are doing just what the forces of evil want us to do. While there may still be time we must say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH God's laws must prevail. We here have the opportunity to learn from each other how to better serve the will of God, and we must use that opportunity while it is still available. we are quickly being silenced by the agents of darkness.
Yes, we need to keep fighting for the beliefs in G... (show quote)


AMEN!!!

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Nov 24, 2014 15:57:47   #
Grugore
 
U.S.A.11 wrote:
I agree with everything that you just said. Completely. I also feel there should be a certain criteria that should be met, before anyone is just given a check. it is unreal how many people are "waiting on their disability." As if, its something to be proud of! We are becoming a lazy America. One who is forced to rely on an i***t in charge, to dictate our lives!


Not waiting for mine anymore. Thank God. At least I can honestly say I deserve it.

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Nov 24, 2014 18:30:41   #
bahmer
 
U.S.A.11 wrote:
I agree with everything that you just said. Completely. I also feel there should be a certain criteria that should be met, before anyone is just given a check. it is unreal how many people are "waiting on their disability." As if, its something to be proud of! We are becoming a lazy America. One who is forced to rely on an i***t in charge, to dictate our lives!


Benjamin Franklin wrote the following.

I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I traveled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.

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Nov 24, 2014 18:39:42   #
Workinman Loc: Bayou Pigeon
 
rumitoid wrote:
Foremost, America is not a Christian. That may be tough to swallow. Earthly laws of e******y have priority and precedent in America, not in the Bible. America has never built its thinking on God's word: study it's history.


Really.. Why does our money say in God we trust, the pledge of allegiance, in court..so help me God...if you read our founders papers why is God so prevalent in their writings???

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Nov 24, 2014 18:58:58   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
Workinman wrote:
Really.. Why does our money say in God we trust, the pledge of allegiance, in court..so help me God...if you read our founders papers why is God so prevalent in their writings???


He is an ignorant imbecile so please treat him as such.

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