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So What Do You Think About Republican's "Idea" On A Flat Sales Tax Tax System?
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Jan 29, 2023 09:50:46   #
Mikeyavelli
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Not quite. There ARE worthwhile things that are best done, for various reasons, by society as a group. Those must be paid for by society, and taxes are probably the least damaging way to do so.
However, what I would like to see, and I believe this was the intention of the founders when they wrote the Constitution, is for the federal government to be limited to ONLY the activities that are EXPRESSLY given to them in WRITING within the Constitution, or amendments. And none of this 'implied' garbage the lunatic left likes to come up with.
For example, the government should be able to tax in order to pay for national defense, the postal service, border security, and the few other things written in the Constitution. EVERYTHING ELSE that Congress wants to spend money on 'for the good of society', must be paid for with voluntary contributions by the citizens. Examples would be a national highway system, space exploration, funding for medical research, etc. Anything deemed important enough to justify taxation funding would REQUIRE an amendment!
This would mean that Congress would have to CONVINCE Americans to donate money to the general fund in order pay for their projects.
Imagine that. A flat tax could be as little as 3% of each person's income. That would cover the mandated necessities of the government. But each person could make donations either into the general treasury for Congress to spend as they deem wise, or they could make specific donations for a particular project. States could make donations for highway systems. Corporations could make donations for housing projects for public t***sportation. If the feds can't do it efficiently, the funding simply drys up. And the government would HAVE to pay attention to the v**ers in order to keep them happy enough to keep on donating.
This is just an idea, and as always the devil would be in the details, but just think of it! A political playground where the players are completely dependent of making their constituents satisfied with their work.
Not quite. There ARE worthwhile things that are b... (show quote)


You make sense, and a good plan. The trouble is, more than 3 politicians gathered together will find a way to take your money and use it as they see fit.

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Jan 29, 2023 10:21:29   #
BIRDMAN
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Duh !
That is equally !!!!!



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Jan 29, 2023 14:02:03   #
Mikeyavelli
 
Now that there is funny.

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Jan 29, 2023 15:20:58   #
Sonny Magoo Loc: Where pot pie is boiled in a kettle
 
woodguru wrote:
Anyone using their brains understands this is a severely half baked idea that was pulled out of a few whack job's butts...do you "think" anyone sponsoring this thing ever took even a few days to crunch the numbers for any shred of viability?

The details would be even funnier than the broad concept, which is a joke. Gee, what do you think would happen with caps that would affect wealthy people?
...Vehicles taxed up to $75k, anything more would be unfair to wealthy people
...Home mortgages up to say $750k, anything over that would punish wealthy people
Anyone using their brains understands this is a se... (show quote)


It's a consumption tax. It promotes saving money. Something most of the young people know nothing about.

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Jan 29, 2023 15:23:34   #
336Robin Loc: North Carolina
 
woodguru wrote:
Anyone using their brains understands this is a severely half baked idea that was pulled out of a few whack job's butts...do you "think" anyone sponsoring this thing ever took even a few days to crunch the numbers for any shred of viability?

The details would be even funnier than the broad concept, which is a joke. Gee, what do you think would happen with caps that would affect wealthy people?
...Vehicles taxed up to $75k, anything more would be unfair to wealthy people
...Home mortgages up to say $750k, anything over that would punish wealthy people
Anyone using their brains understands this is a se... (show quote)



The republican tax proposal is about the dumbest thing yet.

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Jan 29, 2023 15:29:30   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
336Robin wrote:
The republican tax proposal is about the dumbest thing yet.

In detail, what do you think is dumb about it? If it’s about the dumbest thing, what do you think is the dumbest thing?

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Jan 29, 2023 16:37:08   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
JR-57 wrote:
In detail, what do you think is dumb about it? If it’s about the dumbest thing, what do you think is the dumbest thing?


336

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Jan 30, 2023 00:48:10   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Fab wrote:
You really just don’t understand wealth do you?


***You really just don’t understand wealth do you?
>>>Actually I do. They earned it, whether by work or risk and investment. It is theirs. If you want it, do the same.

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Jan 30, 2023 00:49:02   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Milosia2 wrote:
If I pay 23% ,
millionaires and billionaires should pay at least 23%
Unearned income is not from people working. Hence ..unearned.
We wouldn’t be chasing people around trying to steal the money they’ve paid into
social security their whole lives.
This could solve a multitude of national problems . The ones we always try to solve
by beating money out of the peasants.
Instead of the ones who have all of the money.


Gibberish

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Jan 30, 2023 00:49:57   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Seriously ????
23% is as dear to me as it to them.
Why do you think they should pay less ?


No more and no less.

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Jan 30, 2023 00:55:10   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
336Robin wrote:
The republican tax proposal is about the dumbest thing yet.


Why? And be very specific and your thoughts not something someone else wrote

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Jan 30, 2023 09:25:49   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
American Vet wrote:
Typical for a socialist - opposed to the concept that all people should be treated equally.

Take money from people who work and give it to deadbeats such as yourself.

Doggy



Hedgefunders don’t work.
They now have a program that automatically buys and sells stocks.
This is now done at the turtles pace of
70,000 stock trades per second.
Per second.
Plug it in and watch the money roll in .
No muss. no Fuss.
And
No work !

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Jan 30, 2023 10:06:34   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Hedgefunders don’t work.
They now have a program that automatically buys and sells stocks.
This is now done at the turtles pace of
70,000 stock trades per second.
Per second.
Plug it in and watch the money roll in .
No muss. no Fuss.
And
No work !

Your jealousy and envy are showing again. You’re such a victim.

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Jan 30, 2023 14:14:13   #
coelacanth Loc: Michigan swamp
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Not quite. There ARE worthwhile things that are best done, for various reasons, by society as a group. Those must be paid for by society, and taxes are probably the least damaging way to do so.
However, what I would like to see, and I believe this was the intention of the founders when they wrote the Constitution, is for the federal government to be limited to ONLY the activities that are EXPRESSLY given to them in WRITING within the Constitution, or amendments. And none of this 'implied' garbage the lunatic left likes to come up with.
For example, the government should be able to tax in order to pay for national defense, the postal service, border security, and the few other things written in the Constitution. EVERYTHING ELSE that Congress wants to spend money on 'for the good of society', must be paid for with voluntary contributions by the citizens. Examples would be a national highway system, space exploration, funding for medical research, etc. Anything deemed important enough to justify taxation funding would REQUIRE an amendment!
This would mean that Congress would have to CONVINCE Americans to donate money to the general fund in order pay for their projects.
Imagine that. A flat tax could be as little as 3% of each person's income. That would cover the mandated necessities of the government. But each person could make donations either into the general treasury for Congress to spend as they deem wise, or they could make specific donations for a particular project. States could make donations for highway systems. Corporations could make donations for housing projects for public t***sportation. If the feds can't do it efficiently, the funding simply drys up. And the government would HAVE to pay attention to the v**ers in order to keep them happy enough to keep on donating.
This is just an idea, and as always the devil would be in the details, but just think of it! A political playground where the players are completely dependent of making their constituents satisfied with their work.
Not quite. There ARE worthwhile things that are b... (show quote)


I paid my fair share for 42 years of toiling. I retired in the Spring of 2006 due to a brain aneurism that totally disabled me for life and that year was the last year I had enough income to tax. All of my pension and SS money added up isn't enough to trigger a tax. When my better half signs up for her SS, that extra $300.00 and the $250.00 a month bump that I got this year will probably send us into the abyss.

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Jan 30, 2023 14:35:33   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
coelacanth wrote:
I paid my fair share for 42 years of toiling. I retired in the Spring of 2006 due to a brain aneurism that totally disabled me for life and that year was the last year I had enough income to tax. All of my pension and SS money added up isn't enough to trigger a tax. When my better half signs up for her SS, that extra $300.00 and the $250.00 a month bump that I got this year will probably send us into the abyss.

What do you mean by abyss?

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