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Jan 12, 2023 07:43:29   #
guzzimaestro
 
robertv3 wrote:
By that standard all the immigrants from Europe in the late 1400s, and in the 1500s and so on, should have been treated as criminals, but instead the first ones survived the winter and made a foothold because the natives helped them survive.


Big difference. European immigrants built this country, pledged allegiance to it and defended it. South American and Muslim immigrants contribute nothing, wave the f**gs of the country they fled, and are a d**g on the economy.

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Jan 12, 2023 08:15:09   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
guzzimaestro wrote:
Big difference. European immigrants built this country, pledged allegiance to it and defended it. South American and Muslim immigrants contribute nothing, wave the f**gs of the country they fled, and are a d**g on the economy.


Exactly. If they love their country so much, they should have stayed there!

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Jan 12, 2023 08:29:18   #
Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich
 
proud republican wrote:
I'm soooooo tired of hearing how we should help people who come here illegally... How they want better life for their kids!!.. How we should care for them!!... How this country is country of immigrants!...BS!!.. Yes people want better life for their kids, but they should come here legally like most immigrants do...Apply in your country and wait your fricking turn... People are trying to c***t, jumping the line, it's not fair for people who obey the law and come here legally.. If you cross the Border illegally you are committing crime, you should face punishment and be deported!.... ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!..
I'm soooooo tired of hearing how we should help pe... (show quote)


As long as "today's"...Demoncrats are running the show...[ EXPECT}...malfeasance in office...."Illegal ANYTHING"

IT'S WHAT America has come to "expect"....ineptness, malfeasance, criminality...all going "un-noticed"...[ except by a handful of republicans]...&, who listens to them, when we have a Demoncrat President, Congress, & a 50/50 Senate? [ They just laugh at us}

American e*****rate..[ Both sides}...had better "come alive", get responsible...or your resulting families, will all be speaking Chinese, & Russian! Freedom?...[ Better not speak that word, or you go straight to the Gulag!]

Want to know what happens to people that are numbed in the head, & self centered, non-caring, & complacent? read "Alexsander Solgeneitzen"....*Gulag Archipelago! it will scare the pants off anyone, that dares to do that!

Seriously Folks.....get a life, so that your Children can enjoy what America "Used to have"!

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Jan 12, 2023 08:53:50   #
son of witless
 
robertv3 wrote:
By that standard all the immigrants from Europe in the late 1400s, and in the 1500s and so on, should have been treated as criminals, but instead the first ones survived the winter and made a foothold because the natives helped them survive.


This ain't the 1400 and 1500s. By the way, how the frack did your ancestors get here ? Why don't you slither back to where they came from ?

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Jan 12, 2023 09:20:20   #
TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA
 
robertv3 wrote:
By that standard all the immigrants from Europe in the late 1400s, and in the 1500s and so on, should have been treated as criminals, but instead the first ones survived the winter and made a foothold because the natives helped them survive.


Wouldn’t that be judging them by today’s standards?

Were those natives helping the immigrants to break their own local laws? Were those natives stealing resources through taxes unwillingly or deceptively from their countrymen to illegally subsidize the “illegal” immigrants?

Were the natives building walls around their own homes while decrying the morality of walls being used to defend against foreign “illegal“ immigrants?

Or were both immigrants and natives simply living by the standards of their day?

See the difference?

Being complicit in i*****l i*********n today by Americans is nothing less than an act of treason by those who have no loyalty to nor admiration for our constitution and our way of life. They really do not understand that the liberties and responsibilities our constitution enumerate are “beneficial” and highly superior to their socialistic, godless worldview.

That’s why they want to “fundamentally t***sform” our country and they have no qualms or hesitation to scrap the constitution and rewrite a new one (and impose their godless belief in humanism) according to their current l*****t worldview which they have been indoctrinated and propagandized to believe is preferable. (For point of reference, these are the same people who can’t bring themselves to admit the biological fact that male and female are determined by DNA and made obvious by g*****lia, and think it’s a “right” to murder living unborn humans, even after they survive an a******n attempt and are breathing air, and want us to believe they know what’s morally “right”).

When the native Americans realized the immigrants didn’t plan on merely occupying a small portion of land, but came to colonize the land and “fundamentally t***sform” their whole way of life and bring them into submission, were they pleased? No. They began fighting for their lives to keep their liberties and their way of life. But by then it was too late. The tide was too strong. The rest is history.

That’s what this current wave of immigrants are doing, and l*****ts and sell-out politicians are way too eager to let it happen!

They are t*****rs. Just like the natives who worked with the immigrants to help eradicate their own countrymen.

What would this world look like, how far back in history would we have to go, to “restore” every land and people to the original state of who owned what before “illegal” (by today’s standard) conquests took land and cultures from the original inhabitants? Totally infeasible.

Today’s “i*****l i*********n enablers” want to take us back to serfdom.

That’s not progress.

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Jan 12, 2023 09:28:37   #
BIRDMAN
 
guzzimaestro wrote:
Big difference. European immigrants built this country, pledged allegiance to it and defended it. South American and Muslim immigrants contribute nothing, wave the f**gs of the country they fled, and are a d**g on the economy.


You’re damn right we built this country

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Jan 12, 2023 09:36:48   #
guzzimaestro
 
Birdmam wrote:
You’re damn right we built this country



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Jan 12, 2023 10:25:38   #
DASHY
 
proud republican wrote:
But according to Dems and some Republicans we need i******s to do jobs Americans won't do, which I think is total BS! 🙄


Domestic farm workers don't seem to exit. If you want to see lower food prices, contact your senators and urge them to pass the Farm Workforce Modernization Act, which will provide farmers with a stable reliable workforce of immigrants. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/farmers-pushing-immigration-reform-counter-labor-shortages-escalating-rcna45741

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Jan 12, 2023 10:32:22   #
DASHY
 
proud republican wrote:
So you're ok with people c***ting to come here? My family waited for yes to come here.. We filled out papers and waited for 5 yrs before we came.. We were running from religious prosecutions being Jewish.. But we played by the rules.. This is how it should be!


I GOT MINE! A fortunate Jewish immigrant wants to judge newcomers and keep everybody else out.

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Jan 12, 2023 10:55:57   #
Fab
 
Unless our government recognizes our borders are closed to aliens without paperwork we will always have the problem. You can’t cross into any other country without paperwork and then it’s difficult. It’s even more difficult getting into Mexico even with proper paperwork. You even have to show proof that you can afford to move to Mexico to be able to live there so you’re not a burden of the country. That’s the way it should be.

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Jan 12, 2023 11:03:51   #
BIRDMAN
 
DASHY wrote:
Domestic farm workers don't seem to exit. If you want to see lower food prices, contact your senators and urge them to pass the Farm Workforce Modernization Act, which will provide farmers with a stable reliable workforce of immigrants. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/farmers-pushing-immigration-reform-counter-labor-shortages-escalating-rcna45741





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Jan 12, 2023 11:13:05   #
son of witless
 
DASHY wrote:
I GOT MINE! A fortunate Jewish immigrant wants to judge newcomers and keep everybody else out.


So you are happy about your boy Joe letting in millions and millions of criminals ?

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Jan 12, 2023 11:21:00   #
currahee506
 
This lawless situation of homelessness and i*****l a***ns is due to the anti-American rhetoric of those schooled in the evil principles of Marxism. One of these principles is found in the "Alinsky Lucifarian dedicated book on revolution, "Rules for Radicals," a guide occupying the mindset of the Bushes, Clintons, and Obamas, all CFR persons, "Use the democratic verbiage to make political policies to set the capitalistic system against itself by overwhelming it with foreign population. Suppose you read the history of the Jesuits, Jacobins, and many other so-called "democratic" elitist groups. In that case, you will realize that their mindset is directed toward the need to control the world population. grouped into "one money, one politic, and one religion"; and, it can only be done, as far as they are concerned, by destroying wh**ever freedom a country has to be left alone to enjoy it.
These elitists do not care about "fixing" any problem permanently. They care only about making you feel guilty about not caring about fixing a problem temporarily the way they "feel" if they were in your shoes (which they believe they are not). "Making you feel guilty" is how they get control. And, since you know the "liberal way" is based on their nonsense and illusory projected judgment of reality, you must either laugh at them and see their idiocy displayed in mockery on the comedy hour, or, ignore them and go your way. NEVER PUT THEM IN OFFICE OR IN ANY PLACE WHERE THEY CAN GET CONTROL OF YOUR MONEY.

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Jan 12, 2023 11:54:08   #
Kevyn
 
proud republican wrote:
I'm soooooo tired of hearing how we should help people who come here illegally... How they want better life for their kids!!.. How we should care for them!!... How this country is country of immigrants!...BS!!.. Yes people want better life for their kids, but they should come here legally like most immigrants do...Apply in your country and wait your fricking turn... People are trying to c***t, jumping the line, it's not fair for people who obey the law and come here legally.. If you cross the Border illegally you are committing crime, you should face punishment and be deported!.... ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!..
I'm soooooo tired of hearing how we should help pe... (show quote)


In most instances there is no way for them to come here under existing policy because there are far too few opportunities to do so because the number is severely limited by nation. People fleeing violence and persecution can’t wait for several decades.

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Jan 12, 2023 11:56:31   #
okie don
 
" A welfare state with open borders.
What could possibly go wrong?"

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