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Dec 11, 2022 09:59:44   #
American Vet
 
jimpack123 wrote:
because it is cheaper to export our oil big oil wants to make money not invest


That's right - Why would a company invest when the FJB and cabal have threatened to 'end oil'? It takes millions to 'invest' to build a refinery. That needs to change - but FJB is beholden to the environmental/climate extremists.

The best path for American to become energy independent is by using the HUGE capabilities we have. Then begin research into other options in a careful, controlled manner - instead of rushing crazily into wind/solar and their well-documented inadequacies and failures.

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Dec 11, 2022 10:40:19   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
jimpack123 wrote:
only because we dont have any refineries we should be building new refineries


There we can agree and you should know it is the loons in the Democrat Party that have made that all but impossible.
https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/welcome-to-the-consequences-of-your-actions-democrats/

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Dec 11, 2022 12:08:19   #
Truth be known
 
Milosia2 wrote:
We were energy independent until republicans like Trump and Rex Tillerson decided to export our oil for profit.
To ignore this fact makes you all complicit . It is not how things work.
We were already energy independent.
Obama’s policies kept us independent.
Trump exxed out Obama’s independent policies favoring Exxon Profit , over youz .
Stop exporting our oil and gas for profit , and we can be energy independent again.


What are you smoking?
I would like to become as delusional as you that way I would not be concerned with the future of these UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!

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Dec 11, 2022 12:29:30   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
JFlorio wrote:
There we can agree and you should know it is the loons in the Democrat Party that have made that all but impossible.
https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/welcome-to-the-consequences-of-your-actions-democrats/


Biden should open up more federal land for oil as long as Big oil agrees to build and update Refineries, but will Congress go along with it? Didn't see Trump getting more refineries built either or did I miss something?

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Dec 11, 2022 12:48:45   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
jimpack123 wrote:
Biden should open up more federal land for oil as long as Big oil agrees to build and update Refineries, but will Congress go along with it? Didn't see Trump getting more refineries built either or did I miss something?


At the time, the refineries we had were all that was needed. The last major refinery was built in 1977. Environmental regulations and the Democrat war on f****l f**ls has made it near impossible to build a major refinery. You cna't ever debate anything, so you have to bring up Trump. People on your side just don't realize he's not president anymore.

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Dec 11, 2022 13:12:43   #
Weswill
 
Milosia2 wrote:
We were energy independent until republicans like Trump and Rex Tillerson decided to export our oil for profit.
To ignore this fact makes you all complicit . It is not how things work.
We were already energy independent.
Obama’s policies kept us independent.
Trump exxed out Obama’s independent policies favoring Exxon Profit , over youz .
Stop exporting our oil and gas for profit , and we can be energy independent again.


What do you suggest we do with excess oil that we produce? But our dependence on foreign oil began with the Biden administration. If we were already energy independent why was that not mentioned during the 8 years of Obamas presidency? Strange wouldn't you say? Trump is the one who lessened regulations so we could be energy independent not Obama. If Obama had done it then he would have been impeached for going against c*****e c****e policies.

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Dec 11, 2022 13:41:32   #
American Vet
 
jimpack123 wrote:
Biden should open up more federal land for oil as long as Big oil agrees to build and update Refineries, ?


He has stated several times that he intends to 'end oil'. Why would they invest millions in updating old refineries and building new ones with FJB and cabal threatening to 'end oil'?

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Dec 11, 2022 14:36:16   #
wilpharm
 
Milosia2 wrote:
You do know what “Export” means , right ?


you know where oil comes from, right????

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Dec 11, 2022 14:37:02   #
wilpharm
 
T***h be known wrote:
What are you smoking?
I would like to become as delusional as you that way I would not be concerned with the future of these UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!


her brain is fried..well done!!

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Dec 11, 2022 14:38:12   #
wilpharm
 
Milosia2 wrote:
If we are not energy independent , then , we don’t have a surplus of oil . You can’t have both.
Our exported oil goes to Brazil !!!!!


you really need to do some homework before you post s**t like this

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Dec 11, 2022 14:55:36   #
AlexT
 
So why is Slo Joe begging the Arabs and Venezuelans for oil? Reopen the Keystone pipeline and start drilling.

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Dec 11, 2022 14:56:02   #
AlexT
 
So why is Slo Joe begging the Arabs and Venezuelans for oil? Reopen the Keystone pipeline and start drilling.

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Dec 11, 2022 15:03:51   #
elledee
 
Milosia2 wrote:
If we are not energy independent , then , we don’t have a surplus of oil . You can’t have both.
Our exported oil goes to Brazil !!!!!


Can you get any more ignorant and clueless?

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Dec 11, 2022 15:19:04   #
wilpharm
 
elledee wrote:
Can you get any more ignorant and clueless?


doubtful

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Dec 11, 2022 15:33:29   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
elledee wrote:
Can you get any more ignorant and clueless?


Don’t. She’ll take it as a challenge.

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