Keystone pipeline: As of Dec 7th 14,000 gallons of Canadian heavy tar based oil has spilled into a Kanas creek in Washington County This was the largest but from 2010 to 2019 there...

jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin

As of Dec 7th 14,000 gallons of Canadian heavy tar based oil has spilled into a Kanas creek in Washington County
This was the largest but from 2010 to 2019 there were 21 oil spills from the Keystone pipeline. Not a danger to mother earth al all

American Vet

jimpack123 wrote:

As of Dec 7th 14,000 gallons of Canadian heavy tar based oil has spilled into a Kanas creek in Washington County
This was the largest but from 2010 to 2019 there were 21 oil spills from the Keystone pipeline. Not a danger to mother earth al all

So which mode is safer?

For oil, the short answer is: truck worse than train worse than pipeline worse than boat (Oilprice.com). But that’s only for human death and property destruction.

For the amount of oil spilled per billion-ton-miles, it’s truck worse than pipeline worse than rail worse than boat (Congressional Research Service).

Even more different is for environmental impact (dominated by impact to aquatic habitat), where it’s boat worse than pipeline worse than truck worse than rail.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2018/10/11/which-is-safer-for-t***sporting-crude-oil-rail-truck-pipeline-or-boat/?sh=2ec0bd817b23

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

jimpack123 wrote:

As of Dec 7th 14,000 gallons of Canadian heavy tar based oil has spilled into a Kanas creek in Washington County
This was the largest but from 2010 to 2019 there were 21 oil spills from the Keystone pipeline. Not a danger to mother earth al all

Relax. Another reason we should drill at home. Damn Canadians. I think Mother Earth as you put it ( certainly not my mother) has way more problems.

https://www.livescience.com/5422-natural-oil-spills-surprising-amount-seeps-sea.html

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

JFlorio wrote:

Relax. Another reason we should drill at home. Damn Canadians. I think Mother Earth as you put it ( certainly not my mother) has way more problems.

https://www.livescience.com/5422-natural-oil-spills-surprising-amount-seeps-sea.html

We don’t need to drill at home .
We need to stop exporting Our Oil.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Milosia2 wrote:

We don’t need to drill at home .
We need to stop exporting Our Oil.

Not how it works. It’s beyond you.

Weswill

Milosia2 wrote:

We don’t need to drill at home .
We need to stop exporting Our Oil.

We do need to drill at home to become energy independent and be more able to help our allies by selling them some of our surplus oil instead of them having to buy it from a rogue nation.

wilpharm

Milosia2 wrote:

We don’t need to drill at home .
We need to stop exporting Our Oil.

are you really that dense??? do you know where oil comes from?? "our oil without drilling???? SMH

wilpharm

JFlorio wrote:

Not how it works. It’s beyond you.

jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin

JFlorio wrote:

Not how it works. It’s beyond you.

only because we dont have any refineries we should be building new refineries

American Vet

jimpack123 wrote:

only because we dont have any refineries we should be building new refineries

And why aren't new refineries being built?

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

Weswill wrote:

We do need to drill at home to become energy independent and be more able to help our allies by selling them some of our surplus oil instead of them having to buy it from a rogue nation.

We were energy independent until republicans like Trump and Rex Tillerson decided to export our oil for profit.
To ignore this fact makes you all complicit . It is not how things work.
We were already energy independent.
Obama’s policies kept us independent.
Trump exxed out Obama’s independent policies favoring Exxon Profit , over youz .
Stop exporting our oil and gas for profit , and we can be energy independent again.

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

American Vet wrote:

And why aren't new refineries being built?

We don’t need more refineries .
We. Already produce enough oil and gas to be independent.
How will more refineries improve that ?

jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin

American Vet wrote:

And why aren't new refineries being built?

because it is cheaper to export our oil big oil wants to make money not invest

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

wilpharm wrote:

are you really that dense??? do you know where oil comes from?? "our oil without drilling???? SMH

You do know what “Export” means , right ?

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

Weswill wrote:

We do need to drill at home to become energy independent and be more able to help our allies by selling them some of our surplus oil instead of them having to buy it from a rogue nation.

If we are not energy independent , then , we don’t have a surplus of oil . You can’t have both.
Our exported oil goes to Brazil !!!!!