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Dec 8, 2022 12:22:59   #
FallenOak Loc: St George Utah
 
JFlorio wrote:
One example. One of the richest men in the world, Jeff Bezos, an admitted progressive moved his workers to part time at Whole Foods so he didn't have to pay for health insurance.


I was asking for something that showed Dems actually did something good for people rather than saying they are going to do something good and then doing nothing but reaping the rewards of the statement but not the action. I don't know if Bezos is Rep or Dem but that sounds like common practice by many employers of both sides.

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Dec 8, 2022 13:00:18   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
FallenOak wrote:
I was asking for something that showed Dems actually did something good for people rather than saying they are going to do something good and then doing nothing but reaping the rewards of the statement but not the action. I don't know if Bezos is Rep or Dem but that sounds like common practice by many employers of both sides.


Bezos is a raging progressive. huge Trump h**er. Not that unusual. Best example of democrats selling something beneficial to the populace would be, IMO, Johnsons great society. It was advertised as government programs that would lift minorities up. All it really did was create cheap housing that has expanded over time into huge slums. These supposed magnanimous policies also replace the father figure with government hand outs. When it comes right down to it; democrats suk.

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Dec 8, 2022 13:26:21   #
elledee
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
padre mike, You actually believe that the Democratic Party is a Neo-Marxist party? I have been a Democrat all my life with the exception of the first two years I v**ed. I was a member of the Liberal Party back then. The Liberal-Progressive movement in this country has nothing to do with Marxism, or even Democratic-Socialism.
The Liberal movement started out as the party of the new factory owning class of the 1800s. They wanted freedom of speech, and the pen as well as other democratic rights as the land owning aristocrats had.
The conservative movement started out as the supporters of royalty, the aristocratic class, they also emphasize family values and the status quo in general.
The Marxists movement started out as the party of labor in the 1840s. They are a revolutionary group that seeks to o*******w the economic-political-social order of the world. It sought the end of the capitalist system, replaced by a dictatorship of the proletariat, until the entire world was c*******t. At that time, international borders would disappear, as well as governments, and the world would become a complete paradise for workers. None of these ideas are incorporated by liberals. In this country, Marxism never became popular with workers because of the growth of labor unions.
I as a Democrat, support the right to own property. I support democracy. I do believe that the power, and wealth of corporations are powerful enough to buy politicians, and that we must protect working people by making sure that their civil, human, and economic rights are protected by law.
padre mike, You actually believe that the Democrat... (show quote)


You are a typical demonrat sucker and you will never see them as the self serving cons they are

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Dec 8, 2022 13:28:07   #
FallenOak Loc: St George Utah
 
JFlorio wrote:
Bezos is a raging progressive. huge Trump h**er. Not that unusual. Best example of democrats selling something beneficial to the populace would be, IMO, Johnsons great society. It was advertised as government programs that would lift minorities up. All it really did was create cheap housing that has expanded over time into huge slums. These supposed magnanimous policies also replace the father figure with government hand outs. When it comes right down to it; democrats suk.


I think we agree. The way I see it is the the DEM leadership has only the ability or desire to lie to the population while the Rep leadership have no cojones to fight back.

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Dec 8, 2022 13:32:17   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
JFlorio wrote:
Bezos is a raging progressive. huge Trump h**er. Not that unusual. Best example of democrats selling something beneficial to the populace would be, IMO, Johnsons great society. It was advertised as government programs that would lift minorities up. All it really did was create cheap housing that has expanded over time into huge slums. These supposed magnanimous policies also replace the father figure with government hand outs. When it comes right down to it; democrats suk.


Thus far $23 Trillion has been spent on Johnson's Great Society. Want to provide a WAG on the ROI?

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Dec 8, 2022 22:18:34   #
JuristBooks Loc: North Carolina
 
padremike wrote:
https://www.city-journal.org/political-l*****ts-progressives

Liberal was never a legitimate term for Democrats who stole the term from the Classical Liberalism philosophy of our Founders who I might add have been bastardized by the neo-Marxist Progressive Left as evil men, interested only in increasing their personal wealth and dismissive of their fellow man.


Very well stated.

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Dec 8, 2022 22:51:08   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
padremike wrote:
Thus far $23 Trillion has been spent on Johnson's Great Society. Want to provide a WAG on the ROI?


I’d say it’s negative.

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Dec 8, 2022 23:14:06   #
Salvatore
 
Salt Wind, it's obvious that you haven't kept up with the Democrat Party that morphed into what it is today! joe biden and his Party are Socialists and you don't see it! A handful of L*****ts took over the Democrat Party more than 10 years ago, where were you? 33% of people under 35 say they are in favor of doing away with police altogether! 36% of millennials say let's try c*******m! I'm not a fan of Bill Maher but once in a while he get's it right! What he said about them was, "let's eat in the bathroom and s**t in the kitchen that might be a good idea."

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Dec 9, 2022 00:49:44   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
EmilyD wrote:
My dad flew over Iwo Jima when he was in WWII. He left a log of all the missions he did, and one entry says "Iwo Jima...two thirty seven...84 rounds...back to ship three oh eight". He was a turret gunner on a plane on the Navy carrier 'USS Natoma Bay'. One of his stories is that one day the plane came in for a landing on the carrier and the cable with the hook that was supposed to stop the plane malfunctioned and grabbed the wrong part of the plane. They went over the side of the carrier and their plane, with dad sitting in the turret, ended up dangling over the side of the ship. It took them almost the whole night to rescue the crew.

Pic of the turret on the type of plane he flew...a Grummen Topedo bomber...

....
My dad flew over Iwo Jima when he was in WWII. He ... (show quote)
That beast is the TBF Avenger, the best torpedo bomber in the 2nd World War.
George H.W. Bush piloted one of those bad boys and got shot down.

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Dec 9, 2022 07:22:57   #
TruePatriot49 Loc: The Democratic People's Republic Rhode Island
 
JFlorio wrote:
That's true. She still thinks Democrats are the party of Kennedy. LOL! The Democrats of today would h**e Kennedy.


And J.F. Kennedy would h**e "Democrats" and probably be a Republican.

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Dec 9, 2022 10:52:22   #
JuristBooks Loc: North Carolina
 
TruePatriot49 wrote:
And J.F. Kennedy would h**e "Democrats" and probably be a Republican.


Look at our so-called 2 party system. Are they truly separate? Are they more merged than we care to admit? As in “ RepubliCrats” or the DemoPublican party ????
When either regime is “ in power” do they do ANYTHING for this country or the Citizenry ? It seems everything’stays the same’ or Gets Worse.
JFK would be an Independent. His dad would be Zalensky. ( political crime boss).

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Dec 9, 2022 11:24:55   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
JuristBooks wrote:
Look at our so-called 2 party system. Are they truly separate? Are they more merged than we care to admit? As in “ RepubliCrats” or the DemoPublican party ????
When either regime is “ in power” do they do ANYTHING for this country or the Citizenry ? It seems everything’stays the same’ or Gets Worse.
JFK would be an Independent. His dad would be Zalensky. ( political crime boss).


I'm not ready to capitulate and believe there's little difference between the two parties because there is a huge difference between Conservatives & the "go along to get along" Republicans.

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Dec 9, 2022 12:00:56   #
JuristBooks Loc: North Carolina
 
padremike wrote:
I'm not ready to capitulate and believe there's little difference between the two parties because there is a huge difference between Conservatives & the "go along to get along" Republicans.


I agree. There are holdouts in both ‘party’s,’ and there are RINOS as well as Dems that play both sides.
I look at the Big Picture. “We” are the frogs. The Republicans are the pot of water. The Dems have gradually, persistently cooked us for many decades.

I still maintain that our one party system is against national p***e, our spirit, Justice, Life, …. They work together to smother the best of America.

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