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Biden announces he will ban semi automatic weapons.
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Nov 25, 2022 22:42:27   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
I don't think he'll succeed, but I don't think there's a constitutional right to own semi- automatic weapons. Should citizens have the right to own 50 cal machine guns?


According to the Constitution, yes. If you study the Federalist Papers. Of course, courts have decided differently. You have a problem with semi-automatics? They’ve only been around a little longer than Biden.

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Nov 25, 2022 22:48:08   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Kevyn wrote:
I see you are choking on Murdochs flopper! I hope for his sake you swallow. Try a legitimate source for once.


Beat you again pervert. Anytime you wanna discuss in person let me know. Coward.

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Nov 25, 2022 22:53:38   #
steve66613
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
I don't think he'll succeed, but I don't think there's a constitutional right to own semi- automatic weapons. Should citizens have the right to own 50 cal machine guns?


FYI….citizens DO have the right to own virtually ANY firearm. That said, most “citizens” comply with the laws (likely unconstitutional) which require licensure and taxation in order to possess AUTOMATIC firearms.

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Nov 25, 2022 23:16:39   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
I don't think he'll succeed, but I don't think there's a constitutional right to own semi- automatic weapons. Should citizens have the right to own 50 cal machine guns?


They do, Tintop789. Most of us just choose not to invest that much money for the permits. Canons are more cost effective and easier to maintain. More bang for the buck, so to speak.

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Nov 25, 2022 23:23:36   #
American Vet
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
I don't think he'll succeed, but I don't think there's a constitutional right to own semi- automatic weapons. Should citizens have the right to own 50 cal machine guns?


You think wrong. The SCOTUS has ruled on that.

A citizen can own a machine gun.

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Nov 25, 2022 23:52:09   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Kevyn wrote:
I see you are choking on Murdochs flopper! I hope for his sake you swallow. Try a legitimate source for once.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/biden-say-renew-push-assault-weapons-ban-spate-mass-shootings-rcna58664

Is this legitimate enough for you, Kevyn?? 🙄🙄🙄

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Nov 25, 2022 23:54:39   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
JFlorio wrote:
So, the Democrats don’t even hide it anymore. Their brain addled leader announced yesterday he will attempt a ban. Will, F him. So around 12,000 homicides by gun last year and Democrats will try to remove our Constitutional Right because this is such a horrible number. Then how come, no attempt to stop the f******l epidemic coming across our southern border, estimated to have k**led over 100,000 Americans this year?
Seems to me banning guns is not about concern for the American people, but an attempt to take away a right and concentrate more power in Washington.
So, the Democrats don’t even hide it anymore. Thei... (show quote)


J, look back to the 1994 act.. while it only lasted 10 years or so, it was specific to "assault style" rifles..

While one of the follow up posts raises the point that we do not allow laws to outlaw what was legal when a person purchased the rifle, the future selling of the described rifle could once more become unlawful.

As for my own opinion, I see merit in the limiting of means.. so if harder to get the gun, some will let the will to k**l pass for the day and never reach that level again..

However we have millions of the Military style guns everywhere, so they now will not disappear from use.. it is a task beyond the passing of regulations to remove these types of guns from our country.. a lost cause, no matter how worthy the effort may be..

Now the usual reply on gun regulation , is rants and raves, but at times the demand to treat the k**ler not the gun must be the reaction.. Tell me, how we could accomplish treating/removing the k**ler before the act.

truly, if that could be done, then the problem would be removed.. but the detail is the devil and how is the problem..



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Nov 25, 2022 23:57:37   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
I don't think he'll succeed, but I don't think there's a constitutional right to own semi- automatic weapons. Should citizens have the right to own 50 cal machine guns?


Piers Morgan and Carol Roth had this twitter exchange:

Piers Morgan@piersmorgan
The 2nd amendment was devised with muskets in mind, not high-powered handguns & assault rifles. Fact.

Carol Roth @carolsjroth @piersmorgan
It was devised 4 people 2b able 2 protect themselves w same type of weaponry used by those from whom they might need protection.

Piers Morgan@piersmorgan@caroljsroth
Where exactly does it say that in the Constitution - must have missed it?

Carol Roth@caroljsroth@piersmorgan
right next to the word "muskets"

IOW, tiptoe, the 2nd amendment does not specify any type of firearm.

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Nov 26, 2022 00:01:00   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
permafrost wrote:
J, look back to the 1994 act.. while it only lasted 10 years or so, it was specific to "assault style" rifles..
Clinton's AWB had no measurable effect on reducing gun crimes.

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Nov 26, 2022 00:07:18   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Clinton's AWB had no measurable effect on reducing gun crimes.


Thank you. I was just looking that up. We have so many gun laws that aren’t enforced. H****r Bide’s a good example. Red f**g laws sound sensible but when you dig down you see the possible problem with them. I won’t even discuss the subject with anyone that believes an AR-15 is some kind of assault rifle or weapon of war. They’re too uninformed to debate the subject. My 30-06 leaves a lot bigger hole than my AR with its .223 round.

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Nov 26, 2022 00:21:22   #
Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
More of Biden the Bloviator's bulls**t. He cannot ban semi auto weapons. This flies in the face of both Heller and MacDonald, the SCOTUS decisions on the Second Amendment. Even without these, there is that pesky Constitution thing, which states in Article I Sections 9 & 10 that neither the Federal or the State governments may enact a post facto law. You cannot criminalize possession of a firearm that was legal when you acquired it. You cannot make anything illegal retroactively, nor can you penalize someone for an action that was legal when they did it.
The SCOTUS has stated that as commonly owned rifles, (more than 20 million) AR15s, (the usual low-h*****g fruit targeted by anti-gunners.) are protected by the Second Amendment.
Biden is simply pandering to his dwindling base, composed more and more of people who are as incredibly stupid as he is.
More of Biden the Bloviator's bulls**t. He cannot ... (show quote)


👏 Excellent! Wasn't it Clint Eastwood who said, "You can take my gun - barrel end first."? That, IMO, is the only way anyone should give up their gun.

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Nov 26, 2022 00:53:35   #
Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
I don't think he'll succeed, but I don't think there's a constitutional right to own semi- automatic weapons. Should citizens have the right to own 50 cal machine guns?


An Executive Order has no weight behind it. It is only the Legislative body that can make a law, however, it must be within the confines of the Constitution. Sheriffs who know the Constitution should block it in their respective counties.
So, I think you're right that Biden will not succeed in his efforts to ban any type of gun.

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Nov 26, 2022 03:02:35   #
liberalhunter Loc: Your mom's house
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
I don't think he'll succeed, but I don't think there's a constitutional right to own semi- automatic weapons. Should citizens have the right to own 50 cal machine guns?



Yes we should.

Free lunches, free Healthcare..... free 50 cals.

Fair is fair.

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Nov 26, 2022 07:06:45   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
More of Biden the Bloviator's bulls**t. He cannot ban semi auto weapons. This flies in the face of both Heller and MacDonald, the SCOTUS decisions on the Second Amendment. Even without these, there is that pesky Constitution thing, which states in Article I Sections 9 & 10 that neither the Federal or the State governments may enact a post facto law. You cannot criminalize possession of a firearm that was legal when you acquired it. You cannot make anything illegal retroactively, nor can you penalize someone for an action that was legal when they did it.
The SCOTUS has stated that as commonly owned rifles, (more than 20 million) AR15s, (the usual low-h*****g fruit targeted by anti-gunners.) are protected by the Second Amendment.
Biden is simply pandering to his dwindling base, composed more and more of people who are as incredibly stupid as he is.
More of Biden the Bloviator's bulls**t. He cannot ... (show quote)


Correction: I meant to say EX POST FACTO law. Trying to do several things at once. My bad.

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Nov 26, 2022 07:13:58   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Kevyn wrote:
I see you are choking on Murdochs flopper! I hope for his sake you swallow. Try a legitimate source for once.


Ah, yes, legitimate source. How's this?

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/07-290.ZS.html

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-supreme-court-orders-lower-courts-reconsider-gun-law-challenges-2022-06-30/

https://www.britannica.com/event/McDonald-v-City-of-Chicago

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