dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

Who said it was Biden's fault? (It was Trump's fault. ) It is amazing the leaps you can make that allow you to know exactly what people think and mean, especially before they know it themselves. I suppose jumping to conclusions is better than hopping or skipping (White men can't jump. Major fail!).

"it seems the only people who cry about a "complete" change to renewables are those who are so set against such a thing happening."

It may seem that way to you because that is what you want to believe from the constant drumming into your head of having been told this by the left. Now you are grasping at straws.

How do you define "renewable?" (The left is always shifting their definition so that they can't be pinned down.)

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

When someone posts a comment, the meaning may not be as obvious to others.. blaming Biden was the reason he was mentioned.

Why the h**e of renewable is so wide spread in the trump troops is a puzzle. Most people would at least try to be supportive of anything good for our country.. but no... only support the cash cow of the big oil corporations..

Shifting definitions... you must mean the change of "g****l w*****g" to "c*****e c****e" that was to make the issue more understandable to the nay sayers.. and easy peasy.. g****l w*****g is part and parcel of c*****e c****e..

Now that is not so difficult... even some trump troops may understand that fact..

microphor Loc: Home is TN

I agree and also some of the atrocities associated with say EV batteries and solar panels goes against everything Americans on both sides believe in. There are legitimate reasons and concerns for not pushing forward 100% renewable at this time. Here's an example of concerns that aren't even discussed in relation to renewables:

A concern: Most of the cobalt used in batteries today is claimed by China from mines in the Democratic Republic of Congo, where extraction has come with human rights abuses and environmental degradation. Most of the global lithium supply is found in Australia, Chile and Argentina.

Another concern: Lithium extraction in Bolivia, Argentina, and Chile requires significant amounts of water, at approximately 500,000 gallons per ton of lithium. In Chile’s Salar de Atacama, lithium extraction being performed by various companies has consumed 65 percent of the region’s water supply. This has not only created extreme water shortages, but has also had a substantial impact on the abilities of local farmers to grow crops and maintain livestock.

Point is: I would love energy that does no damage or harm but we're not there yet and if we push ahead without addressing known concerns, a lot of people and/or their countries will unnecessarily be destroyed to some degree.

microphor Loc: Home is TN

Can I see the polls you did from Trump supporters to support this statement:

Why the h**e of renewable is so wide spread in the trump troops is a puzzle.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

The "poll" is based on the remarks from trump troops on OPP who express the determination to not let renewables into the mix of energy production..

American Vet

You ignorant buffoon. No one "h**es" renewable - it is simply the ELWNJs such as you are pushing something that could destroy America.

Let common sense prevail (realizing you will need some help with that): The best way is for American to become independent of foreign oil by using the HUGE capabilities we have. Then begin research into other options in a careful, controlled manner - instead of rushing crazily into wind/solar and their well-documented inadequacies and failures.

microphor Loc: Home is TN

So you make a broad statement based on a few opinions? Perhaps you could show me those, I have seen people state that we need to return to fuel independence but never saw them say we shouldn't continue looking for safe, reliable ways to harness/create/use renewable's.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

try and get big oil to go along with your idea.. they spent generation making oil an international biz, they will never allow that to change if they can spend money and hold the status as it is now.. But if it could happen, it would be an improvement for us who pay for fuel..

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Wow, constant attacks on renewables and you say otherwise.. never an idea to improve the situation, Vets comment above is probably the only one ever posted and is a never happen desire..

If you wish to dig up past comments on OPP go right ahead.. but I will not do your work for you... and you do not want to find fact at all, just for me to make work..

By the way, we never had fuel independence other then the imagination of trump troops.. we have always, even in 2017 imported some oil. in that year we also exported oil and oil products. That also was and is not a first..

Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois

You should work for the fact-checkers. You, like them, twist facts so that "technically" your rebuttal is true while ignoring what was said in the first place. I can't tell you the number of times I've seen you and others do it.

BIRDMAN

American Vet

Blah, blah, blah.

You can't refute what i post so you play "what if"....

Do you have TGIF on the top of your shoes?

American Vet

Pointing out their inadequacies and problems is a 'constant attack'?

LOL

Upsets your little ELWNJ world.....

microphor Loc: Home is TN

so you started off accusing the "Trump Troops", now it's big oil. Do you know what you believe and do you have any rational reason for believing it?

microphor Loc: Home is TN

I repeat in case you are hard of reading:

"I have seen people state that we need to return to fuel independence but never saw them say we shouldn't continue looking for safe, reliable ways to harness/create/use renewable's."