One Political Plaza - Home of politics
Home Active Topics Newest Pictures Search Login Register
Main
Do you believe that America is the GREATEST country in the world? Majority of Democrats say US is not World's Greatest Country, poll..
Page <<first <prev 12 of 13 next>
Sep 22, 2022 15:27:28   #
Big Kahuna
 
straightUp wrote:
That's what some people have called the "Disinformation Governance Board" which HAS been established under the Department of Homeland Security. The task is to identify misinformation. For the past four years I have been consulting, on and off, with a privately-funded group of engineers to search for methods to effectively identify misinformation in social media. It hasn't been easy but gradually, the logic is building out and we now have some filters that can identify the most blatant forms of misinformation. Other research groups are having similar success and now the DGB is established and looking at the available options.

The progressive take is that misinformation is bad for democracy because a healthy democracy needs well-informed v**ers.

I don't know if you ever read 1984, but the Ministry of T***h in that story was an agency of manufactured narratives. The DGB doesn't manufacture anything, it simply verifies if information is related to fact or not. A much closer approximation to the fictional Ministry of T***h is "T***h Social", Trump's own struggling social platform where people can manufacture narratives like what you just posted and insist it's the t***h.

I actually find it amusing how Orwell came up with the title "Ministry of T***h" as an obvious reference to how liars are always trying to legitimize their stories with labels like "T***h" and Trump falls right into the pattern. "It's the t***h! It's says so right on the label!" LOL
That's what some people have called the "Disi... (show quote)


Try consulting with my hands. Both middle fingers are straight up. How's that for the Ministry of T***h and how we feel about your disinformation? I've been studying a wholes like you for years and you chumps never change. Stupidity is in your dna and always will be. Now move along little boy and get lost in your trafficked disinformation.

Reply
Sep 22, 2022 16:01:12   #
zillaorange
 
Parky60 wrote:
Let's call it for what it really is, brainwashing. And they have been so thoroughly brainwashed, they will be believe and parrot ANYTHING they are told.


The only brainwashed folks are the Biden zombies who believe gas prices are lower now than when i***t joe took office!!!

Reply
Sep 22, 2022 17:49:32   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
American Vet wrote:
American Vet wrote:
Are the ‘progressive democrats’ concerned about the ‘improvements’ Biden has made?
I'm sure some of them are but most progressives seem pretty happy with the improvements Biden is making.

You will have to help with this: I am not aware of anything that biden has improved.

I can think of a lot but I'll start with infrastructure, since that's a concrete piece of legislature so it's easy to quantify (unlike the nebulous accusations on your list). The improvement so far is that money is finally available for the first time in 60 years to improve our deteriorating infrastructure projects. Trump promised he would do it but he didn't. You may not have known about this because right-wing media only covers stuff that they think will make Biden look bad.

American Vet wrote:

Now let's talk about the items on your list that you apparently *think* are Biden's decisions. ;)

American Vet wrote:
Southern border crisis – flooded with i*****l a***ns and f******l

I just had a conversation with some of your pals here who actually thought anyone who is not a citizen is an i*****l a***n. It seems like you're just as misinformed as they are.

Not a bit misinformed: The folks crossing the southern border illegal are, by definitio0n, i*****l a***ns.
br i Now let's talk about the items on your list... (show quote)

*IF* they cross illegally, then yes, they are i*****l i*******ts (or i*****l a***ns - wh**ever). But very few of them are actually doing that. Most of them are going through the legal process, so they are NOT illegal which makes you either ignorant or a liar.

The Biden Administration is actually doing a great job at legally processing thousands of immigrants that have been backlogged for years in Mexico. But for the bigots on the right, that's actually the problem. They don't want a bunch of "inferior non-white" people coming into this country, legal or not and since they don't have the balls to be honest they play weasel games with words.

For example, they call all the immigrants that are not yet citizens, "i*****l a***ns" even though most of them actually did go through the legal immigration process which makes them "residential aliens", not "i*****l a***ns" but that little detail hardly makes any difference to the bigots who don't know any better and wouldn't care if they did.


As for the flood - that was Trump's fault for keeping them all waiting in Mexico. It's called a backlog.

Yep: And biden and cabal is facilitating their illegal entry.
[/quote]
No, he is facilitating their LEGAL entry.

American Vet wrote:


American Vet wrote:
Sending billions to Iran
The fact that you think relaxing sanctions on Iranian assets is the same as giving them money out of our pockets reveals your utter lack of understanding. But yes, progressives are concerned about anyone struggling to feed their children, even if they are Iranians suffering under sanctions that Trump imposed so he could get an applause from a crowd of bloodthirsty i***ts.

Helping a terrorist nation - good move.

Not everyone in Iran is a terrorist, dip**it. Trump's sanctions were crippling the economy in Iran to the point where it was literally k*****g millions of innocent people. (Not that you care) So one reason for lifting sanctions is simple humanity. But there is another reason as well... Getting back to that deal that we had with them regarding nuclear weapons.

Obama brokered a deal with Iran, the EU, Russia AND China to give us access to Iran's nuclear facilities. Then i***t Trump decided to pull us out of the agreement, saying it was "such a bad deal" and that HE could do sooo much better. As a result, we lost ALL visibility into Iran's nuclear program and Trump never made ANY kind of deal. That's when the EU just lost all respect for the U.S.

Also, I'm not a big fan of religious republics but at least I am able to recognize that Iran is not a fraction of the terrorist nation that we are. In case you didn't know, terrorism is defined as any act of violence on a civilian population in order to intimidate them.

In 2003, Bush ordered the U.S. Army to surround Baghdad, a city the size of Chicago and shell the f**k out of the city around the clock for several days. The operation k**led hundreds of thousands of Iraqi people. Bush called it "Shock and Awe" In other words, it was 100% a terrorist act and probably the biggest one in history. Name one incident that Iran was responsible for that even comes close.

The American right just h**es Iran for standing up to our imperialism. Just like with Cuba. Neither of these countries actually did anything wrong to us. They just didn't bow to our feet and we h**e them for it.

It doesn't even matter when they the actually help us... for instance, Iranian forces under Soleimani, defeated ISIS. (The U.S. played a very minor role in this effort) But what did Soleimani get in return? Trump had him k**led.

And you wonder why Trump got no respect from our allies.

Look, you started with a list that was way too long to start with and I know you don't have the attention span to read much more anyway. So I'm going to stop here for now and you can go back to lying about the people you've been programmed to h**e.

Reply
 
 
Sep 22, 2022 18:00:11   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
Try consulting with my hands. Both middle fingers are straight up. How's that for the Ministry of T***h and how we feel about your disinformation?

Honest opinion? If you are actually holding your middle fingers up to a computer screen, I'm laughing my ass off. What makes you think I care how you feel anyway? I don't even care that you got your head up yer ass. As far as I am concerned that's YOUR problem, not mine.

Big Kahuna wrote:

I've been studying a wholes like you for years and you chumps never change.

LOL - studying? Yeah, right... 'More like you've been getting pissed off for years and it doesn't change because you never learn anything.

Reply
Sep 22, 2022 18:00:58   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
straightUp wrote:
Not everyone in Iran is a terrorist, dip**it. Trump's sanctions were crippling the economy in Iran to the point where it was literally k*****g millions of innocent people. (Not that you care) So one reason for lifting sanctions is simple humanity. But there is another reason as well... Getting back to that deal that we had with them regarding nuclear weapons.

Obama brokered a deal with Iran, the EU, Russia AND China to give us access to Iran's nuclear facilities. Then i***t Trump decided to pull us out of the agreement, saying it was "such a bad deal" and that HE could do sooo much better. As a result, we lost ALL visibility into Iran's nuclear program and Trump never made ANY kind of deal. That's when the EU just lost all respect for the U.S.

Also, I'm not a big fan of religious republics but at least I am able to recognize that Iran is not a fraction of the terrorist nation that we are. In case you didn't know, terrorism is defined as any act of violence on a civilian population in order to intimidate them.

In 2003, Bush ordered the U.S. Army to surround Baghdad, a city the size of Chicago and shell the f**k out of the city around the clock for several days. The operation k**led hundreds of thousands of Iraqi people. Bush called it "Shock and Awe" In other words, it was 100% a terrorist act and probably the biggest one in history. Name one incident that Iran was responsible for that even comes close.

The American right just h**es Iran for standing up to our imperialism. Just like with Cuba. Neither of these countries actually did anything wrong to us. They just didn't bow to our feet and we h**e them for it.

It doesn't even matter when they the actually help us... for instance, Iranian forces under Soleimani, defeated ISIS. (The U.S. played a very minor role in this effort) But what did Soleimani get in return? Trump had him k**led.

And you wonder why Trump got no respect from our allies.

Look, you started with a list that was way too long to start with and I know you don't have the attention span to read much more anyway. So I'm going to stop here for now and you can go back to lying about the people you've been programmed to h**e.
Not everyone in Iran is a terrorist, dip**it. Trum... (show quote)

Curious, do you get paid $X per word?

Reply
Sep 22, 2022 18:46:04   #
American Vet
 
straightUp wrote:


American Vet wrote:
You will have to help with this: I am not aware of anything that biden has improved.

I can think of a lot but I'll start with infrastructure, since that's a concrete piece of legislature so it's easy to quantify (unlike the nebulous accusations on your list). The improvement so far is that money is finally available for the first time in 60 years to improve our deteriorating infrastructure projects. Trump promised he would do it but he didn't. You may not have known about this because right-wing media only covers stuff that they think will make Biden look bad.

Although there was recognition of the need to upgrade American infrastructure from both sides of the political aisle, no major infrastructure bill was passed due to disagreements over the details of such a spending package, namely, what to spend on, how much to spend, and how to pay for it. In general, the aim of the Trump administration was to revitalize the national economy and enhance national security, despite the tendency of the Republican Party to oppose large federal expenditures and tax hikes. Members of the opposition Democratic Party typically favored investing in renewable energy and new infrastructure that could combat c*****e c****e.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrastructure_policy_of_Donald_Trump

President Joe Biden detailed his massive infrastructure spending proposal Wednesday, but only about 25 percent of the $2.5 trillion bill funds basic infrastructure, according to a fact sheet summary of the bill.
The rest of the bill’s spending includes massive spending on c*****e c****e initiatives such as development for electric vehicles and charging stations, electric school buses and federal vehicles, and clean energy technology.
https://thepatriotjournal.com/bidens-infrastructure-bill-climate/

So President Trump had a plan, but never came to fruition because of the politics - guess one could say the democrats were 'obstructionists'.

And then biden gets control and passes an "infrastructure" bill (redefining infrastructure) with about 25% for true infrastructure and the rest promoting/paying for eco-wacky 'new green deal' things.

One is hard put to consider that to be an "accomplishment".

Reply
Sep 22, 2022 18:53:54   #
American Vet
 
straightUp wrote:
.


I*****l A***ns

*IF* they cross illegally, then yes, they are i*****l i*******ts (or i*****l a***ns - wh**ever). But very few of them are actually doing that. Most of them are going through the legal process, so they are NOT illegal which makes you either ignorant or a liar.

So someone trying to sneak into the country is doing that legally? (According to you)

Reply
Sep 22, 2022 19:01:32   #
American Vet
 
straightUp wrote:
Not everyone in Iran is a terrorist, dip**it. Trump's sanctions were crippling the economy in Iran to the point where it was literally k*****g millions of innocent people. (Not that you care) So one reason for lifting sanctions is simple humanity. But there is another reason as well... Getting back to that deal that we had with them regarding nuclear weapons.

Obama brokered a deal with Iran, the EU, Russia AND China to give us access to Iran's nuclear facilities. Then i***t Trump decided to pull us out of the agreement, saying it was "such a bad deal" and that HE could do sooo much better. As a result, we lost ALL visibility into Iran's nuclear program and Trump never made ANY kind of deal. That's when the EU just lost all respect for the U.S.

Also, I'm not a big fan of religious republics but at least I am able to recognize that Iran is not a fraction of the terrorist nation that we are. In case you didn't know, terrorism is defined as any act of violence on a civilian population in order to intimidate them.

In 2003, Bush ordered the U.S. Army to surround Baghdad, a city the size of Chicago and shell the f**k out of the city around the clock for several days. The operation k**led hundreds of thousands of Iraqi people. Bush called it "Shock and Awe" In other words, it was 100% a terrorist act and probably the biggest one in history. Name one incident that Iran was responsible for that even comes close.

The American right just h**es Iran for standing up to our imperialism. Just like with Cuba. Neither of these countries actually did anything wrong to us. They just didn't bow to our feet and we h**e them for it.

It doesn't even matter when they the actually help us... for instance, Iranian forces under Soleimani, defeated ISIS. (The U.S. played a very minor role in this effort) But what did Soleimani get in return? Trump had him k**led.

And you wonder why Trump got no respect from our allies.

Look, you started with a list that was way too long to start with and I know you don't have the attention span to read much more anyway. So I'm going to stop here for now and you can go back to lying about the people you've been programmed to h**e.
Not everyone in Iran is a terrorist, dip**it. Trum... (show quote)



Not everyone in Iran is a terrorist, dip**it.

And I did not say that - I said Iran is a terrorist state. Big difference.


Trump's sanctions were crippling the economy in Iran to the point where it was literally k*****g millions of innocent people

And we k**led millions of innocents in defeating Hitler; and millions k**led defeating Japan; and that has always been the case in war (and we are most assuredly in a war with terrorists). The innocents died not because of the actions of our government, but the actions of their government.

Obama brokered a deal with Iran

And a very bad deal it was - President Trump made a good decision to get out of it.

https://www.hoover.org/research/obamas-disastrous-iran-deal

https://thefederalist.com/2017/04/24/barack-obamas-iran-deal-was-much-worse-than-we-suspected/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/05/08/obama-administration-sold-bad-iran-nuclear-deal-editorials-debates/34700171/

Reply
Sep 22, 2022 19:24:45   #
Big Kahuna
 
straightUp wrote:
LOL - studying? Yeah, right... 'More like you've been getting pissed off for years and it doesn't change because you never learn anything.


I may get pissed off but you are like H****r and love being pi$$ed on.

Reply
Sep 22, 2022 20:17:09   #
Halsey
 
The problem with that is the country they think is the greatest doesn't want them

Reply
Sep 22, 2022 20:19:22   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Halsey wrote:
The problem with that is the country they think is the greatest doesn't want them


The trouble with what? Please use the Quote Reply button so we know who you are replying to.

Reply
Sep 22, 2022 20:24:34   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
RascalRiley wrote:
The trouble with what? Please use the Quote Reply button so we know who you are replying to.

Halsey might be replying to the entire group or just making a general statement not related to a specific post. I didn’t know you were the OPP police night shift.

Reply
Sep 23, 2022 15:36:28   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
zillaorange wrote:
The only brainwashed folks are the Biden zombies who believe gas prices are lower now than when i***t joe took office!!!



Reply
Sep 23, 2022 15:37:49   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Halsey wrote:
The problem with that is the country they think is the greatest doesn't want them


Agree!😁

Reply
Sep 23, 2022 21:34:35   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
straightUp wrote:
Don't worry, being the world's greatest nation was never an earned privilege anyway, it has always been a arbitrary claim... a narcissistic self-proclamation that we are better than everyone else. That's why we continue see Americans bragging about being greatest country in the world despite the fact that we are deeper in debt than any other country in the world, we lost more wars since WW2 than we won and U.S. citizens get the worse benefits package in the developed world. My point here being... It won't matter how s**tty things get, we can always claim to the greatest country in the world.
Don't worry, being the world's greatest nation was... (show quote)


(Per Spicoli) “That's why we continue see Americans bragging about being greatest country in the world despite the fact that we are deeper in debt than any other country in the world,…….”

I h**e to pop your bubble Spicoli but check it out:
https://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/countries-by-national-debt

Don’t come back with your redefinition of debt. Anyone with financial integrity will use a Debt to GDP comparison.

Reply
Page <<first <prev 12 of 13 next>
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.
Main
OnePoliticalPlaza.com - Forum
Copyright 2012-2024 IDF International Technologies, Inc.