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Trump gave Aid and Comfort to the I**********nists---a violation of the 14th Amendment
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Sep 10, 2022 08:03:53   #
American Vet
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Not to defend Permafrost, but he is not that ignorant. He just assumes WE are, and that we have no memories. His being an i***t has more to do with his lack of ethics and his TDS.


We will have to agree to disagree: In addition to the items you noted, he is a poorly educated, ignorant buffoon. And, it goes without saying, a liar as well.....

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Sep 10, 2022 08:30:19   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
American Vet wrote:
We will have to agree to disagree: In addition to the items you noted, he is a poorly educated, ignorant buffoon. And, it goes without saying, a liar as well.....


I won't disagree further on those points. But wh**ever his knowledge level, he is controlled entirely by his biased beliefs. The end justifies the means.

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Sep 10, 2022 09:20:44   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
336Robin wrote:
It's very likely that Donald Trump will be found guilty of a violation of the 14th Amendment.
It would disqualify him as a candidate for President in 2024.



CBS News
Former Trump White House lawyer thinks Trump violated 14th Amendment
Major Garrett
Fri, September 9, 2022 at 6:00 AM

Ty Cobb, who was a White House lawyer during former President Donald Trump's administration, suspects the Justice Department investigation into whether Trump mishandled White House documents — some of them highly classified — is really about a broader inquiry into potential crimes related to the J*** 6, 2021, Capitol r**t and efforts to overturn the 2020 e******n.

"It is about the bigger picture, the J*** 6 issues, the f**e e*****rs, the whole s**m with regard to the 'big lie' and the attempts to…cling to the presidency in a desperate fashion," Cobb said on this week's episode of "The Takeout" podcast.


A clue for Cobb, a former federal prosecutor, was the scope of the warrant authorized to search Trump's Mar-a-Lago compound.

"The search warrant is unusually large and broad," Cobb told CBS chief Washington correspondent Major Garrett. "It's very, very comprehensive in terms of the types of documents that the government could take."

"For example, you can take any box that has a document. You can take any box adjacent to a box that has it," he said. "Those are pretty broad parameters."

Cobb represented the White House during special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into suspected Trump collusion with Russian entities in the runup to the 2016 e******n. That investigation yielded no charges against Trump.

Garrett asked Cobb about his White House experience watching Trump deal with documents – routine or classified.

"The president…was cautioned many times about not tearing up documents," Cobb said. "In my own experience, I have to say, there wasn't really anything quite as consequential as the press reports that I've read. I saw him tear up newspaper articles which sadly, some staffer would have to tape back together at the end of the day. I saw him tear up inconsequential documents, but I never saw him tear up a classified document or something that was important."

As for Trump's legal future, Cobb said he does not believe the documents investigation is the biggest threat.

"I think the president is in serious legal water, not so much because of the search, but because of the obstructive activity he took in connection with the J*** 6 proceeding," Cobb said. "I think that and the attempts to interfere in the e******n count in Georgia, Arizona, Pennsylvania and perhaps Michigan. That was the first time in American history that a president unconstitutionally attempted to remain in power illegally."

Cobb says he thinks the possibility of an indictment against Trump is "very high."

In response to a question about Trump's attempts to deny the outcome of the 2020 e******n and overturn the results, Cobb, based on his extensive working relationship with Trump, said, "I believe former President Trump to be a deeply wounded narcissist, and he is often incapable of acting other than in his perceived self-interest or for revenge," Cobb said. "I think those are the two compelling instincts that guide his actions."

Cobb also thinks that Trump's actions around the J*** 6 attack on the Capitol could lead him to be barred from running for the presidency again.

"There is a simple way to disqualify President Trump," Cobb said. "He clearly violated the 14th Amendment of the Constitution's Article III when he gave aid and comfort and three hours of inaction with regard to what was happening on the grounds of the Capitol. That clearly gave aid and comfort to the i**********nists."
It's very likely that Donald Trump will be found g... (show quote)


So tell us, oh Fountain of Wisdom. You continue to refer to the J****** 6 r**t as an "i**********n." I'll bet you can tell us exactly how many people have been charged with i**********n? Let's see, more than a year and a half later, more than 800 people arrested, some still in jail awaiting arraignment, and not one effing conviction of i**********n. Perhaps, in your omniscience, you can tell us how the Hell you can have an i**********n without any i**********nists? You have two options.
1). Provide proof. Accusations don't count. All this time. All those arrests. No convictions.
2)Admit you and anyone else who refers to this disturbance as an i**********n are liars.

Put up or shut up.

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Sep 10, 2022 09:22:14   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
So tell us, oh Fountain of Wisdom. You continue to refer to the J****** 6 r**t as an "i**********n." I'll bet you can tell us exactly how many people have been charged with i**********n? Let's see, more than a year and a half later, more than 800 people arrested, some still in jail awaiting arraignment, and not one effing conviction of i**********n. Perhaps, in your omniscience, you can tell us how the Hell you can have an i**********n without any i**********nists? You have two options.
1). Provide proof. Accusations don't count. All this time. All those arrests. No convictions.
2)Admit you and anyone else who refers to this disturbance as an i**********n are liars.

Put up or shut up.
So tell us, oh Fountain of Wisdom. You continue to... (show quote)

BINGO

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Sep 10, 2022 09:24:04   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
soontobeindicted mattoid wrote:
That makes about 910 dumbs**ts too many for the world. Useless eaters.


911. You forgot to count yourself. I noticed you changed your name from Useful mattoid. Good thing. That WAS a stretch, believability wise. Out of curiosity, would it not have been simpler to just change it to Useless?

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Sep 10, 2022 09:26:21   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
American Vet wrote:
That's right, you violent, blood thirsty ELWNJ - all that junk about a trial, due process, etc. (and you call others "Facist?) - just k**l'em all.

Unless, of course, they are your beloved Seattle/Portland r****rs.

You are a miserable, pathetic POS.


Perhaps he should apply to the C*****l P****e Gestapo. They are always on the lookout for promising murderers who shoot visibly unarmed women.

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Sep 10, 2022 09:30:18   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
So tell us, oh Fountain of Wisdom. You continue to refer to the J****** 6 r**t as an "i**********n." I'll bet you can tell us exactly how many people have been charged with i**********n? Let's see, more than a year and a half later, more than 800 people arrested, some still in jail awaiting arraignment, and not one effing conviction of i**********n. Perhaps, in your omniscience, you can tell us how the Hell you can have an i**********n without any i**********nists? You have two options.
1). Provide proof. Accusations don't count. All this time. All those arrests. No convictions.
2)Admit you and anyone else who refers to this disturbance as an i**********n are liars.

Put up or shut up.
So tell us, oh Fountain of Wisdom. You continue to... (show quote)


Yes, please. I would VERY much like to hear the answer as well. With hundreds of videos, the full resources of the weaponized alphabet agencies, Congress, the presidency, 19 months, and an utter disregard for civil rights....and no i**********nists????

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Sep 10, 2022 09:46:08   #
336Robin Loc: North Carolina
 
Weswill wrote:
Please name me one r****r that has been charged as an insurectionist. No one has been charged as insurectionists concerning the J*** 6 r**t. So what insurectionists are you talking about whi you claim Trump helped out??
Who has the responsibility of securing the Capitol? Let me see,,, the house speaker,the senate majority leader, the DC chief of police and the mayor of DC. If anyone abaded or helped or comforted the r****rs it would be the above mentioned people not Trump. They had a more responsible role in allowing what happened on J** 6 than Trump. They plainly failed at their job of securing the capitol. So why not put your focus there where it should be rather than on Trump??
This is just another wasteful attempt to hopefully get something on Trump that would keep him from running again.
You all act like this was the first time an e******n was challenged and that all that happened was illegal or unconstitutional. In fact the constitution gives us the right to do just that. It does not say anything about us not being able to do this. Even on J** 6 it is in the constitution that we have a right to reject states e*******l v**es. It even gives us the procedures to do that. So all this is just talk.
Please name me one r****r that has been charged as... (show quote)


Does s******n work better for you. Poof! Wish granted.

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Sep 10, 2022 09:48:20   #
currahee506
 
We can expect nothing but lies from the current criminal cabal that is occupying the White House and the majority of American pretenders in Congress. These are NWO narcissists. They are the enemy of the American Republic. J****** 6 is their contrived "Polish Attack at the border (recall how N**is dressed as Poles attack German guards at the border)" to start the war against a l********e p*******t, "an outsider who has the means to drain the central bank-controlled swamp." It's a matter of time that the N**i-FBI personnel who instigated this f**e i**********n will be brought to justice for murder and treason.

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Sep 10, 2022 10:16:50   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Very cute trick, Perm, but it doesn't fly.
Instead of comparing the number arrested at each event, try something meaningful. Something I was very explicit about. Do the same comparison of the number of people ACTUALLY CHARGED and then CONVICTED for the events you list. LOTS of people were arrested during the summer r**ts. The vast VAST majority of them were released the next day with no charges ever filed against them. Including i**********nists (by your definition) and murderers. In contrast, the police have used video, airline tickets, hotel receipts, taxi records, and anything else they can to round up people who attended Trump's 1*6 rally and charge them with anything they can POSSIBLY remotely justify. But after 19 months.....no i**********n charges. Odd.
Very cute trick, Perm, but it doesn't fly. br In... (show quote)



Not so much, part of the problem stems from having to prove intent... remember that snag in the past?
So in my view, the charge is clear and obvious, and so does the greater number of the public, the law of the land requires much more than the simply obvious facts.. that "intent" is problematic..
we seem to settle for the assaults charges of a few and the 10 year term for such.. In the r**ts those charged with arson got the heavy penalties.. so shall we rewrite the law making it easier to make the charge stand up in court or shall we allow the existing writing stand?


WASHINGTON D.C. – For the past year, words like s******n, treason, and i**********n have been used to describe what happened on J*** 6, 2021.

Yet, none of the hundreds of people charged in connection with that day have been charged with those specific crimes.

“Those crimes are very, very hard to prove. They require basically an intent to try to frustrate or subvert the government,” said professor of constitutional law at the South Texas College of Law Josh Blackman.


https://www.click2houston.com/news/investigates/2022/01/07/j***6-has-been-called-an-i**********n-so-why-has-no-one-been-charged-with-that-crime/

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Sep 10, 2022 10:25:11   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
One Patriot wrote:
This isn’t the first time you posted this. So, now I am asking you to prove it. Show me (and everybody else) the video of the murdered victim saying that she wanted to k**l the Vice President and the speaker of the house.
Because from what I see, you are either a mind reader or you are parroting what you’ve heard. Please, prove me wrong and show the video of HER saying that SHE wanted to k**l them.


The words and intent are very obvious on the videos.. if she was shouting those exact words is immaterial.. she was leading the storming of the capital and was the first to climb through the destroyed window to attack..

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Sep 10, 2022 10:33:03   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
JR-57 wrote:
Only one little glitch in your article. There. Was. No. I**********n.
Read the FBI investigation final report.
Following is a quote from one of your like minded kindred spirits.

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the t***h is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the t***h is the greatest enemy of the State.” | Joseph Goebbels
Only one little glitch in your article. There. Was... (show quote)


Wrong, it is a matter of proving intent... the facts are very clear the goal , was to overturn the elected government and place the criminal trump back into the oval.. But how to prove that someone traveled across the country with the intent of overturning the government is extremely difficult.. they could always be swayed at the last minute by trump hysteria.

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Sep 10, 2022 10:34:01   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
permafrost wrote:
The words and intent are very obvious on the videos.. if she was shouting those exact words is immaterial.. she was leading the storming of the capital and was the first to climb through the destroyed window to attack..

Add the above to your list of lies. Compulsive.

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Sep 10, 2022 10:37:20   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
soontobeindicted mattoid wrote:
How's your bp today?

I kid and give my opinion. I'm not condemning people to death.




Oh really! I guess you forgot agreeing with Permie on page 3? Are you really this forgetful or is this an indication of severe TDS! 😂😂😂😂😂😂



soontobeindicted mattoid

permafrost wrote:
when an i**********nist determined to murder the VP and speaker of the house is breaking into the capital of our nation they must be shot.. and shoot to k**l is the order of the day on such and attack.. Byrd only error was to stop pulling the trigger..


Hear hear! I second that opinion……………… Says soontobeindicted

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Sep 10, 2022 11:38:43   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
Not so much, part of the problem stems from having to prove intent... remember that snag in the past?
So in my view, the charge is clear and obvious, and so does the greater number of the public, the law of the land requires much more than the simply obvious facts.. that "intent" is problematic..
we seem to settle for the assaults charges of a few and the 10 year term for such.. In the r**ts those charged with arson got the heavy penalties.. so shall we rewrite the law making it easier to make the charge stand up in court or shall we allow the existing writing stand?


WASHINGTON D.C. – For the past year, words like s******n, treason, and i**********n have been used to describe what happened on J*** 6, 2021.

Yet, none of the hundreds of people charged in connection with that day have been charged with those specific crimes.

“Those crimes are very, very hard to prove. They require basically an intent to try to frustrate or subvert the government,” said professor of constitutional law at the South Texas College of Law Josh Blackman.


https://www.click2houston.com/news/investigates/2022/01/07/j***6-has-been-called-an-i**********n-so-why-has-no-one-been-charged-with-that-crime/
Not so much, part of the problem stems from having... (show quote)

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