Striker Loc: Arizona Rockies

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Interesting thought, that "citizenship" in a State which opts to be it's own country. Too bad we're not seeing any States with the guts to actually secede. Sadly, the Constitution omitted anything positive in that regard.

Steve700

How are we going to come together when you have 2 groups --- 1 basically honest about t***h, integrity, self-reliance ---- The other arrogant, feeling themselves enlightened and preoccupied with victimhood, America's faults, race, blatantly deceitful and all full of subversive Marxist propaganda and using Saul Alinsky's tactics of how to gain power through deceit, to the point it is nearly always impossible to carry on an intelligent political conversation with them.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

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The fact is, Steve, that we will NEVER come together because we - progressives and conservatives are on absoluteliy opposite ends of the pole, and have been ever since the Democrat Party was taken over by the C*******ts within this country. Once Joe McCarthy was forced to stop his "witchhunt" for c****es in the '50's, the c****es went into hiding, biding their time when it would be feasible to emerge as themselves once again. They carefully crafted their plan to take over America (my words, no one else's) "peacefully", and they KNEW it had to be clandestinely. They injected themselves into major areas where they could influence others to serve as their tools to influence other Americans into accepting oppressive legislation. Those fields they went into big time were: politics, unions, education, entertainment, and the media. Once that was done, they owned the conversation in America and all they had to do was operate clandestinely, pretending to be good Americans, all the while bending minds that COULD be bent into accepting unAmerican legislation and policies if a good reason could be planted behind the legislation.

Over the years they have become bolder and more open in their language and in their determination to rule all of us THEIR way. Their human tools didn't have to be c****es - they could use any American who was dumb enough to buy into the operation they didn't know was in fact a plot, or who was greedy enough to simply work for "rewards" in the form of "subsidizing", loans, freebies, etc.

The c*******ts have succeeded immensely because while they were are war with America, America didn't know it was at war and hence didn't do due diligence. C*******m isn't about "how to run a country", it is about "how to control every aspect of everyone's life. Once every citizen can be used as a tool without fighting back, the c*******ts are content. They are very close to attaining that goal. The only thing standing between their total control of us are a few people in various professions who speak up and say "Hell no, you aren't living my life for me!"

So.....why would ANY GOOD AMERICAN CHOOSE TO COMPROMISE WITH THE C*******TS JUST TO GIVE AWAY HIS LIFE TO THOSE WHO DON'T VALUE ANYONE'S LIFE? The answer is that NO GOOD AMERICAN would compromise to enable the o*******w of his nation by his lifelong enemy who is clandestinely living as an American.

When ANYONE mentions "compromise", be wary. Most of our freedoms have already been c*********d away by the c*******t tools within our government and those who support the loss of freedoms. ANYONE WHO FIGHTS TO ALTER OUR FREEDOMS WITHIN THE BILL OF RIGHTS SHOULD BE BRANDED "C*******T" because he, himself may not be a c*******t, his goal is at one with the C*******t Party.

Striker Loc: Arizona Rockies

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Good enough, Steve, BUT that "self-reliance" thing was not evidenced by seeing 98% of the v**ers choose from a pair of lesser-evils, both pitching more Collectivist Force. Despite seeing some resistance yesterday, much of the Old Guard and the sick collectivist irrationality seems firmly in place.

We're not likely to even see a move to ousting the tyranny of national health-care, giving the sovereign Individuals the freedom not to pay taxes for bad bureaus and "laws", nor an end to interference with other "nations", while making Wars which will sacrifice more of our People who have the supposed Right to Life.

Such Principle long lost.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: The c*******ts were right and have almost won. They've brought the conversation from "MY RIGHT" to "HOPEFULLY, STILL MY RIGHT". C****es control the conversation and have since the '50's and in some respects since the '30's, and that conversation has been lasered in on watering down the Constitution, "freedom" for a******n on demand, etc. A large number of republicans have fallen for it, and don't even know it. I know you are an agnostic, but I am compelled to say God help us because no one else will.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

What is it they say about out of the mouths of babies.

Well I say some things that come out of the mouths of older men can be pearls of wisdom.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

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Sounds good, but what we also should remember that out of the mouths of older men can come vomitus, and this is common in government. Wisdom is in short supply, and I feel many legislators don't want any part of wisdom, just power.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

My remark was in no way meant to be about the men in Washington.

I think we both agree that self interest rules in Washington.

It was just a remark meant for lpnmajor.