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Aug 7, 2022 18:39:19   #
son of witless
 
JR-57 wrote:
I wasn’t necessarily talking about change. I simply like that period and find it very interesting.




The British had severely restricted industry in the Colonies before the Revolution. During the War of 1812 imports couldn't get into America because of the British Navy Blockade.

It was really after the War of 1812 that change just exploded in America. The Louisiana Purchase opened up new western land, and the invention of the steamboat changed everything, and New York City was the epicenter of trade and finance. New York City was just an over grown sea village, known for squalor and pigs running in the streets. Philadelphia and Boston outclassed it in size and trade volume.

Because of it's harbor from the 1820s onward New York became the commercial capital of this young brash nation that began throwing elbows at the Europeans around the world.

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Aug 7, 2022 21:13:12   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
son of witless wrote:
The last of that type I read was Last of the Mohicans.


The Frontiersman is historical fiction. Much taken from journals from Simon Kenton and the history of Tecumseh. I just talked myself into reading it again.

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Aug 7, 2022 21:17:38   #
son of witless
 
JFlorio wrote:
The Frontiersman is historical fiction. Much taken from journals from Simon Kenton and the history of Tecumseh. I just talked myself into reading it again.


I like that type, but there is the sadness, because you know in the end the Indians are always doomed. The Last of the Mahicans is that way.

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Aug 7, 2022 21:22:56   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
son of witless wrote:
I like that type, but there is the sadness, because you know in the end the Indians are always doomed. The Last of the Mahicans is that way.


The book doesn't pull any punch's. The actual accounts from frontiersman's journals and Indian stories is amazing in it's honesty. For instance; Tecumseh was a bit of a profit. Very interesting. We have a tendency to romanticize Indians because how badly they were mistreated, but they were doomed. Either by the Europeans, Mexicans, or some other more advanced culture. They were also very brutal to other tribes.

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Aug 8, 2022 06:31:08   #
Big Kahuna
 
JFlorio wrote:
The book doesn't pull any punch's. The actual accounts from frontiersman's journals and Indian stories is amazing in it's honesty. For instance; Tecumseh was a bit of a profit. Very interesting. We have a tendency to romanticize Indians because how badly they were mistreated, but they were doomed. Either by the Europeans, Mexicans, or some other more advanced culture. They were also very brutal to other tribes.


I visited Block Island and the Mohegan Bluffs where the Mohegan's were thrown off the 100' bluff by the Niantic tribe. Very frightening to see and very brutal.

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Aug 8, 2022 07:05:05   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
JFlorio wrote:
The Frontiersman is historical fiction. Much taken from journals from Simon Kenton and the history of Tecumseh. I just talked myself into reading it again.

There’s also Frontiersman written by Meredith Mason Brown about Daniel Boone and the making of America.
I suggest you read “Undaunted Courage” by Stephen Ambrose. Also, “I Should Be Extremely Happy in Your Company” by Brian Hall.

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Aug 8, 2022 09:16:33   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
JR-57 wrote:
There’s also Frontiersman written by Meredith Mason Brown about Daniel Boone and the making of America.
I suggest you read “Undaunted Courage” by Stephen Ambrose. Also, “I Should Be Extremely Happy in Your Company” by Brian Hall.


Thanks. I will. The frontiersman has Boone in it but Simon Kenton did much of the exploration of Ky.

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Aug 8, 2022 09:32:41   #
son of witless
 
JFlorio wrote:
The book doesn't pull any punch's. The actual accounts from frontiersman's journals and Indian stories is amazing in it's honesty. For instance; Tecumseh was a bit of a profit. Very interesting. We have a tendency to romanticize Indians because how badly they were mistreated, but they were doomed. Either by the Europeans, Mexicans, or some other more advanced culture. They were also very brutal to other tribes.


Just as the Europeans fought among themselves so did the Indians. The various tribes often allied themselves with different European Powers who were fighting one another.

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