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Republican senators are starting to freak out after blocking the veterans' health bill
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Aug 2, 2022 22:31:01   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Milosia2 wrote:
V**e yes or just stfu !


We wish you would STFU

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Aug 3, 2022 05:59:30   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
permafrost wrote:
Turns out it was not pork at all.. it was making the funding dedicated rather then discretionary.. in other words the republicans want to be able to remove the funding any time the v**e comes up..

Read the link, the flip by the GOP was much worse than I imagined.. talk about screwing the troops, the gop may have set a record as turn coats..

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/gop-reject-bill-help-veterans-exposed-toxins-rcna40474

Roll Call reported, “Some conservatives have raised objections to the bill because it would reclassify nearly $400 billion in current-law VA spending from discretionary to mandatory accounts, thereby potentially freeing up more budget authority to increase discretionary spending on other domestic programs.”

The trouble is, that helps explain the opposition from the Republicans who were already against the bill. What about the GOP senators who were on board with the legislation before changing their minds last night?

The Military Times reported Republicans scuttled the PACT Act because of “a surprise deal on health care and environmental policies announced by Senate Democratic leaders.” In other words, Schumer and Sen. Joe Manchin struck a deal on a domestic package, and Republicans were so outraged by Democratic efforts to govern that the Senate GOP threw a tantrum — one that would undermine veterans’ needs.

The second question, meanwhile, is what will happen now. Republican Sen. John Cornyn said overnight that he expects the bill will ultimately pass “in some form or another.” For the sake of veterans and their families, we can certainly hope so.

But for today, it looks like a whole lot of GOP lawmakers turned a cold shoulder — for no good reason — to veterans who deserved better. As the editorial board of The Kansas City Star put it, Republicans “betrayed sick veterans” with a move that “boggles the mind.”
Turns out it was not pork at all.. it was making t... (show quote)

I consider a $400 billion blank check pork.
I consider a $75 million telescope pork.
I consider a $1 million naval center in landlocked West Virginia pork. (🤔 what state does Manchnin represent?)
I consider $1.5 million for political parties in Puerto Rico pork.
I consider $5.1 million for debt forgiveness for the District of Columbia pork.
The list goes on with billions more of pork.

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Aug 3, 2022 06:12:37   #
rjoeholl
 
Milosia2 wrote:
New sources ?
What would you tell a Wounded Combat Veteran sitting in a wheelchair outside of your office at the Capital ?
Would you Laugh in his face the way you just did ?


I'm a wheelchair confined veteran and I don't see a single thing wrong with not passing this pork laden bill.

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Aug 3, 2022 06:22:22   #
Big dog
 
microphor wrote:
You're so full of poop it's unbelievable. Let me tell you something ahole, my son happens to be one of those wounded vets you're talking about. So you can shove your attitude right up you're ahole. He doesn't want a bill established where the money could be diverted and used elsewhere, he wants a clean bill that is a cemented to the veterans programs and can only be used for that purpose, unlike the one that they're trying to push right now. I will laugh at your ignorant a$$ till hell freezes over!
You're so full of poop it's unbelievable. Let me t... (show quote)

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Aug 3, 2022 06:36:35   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
rjoeholl wrote:
I'm a wheelchair confined veteran and I don't see a single thing wrong with not passing this pork laden bill.

🇺🇸🫡

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Aug 3, 2022 09:31:41   #
Rose42
 
Milosia2 wrote:
That is simply , not true.
Bernie and company have brought up and passed more bills than the republicans have rejected. John Testor is still today working on the Veteran’s Bills that the republicans refuse to pass.
Nein ! Nein ! Nein ! Nein ! Nein ! Nein !


Silly troll. Yes of course its true. You are in denial as usual.

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Aug 3, 2022 11:39:52   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
JR-57 wrote:
I consider a $400 billion blank check pork.
I consider a $75 million telescope pork.
I consider a $1 million naval center in landlocked West Virginia pork. (🤔 what state does Manchnin represent?)
I consider $1.5 million for political parties in Puerto Rico pork.
I consider $5.1 million for debt forgiveness for the District of Columbia pork.
The list goes on with billions more of pork.


It seems you missed the part where the rejection by the GOP is over making the funding mandentory rather the discretionary. with that, pork in found in every bill, from both parties..

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Aug 3, 2022 14:23:33   #
WEBCO
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Republican senators are starting to freak out after blocking the veterans' health bill
Sarah K. Burris
August 02, 2022

Republican senators are starting to freak out after blocking the veterans' health bill
Wounded veteran soldier sitting in a wheelchair (Shutterstock)


Republican senators have discovered that trying to block veterans from healthcare doesn't play well among American v**ers. With fewer than 100 days until the 2022 midterm e******ns, GOP senators who previously supported legislation to care for veterans with cancer due to burn pits v**ed it down. Now they're having second thoughts, Politico reported.

It was mere weeks ago when 84 Senators, all Democrats and a hefty chunk of Republicans, v**ed to pass the bill. One small tweak in the language was eliminated involving taking over private care, but it didn't change anything meaningful in the bill. But last week, Republicans v**ed it down. They've been trying to justify it by saying that Democrats added in all of these budget spending measures, but those were actually in the bill they supported.

Former "Daily Show" host Jon Stewart raged at Republican officials for the excuse in videos that have gone v***l.

Veterans are protesting by staging a sit-in along the halls of the Senate office buildings, forcing Republicans to walk by them. Activist Paul Rieckhoff of Righteous Media told MSNBC's Nicolle Wallace that at least one of the men sleeping on the floor is hooked up to oxygen.


Former Donald Trump Homeland Security chief of staff, Miles Taylor, said the opposition is actually part of an ongoing effort by lawmakers like Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) to defund the Veterans Administration and privatize it. He recalled when he was working for the Trump administration that there were many who were trying to bring down the VA, but decided it couldn't happen in Trump's first term because he would need to be reelected.

But other Republicans claim that it was an effort by Republican Sen. Pat Toomey (R-PA), who tried to claim a "budgetary gimmick." As political strategists say frequently, however, if you're trying to explain yourself, you're losing.



"Regardless of their reasoning, the GOP was quickly forced to play defense against both Democrats and veterans’ advocates who were caught off-guard by Republican delaying tactics after the party greenlit a nearly identical bill in June," wrote Politico.

Sen. John Thune (R-SD) has tried to blame Democrats for Republicans v****g against the bill, saying they "screwed up the first time." His problem is he has to explain how Democrats screwed up but still got 84 v**es to pass it.


“I’m doing everything I can do,” said Sen. Jon Tester (D-MT), who has been trying to get the bill passed since 2021. "I don’t know [if] people really understand what they were v****g on, to be honest with you. There’s no slush fund in this."

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Toomey is trying to rally the GOP around an amendment, which some Republicans like Sens. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) and Rob Portman (R-OH) would support, but they're not willing to let the bill die if the amendment isn't approved.

The GOP's lack of support has pitted Republicans against groups like the American Legion and AMVETS, which have volunteers at the Capitol. The Vietnam Veterans of America have been close allies to Iraq and Afghanistan veterans because they too experienced toxic chemical exposure when fighting overseas. It's become a public relations nightmare mere days before the senators are expected to go home to campaign during the August Recess.

Doesn’t that beat all ?
John Thune -republican
Wants to blame the Dems for republicans v****g against the bill.
Just when you think you’ve heard the craziest chit from the right , there’s more.
Was it the Dems fault they for the bill the first time , but v**ed against
the same exact bill the second time.???
If the Dems possess this sort of power we really need to be using it to our advantage.

Oh , and don’t forget how Donald was all about “helping” veterans.

** He recalled when he was working for the Trump administration that there were many who were trying to bring down the VA, but decided it couldn't happen in Trump's first term because he would need to be reelected.***
Not helping, trying to destroy the VA for a plan to privatize it.
Republican senators are starting to freak out afte... (show quote)


I'm a combat veteran, and I blame the $400 million in pork the democrats added into the bill. If this crap hadn't have been added, it would have passed.

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Aug 3, 2022 14:58:02   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
permafrost wrote:
Name some of that "pork"....

Have you ever seen a bill by Reps which had no pork??


Look up the difference between discretionary and mandatory spending. I'm tired of doing research for Liberals

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Aug 3, 2022 15:05:32   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
WEBCO wrote:
I'm a combat veteran, and I blame the $400 million in pork the democrats added into the bill. If this crap hadn't have been added, it would have passed.


Have to telll you web, it has now passed..

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Aug 3, 2022 15:23:41   #
dcmdm85
 
The main reasons why some Republicans opposing this bill is not they don't care about Vets, but do to 4 billion dollars of " pork barrel " spending that has nothing to with Veterans Healthcare. Pork like how c*****e c****es is affecting the Veterans or force them in to some of worst VA hospitals in order to get care instead allowing them to go to nearest civilian hospital for treatment, or some other bull crap of the democrat greenness deals.

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Aug 3, 2022 15:23:47   #
Dirk Dig
 
Things like facility leases, recruiting bonuses, and lots of other stuff that have nothing to do with Burn Pit issues. VA has a budget process and many of the things in the Act belong in their budget approval process.

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Aug 3, 2022 15:28:04   #
dcmdm85
 
Where were congress, both Democrats and Republicans these Veterans were complaining about their treatment under the Clinton, the Obama and Both Bush administrations. But it was President Trump who tried to change the VA for the betterment of all Veterans hum .

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Aug 3, 2022 15:35:17   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Republican senators are starting to freak out after blocking the veterans' health bill
Sarah K. Burris
August 02, 2022

Republican senators are starting to freak out after blocking the veterans' health bill
Wounded veteran soldier sitting in a wheelchair (Shutterstock)


Republican senators have discovered that trying to block veterans from healthcare doesn't play well among American v**ers. With fewer than 100 days until the 2022 midterm e******ns, GOP senators who previously supported legislation to care for veterans with cancer due to burn pits v**ed it down. Now they're having second thoughts, Politico reported.

It was mere weeks ago when 84 Senators, all Democrats and a hefty chunk of Republicans, v**ed to pass the bill. One small tweak in the language was eliminated involving taking over private care, but it didn't change anything meaningful in the bill. But last week, Republicans v**ed it down. They've been trying to justify it by saying that Democrats added in all of these budget spending measures, but those were actually in the bill they supported.

Former "Daily Show" host Jon Stewart raged at Republican officials for the excuse in videos that have gone v***l.

Veterans are protesting by staging a sit-in along the halls of the Senate office buildings, forcing Republicans to walk by them. Activist Paul Rieckhoff of Righteous Media told MSNBC's Nicolle Wallace that at least one of the men sleeping on the floor is hooked up to oxygen.


Former Donald Trump Homeland Security chief of staff, Miles Taylor, said the opposition is actually part of an ongoing effort by lawmakers like Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) to defund the Veterans Administration and privatize it. He recalled when he was working for the Trump administration that there were many who were trying to bring down the VA, but decided it couldn't happen in Trump's first term because he would need to be reelected.

But other Republicans claim that it was an effort by Republican Sen. Pat Toomey (R-PA), who tried to claim a "budgetary gimmick." As political strategists say frequently, however, if you're trying to explain yourself, you're losing.



"Regardless of their reasoning, the GOP was quickly forced to play defense against both Democrats and veterans’ advocates who were caught off-guard by Republican delaying tactics after the party greenlit a nearly identical bill in June," wrote Politico.

Sen. John Thune (R-SD) has tried to blame Democrats for Republicans v****g against the bill, saying they "screwed up the first time." His problem is he has to explain how Democrats screwed up but still got 84 v**es to pass it.


“I’m doing everything I can do,” said Sen. Jon Tester (D-MT), who has been trying to get the bill passed since 2021. "I don’t know [if] people really understand what they were v****g on, to be honest with you. There’s no slush fund in this."

Join Raw Story Investigates. Go AD-Free.
Toomey is trying to rally the GOP around an amendment, which some Republicans like Sens. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) and Rob Portman (R-OH) would support, but they're not willing to let the bill die if the amendment isn't approved.

The GOP's lack of support has pitted Republicans against groups like the American Legion and AMVETS, which have volunteers at the Capitol. The Vietnam Veterans of America have been close allies to Iraq and Afghanistan veterans because they too experienced toxic chemical exposure when fighting overseas. It's become a public relations nightmare mere days before the senators are expected to go home to campaign during the August Recess.

Doesn’t that beat all ?
John Thune -republican
Wants to blame the Dems for republicans v****g against the bill.
Just when you think you’ve heard the craziest chit from the right , there’s more.
Was it the Dems fault they for the bill the first time , but v**ed against
the same exact bill the second time.???
If the Dems possess this sort of power we really need to be using it to our advantage.

Oh , and don’t forget how Donald was all about “helping” veterans.

** He recalled when he was working for the Trump administration that there were many who were trying to bring down the VA, but decided it couldn't happen in Trump's first term because he would need to be reelected.***
Not helping, trying to destroy the VA for a plan to privatize it.
Republican senators are starting to freak out afte... (show quote)

Freak out that the demonrats can’t give up lying to prople

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Aug 3, 2022 15:36:18   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Milosia2 wrote:
New sources ?
What would you tell a Wounded Combat Veteran sitting in a wheelchair outside of your office at the Capital ?
Would you Laugh in his face the way you just did ?


By the time they see any real bill to help them they will still be sitting there

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