DASHY

Liberals get angry every time a so-called pro-lifer fails to consider the life of the woman who faces the hard decision about a******n. It is really not possible to force a woman to carry a pregnancy to term against her will without locking her up the minute she gets pregnant. Making a******n illegal will not do it.

RandyBrian Loc: Texas

We so-called pro-lifers ALWAYS consider the LIFE of the woman. But we do not prioritize her embarrassment, her finances, her long-term plans, her convenience, or her partying goals for the next 36 weeks ABOVE the life of her baby. If a******ns are illegal, as they should be, then there is no hard decision about murdering a child. She will have to deal with the situation she helped create, even if it wasn't by her choice. And you are right. There is no stopping a determined woman from having an a******n, just as there is no stopping a determined murderer, suicide, or assassin. That does not mean that those things should be made legal, or accepted by society.
THAT is the bottom line. Pro-choicers place a woman's 'right to choose' as more important than k*****g a baby. Pro-lifers do not. We view the life of the baby as just as precious and as important. However, in the very VERY rare case where the MEDICAL certainty is that either the baby is aborted or the mother WILL die, then yes, it should be up to the family. I would choose to save the mother.
The entire, total, complete theory that the baby is NOT human was generated by the extreme left TO JUSTIFY K*****G IT! Pure evil rationalization. There never was any debate or idea that the baby was NOT human until evil doctors decided that performing a******ns would generate a lot of money, and would be a good way to reduce the number of B****s. And the left embraced it. So here we are, 63 million dead babies later, and supposedly intelligent people are arguing that they are nothing but tissue and the woman can discard it if she wants. America's very own holocaust.

DASHY

"Women who have a******ns are murderers" is the political position of so-called pro-lifers. You are in the minority as you continue to rag on about the sanctity of life. A******n is a routine part of reproductive health care. It is estimated that about 25% of women will undergo an a******n before the age of 45. Half of a******n patients are already mothers. Most Americans want a******ns to remain legal. Choosing a******n is a moral dilemma for everybody involved. It should not be made more difficult by making it illegal. Forcing someone to continue with a dangerous or unwanted pregnancy is morally unacceptable.

RandyBrian Loc: Texas

But k*****g a living human child is morally acceptable????? Your morals are severely out of whack.
And women who k**l their babies ARE murderers. That is not a political view, that is a FACT. According to the Legal Information Institute's definition, an a******n would fall under several types of murder. K*****g is not always murder, but in this case it IS. All the rest are just rationalizations to justify what some people want. At one time the majority of Americans wanted B****s to be s***es. Later, a majority of Americans wanted them to be second class citizens. During WWII the majority wanted Japanese-Americans interned in POW camps. What the majority wants is not always right or moral. Sometimes it is vicious and destructive and evil.
A******n is a perfect example.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Exactly correct. The reason progressives are always throwing hissy fits when the Courts don't rule in their preferred manner is they don't understand the responsibility of the Courts. Majority opinions of the people don't, or shouldn't matter to the courts. Courts rule on law and Constitutionality. Legislators have the ability to change the laws. this ruling striking down Roe V Wade was the correct ruling IMO. Not because I am against a******n, but because this a legislative issue for the individual states to decide.

DASHY

K*****g is not murder when the k**ler was acting in self defense. Our justice system recognizes the right of someone to protect himself or herself from harm. An unwanted pregnancy would absolutely be harmful to the pregnant person. How would your own highfalutin morals hold up if you discover your 12-year old daughter is pregnant from being raped by your brother?

RandyBrian Loc: Texas

My morals would hold up fine. My brother would be brought to justice. My 12 year old daughter would be helped and consoled and tended to throughout the pregnancy, and her child, my grandchild, would be welcomed and loved and raised as the innocent child he or she would be.
It is very rare that a pregnancy is physically harmful to the mother, and I have already addressed that earlier. If you are claiming stress, embarrassment, frustration, inconvenience and a disruption of plans is 'absolutely harmful to the pregnant person', enough to justify k*****g (murdering!) her baby, then you have no ethics, no morality, and a tiny shriveled soul, and so does anyone else who supports a******n. But then, we had already established that.

DASHY

Like most so-called pro-lifers, you stick to your story no matter what the circumstances. A******n is not murder. It is an available health care option for those who need it. Everybody who does not agree with you "has no ethics, no morality, and a tiny shriveled soul". That would include most Americans who would likely choose a******n for their minor child who was raped by her uncle. Saving the life of their child would be their first moral obligation.

Ricktloml

The actual statistic is LESS than 1% of a******ns are performed for rape/incest/health of the mother/health of the baby. So, the other 99+% are for convenience. You are absolutely right in your assessment of the moral character of those who support/promote murder

RandyBrian Loc: Texas

Those are your expressed opinions. Okay. You will have to answer for them, whether you believe in God or not. And I stand by my statements. By any legal and reasonable definition, k*****g a baby is murder. The law allows k*****g in specific circumstances, including a******n in some cases. That does not make it any less a murder. If you want to call it health care, go right ahead. It is still murder. Amputating a foot because it is infected is health care. Amputating the entire leg so that the foot never has a chance to get infected is m********n. I stand by my statements about the morals, etc of anyone who has an a******n or condones them. Just because a lot of people have chosen the darkness does not mean that it is the light. And believe it or not, my heart goes out to anyone facing such a hellish situation. I deeply empathize with them and their torment, and I will, and have, helped them any way I can....short of allowing them to k**l one child in order to spare another a period of suffering and unhappiness. Which one of them would k**l a 6 month old because it was making their lives miserable and unhappy....which one would do so in order to spare their other children having to share rooms or resources? There ARE such people, you know. Generally, they are in prison, and we call them words like 'monsters' and 'mentally ill' and 'insane'.

RandyBrian Loc: Texas

DASHY

If a******n is really murder under our justice system, why are all the millions of women who have a******ns, along with their helpers, not being punished for their capital crimes and sent to jail? Pro-lifers call a******n murder to support their so-called pro-life position, but our system of justice does nothing to punish the women who choose a******n. These women are not 'monsters' and 'mentally ill' and 'insane'.

Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois

If she's not married, a fornicator and a murderer.

Side note Dashy...if a woman used the pill and a man used a condom in tandem, over 99 percent of pregnancies would be prevented and this whole discussion would be a moot point.

RandyBrian Loc: Texas

I did not say they were. Perhaps you need to reread my post.
They HAVE been taught the lie for 50 years that a******ns are not REALLY k*****g a child. Not REALLY.
The murdering of babies is allowed because morally weak and bankrupt politicians and judges have allowed it to be legal. It is still murder. Look up some definitions of murder. I did.
And yes, specific words can be used to support a particular position.....such as calling a living baby a 'fetus' or a 'unviable mass', or calling an appalling procedure to k**l a child 'health care'. Gee, where have I heard THAT lately?

DASHY

Our criminal justice system ignores your moral instruction on a******n seekers being charged with murder. No charges. No convictions.