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Apr 2, 2022 16:26:59   #
son of witless
 
Birdmam wrote:
Believe what you want Russia is winning


What is winning ? They are k*****g a lot of Ukrainian civilians purposely. Yes they are winning. They are destroying a lot of buildings in Ukraine. I suppose that is winning.

When they win, what is their victory ? A lot of the territory they will have conquered will be in ruin. I suppose if you want to conquer the moon, it is doable, but all you will have is cheese. The parts of Ukraine the Russians will end up with don't have cheese or much else other than rubble.

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Apr 2, 2022 16:43:32   #
BIRDMAN
 
son of witless wrote:
What is winning ? They are k*****g a lot of Ukrainian civilians purposely. Yes they are winning. They are destroying a lot of buildings in Ukraine. I suppose that is winning.

When they win, what is their victory ? A lot of the territory they will have conquered will be in ruin. I suppose if you want to conquer the moon, it is doable, but all you will have is cheese. The parts of Ukraine the Russians will end up with don't have cheese or much else other than rubble.


Yes that’s what you do in war you k**l the enemy

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Apr 2, 2022 16:54:50   #
son of witless
 
Birdmam wrote:
Yes that’s what you do in war you k**l the enemy


So then you have no problemo if the Ukrainians begin targeting Russian civilians also ?

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Apr 2, 2022 17:26:31   #
kemmer
 
whole2th wrote:
That viewpoint has a familar Talmudic and PROTOCOLS theme.

Why don’t you go peddle your religious crap on some bottom feeder religious website?🙄

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Apr 2, 2022 18:14:49   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
son of witless wrote:
You're as wrong as you can be. The l*****t hippies who control Western Europe never believed the threat from Russia was real. Especially after the Soviet Union died. Now they identify with the Ukrainians. The Ukrainians are these heroic underdogs defying a stronger invading foe. NATO may not know what to do, but the individual countries will give wh**ever aid they think they can give to Ukraine without getting nuked by Vlad.

Now when Trump or whomever the next American Republican President takes Deadbeat Europeans to task for cowering beneath America's nuclear shield, they will willingly cough up money and troops. It will also be easier to get them to recognize China's threat to them.

Except for the dead Ukrainians, Vlad's little adventure was the greatest thing to happen to the Decadent West. Ukraine has all of the pain and death, while Europe has been b***hed slapped into seeing reality. This also puts a dent into that other Western disease, G****l W*****g.
You're as wrong as you can be. The l*****t hippies... (show quote)


Time will tell...

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Apr 2, 2022 18:22:57   #
kemmer
 
Birdmam wrote:
Winning that Ukraine’s will not join NATO this war should have never happened and in the end Ukraine will be neutral and they will not join NATO

If Putin thinks Ukraine will ever be a friend to Russia, he’s insane. Unless Putin puts Ukraine under permanent military occupation, Ukraine will join the EU. Meanwhile Russia’s economy has tanked. Thousands of Ukrainian civilians are dead, cities in rubble, and Russia’s ruble is all but worthless. Was it all worth it? NATO has never been an aggressor, but a safeguard against Russian aggression.

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Apr 2, 2022 18:25:27   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
son of witless wrote:
What is winning ? They are k*****g a lot of Ukrainian civilians purposely. Yes they are winning. They are destroying a lot of buildings in Ukraine. I suppose that is winning.

When they win, what is their victory ? A lot of the territory they will have conquered will be in ruin. I suppose if you want to conquer the moon, it is doable, but all you will have is cheese. The parts of Ukraine the Russians will end up with don't have cheese or much else other than rubble.


That's your idea of a lot???

Just over a thousand spread out there very the entire nation, over the course of five weeks...

When they're purposefully targeting civilians...

Wow...Russians suck at k*****g civilians... They should take notes the next time America freedomizes a nation...



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Apr 2, 2022 18:26:11   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
son of witless wrote:
So then you have no problemo if the Ukrainians begin targeting Russian civilians also ?


The Ukrainian military has been targeting civilians for almost a decade...

Didn't seem to bother anyone...

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Apr 2, 2022 18:30:59   #
whole2th
 
kemmer wrote:
Why don’t you go peddle your religious crap on some bottom feeder religious website?🙄


What's wrong with expressing "Judeo-Christian" perspectives, values and beliefs here in these political discussions?

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Apr 2, 2022 18:58:01   #
kemmer
 
whole2th wrote:
What's wrong with expressing "Judeo-Christian" perspectives, values and beliefs here in these political discussions?

I haven’t seen any “Judaeo-Christian” anything from you except perverse interpretations.

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Apr 2, 2022 19:13:44   #
son of witless
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Time will tell...


Of course. This is rapidly developing into a stalemate. This summer it will get real interesting. Europe's appetite for Russian Gas should abate. I doubt that China will be in that good of shape to keep Vlad financially afloat.

China's zero tolerance policies for C****a are hurting them. There is not much natural immunity in China and now the severe lock downs are hurting manufacturing. In the first quarter the CSI 300 Index lost just under 15 % and the Shenzen Component Index lost 18 %. World Commodity price increases are hitting Chinese consumer goods companies in the wallet.

China's real estate market is in the same shape the American real estate market was in 2009. China is also in a pissing match with their trading partner Australia. None of this bodes well for China's ability to carry the economy of it's weaker partner Russia in the next 6 months.

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Apr 2, 2022 19:16:36   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
son of witless wrote:
Of course. This is rapidly developing into a stalemate. This summer it will get real interesting. Europe's appetite for Russian Gas should abate. I doubt that China will be in that good of shape to keep Vlad financially afloat.

China's zero tolerance policies for C****a are hurting them. There is not much natural immunity in China and now the severe lock downs are hurting manufacturing. In the first quarter the CSI 300 Index lost just under 15 % and the Shenzen Component Index lost 18 %. World Commodity price increases are hitting Chinese consumer goods companies in the wallet.

China's real estate market is in the same shape the American real estate market was in 2009. China is also in a pissing match with their trading partner Australia. None of this bodes well for China's ability to carry the economy of it's weaker partner Russia in the next 6 months.
Of course. This is rapidly developing into a stale... (show quote)


China's economy will be fine...

But I agree, they're taking a hit....

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Apr 2, 2022 19:30:09   #
BIRDMAN
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
The Ukrainian military has been targeting civilians for almost a decade...

Didn't seem to bother anyone...


Ukrainians are good N**is were told

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Apr 2, 2022 19:36:55   #
BIRDMAN
 
son of witless wrote:
So then you have no problemo if the Ukrainians begin targeting Russian civilians also ?


They’ve been targeting Russian civilians since 2014 they k**led 14,000 of them

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Apr 2, 2022 20:26:15   #
son of witless
 
Birdmam wrote:
They’ve been targeting Russian civilians since 2014 they k**led 14,000 of them


You of course have proof.

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