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Jun 25, 2022 07:21:28   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
RandyBrian wrote:
I can only think of a few things more tragic or horrible than a victim of rape or incest, especially if that act results in a pregnancy. But one of them is murdering a human child in order to relieve the victim of some of the pain. And replacing it with a life time of knowing they participated in the death of an innocent.

I think a victim of rape or incest should have a choice. Isn’t there something called the morning after pill that could be administered within days to prevent the pregnancy?

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Jun 25, 2022 07:30:36   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
JR-57 wrote:
I think a victim of rape or incest should have a choice. Isn’t there something called the morning after pill that could be administered within days to prevent the pregnancy?


I believe there is. If so, that would be an option in the case of a rape...if the victim comes forward in time. In the case of incest, I think it unlikely that the victim will be aware of that option, or be in a position to make use of it.

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Jun 25, 2022 12:48:52   #
son of witless
 
RandyBrian wrote:
You are exactly right, IMO. If what the DNC says is true, then every state, with only a few exceptions will have legalized a******n.
Of course, we know that this is NOT true. The fight to end child murder will now continue at the state level, and the good guys will win some, and they will lose some. If the left are honest about their beliefs that a******n is simple women.s 'healthcare', they will start non-profit organisations and donate cash to provide t***sportation and housing for poor women to travel and get their babies k**led. Think that will happen? We'll see. Typically, the left only want to use taxpayers money for their social purposes.....their own money is much too dear to them.
Going forward, our battle to end the American Holocaust will continue in the individual states.
You are exactly right, IMO. If what the DNC says ... (show quote)


I don't know. One of these networks had a poll that said 60 + % of Americans agree with Democrats that A******n should be legal. Okay, then no problemo. Every state will make it legal. I do not see why everyone is freaking out.

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Jun 25, 2022 13:14:47   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Milosia2 wrote:
If youz want more babies the answer Is simple , come up with the cash involved in raising a child for 18 years.
Have a baby , get a check.
Unlike the Republican cut and run plan .
As soon as the baby is born they’re long gone and won’t be seen again until the child is old enough to v**e.


If youz want to avoid unwanted babies, don't have unprotected sex. It is as simple as that. Or, even more effective, don't have sex. SIMPLE. Human beings are not bound by instinct. We have conscious reasoning capabilities, do we not??

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Jun 25, 2022 13:32:58   #
Jlw Loc: Wisconsin
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
If youz want to avoid unwanted babies, don't have unprotected sex. It is as simple as that. Or, even more effective, don't have sex. SIMPLE. Human beings are not bound by instinct. We have conscious reasoning capabilities, do we not??


Who would want to have sex with he, she,it.

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Jun 25, 2022 13:37:00   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
If youz want to avoid unwanted babies, don't have unprotected sex. It is as simple as that. Or, even more effective, don't have sex. SIMPLE. Human beings are not bound by instinct. We have conscious reasoning capabilities, do we not??


You can't be serious, Nwk. Why should a woman have to remember to take a pill? And why should a man have to give up a little sensitivity by using a condom? You are demanding TOO MUCH from people! It so SO much easier to have a reliable government funded neighborhood chop shop available to make sure that we don't have to deal with any personal responsibility or consequences.
So much easier to k**l a baby than have a child degrading those weekend plans, and so much easier to ignore guilt when it is a fetus, or an unwanted temporary tumor, than a child.
Heinlein once said that 'man is not a rational creature. He is a rationalizing one.' (paraphrased, not an exact quote)
He was right, and the left's pathetic and illogical and outright JUVINILE denial of the humanity of preborn children is the ultimate example of rationalizing away evidence to justify a deeply desired conclusion.

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Jun 25, 2022 14:22:50   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Jlw wrote:
I think that she/he/it is a welfare cadet


Today is a different day than it was 45 years ago.
Back when people had jobs and looked toward to starting a family. Today is no longer like that. Younger people today cringe at the thought of having children .
The corporate capitalism has seeped over into the the Baby and all things involved.
Wages have not kept pace with rising costs of capitalism. Not to mention what has happened to our healthcare system.
With kids that are known to be sick a lot if the time, healthcare becomes a major priority.

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Jun 25, 2022 14:56:17   #
son of witless
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Today is a different day than it was 45 years ago.
Back when people had jobs and looked toward to starting a family. Today is no longer like that. Younger people today cringe at the thought of having children .
The corporate capitalism has seeped over into the the Baby and all things involved.
Wages have not kept pace with rising costs of capitalism. Not to mention what has happened to our healthcare system.
With kids that are known to be sick a lot if the time, healthcare becomes a major priority.
Today is a different day than it was 45 years ago.... (show quote)


Oh the good old days. They weren't as good as you remember them. People had kids during the depression. Now you have the pill. Stop making today's young adults victims. Our parents and grandparents raised 6 to 12 kids on far less.

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Jun 25, 2022 15:00:33   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
kemmer wrote:
Marriage e******y and contraception are not mentioned in the Constitution either, and now Thomas wants to go after those too. This court will be known as the court to revoke people’s established rights.


Don't worry. You can still bottom for anyone you want.

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Jun 25, 2022 15:45:59   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Jlw wrote:
Who would want to have sex with he, she,it.


Point taken!!

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Jun 25, 2022 15:50:11   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
RandyBrian wrote:
You can't be serious, Nwk. Why should a woman have to remember to take a pill? And why should a man have to give up a little sensitivity by using a condom? You are demanding TOO MUCH from people! It so SO much easier to have a reliable government funded neighborhood chop shop available to make sure that we don't have to deal with any personal responsibility or consequences.
So much easier to k**l a baby than have a child degrading those weekend plans, and so much easier to ignore guilt when it is a fetus, or an unwanted temporary tumor, than a child.
Heinlein once said that 'man is not a rational creature. He is a rationalizing one.' (paraphrased, not an exact quote)
He was right, and the left's pathetic and illogical and outright JUVINILE denial of the humanity of preborn children is the ultimate example of rationalizing away evidence to justify a deeply desired conclusion.
You can't be serious, Nwk. Why should a woman hav... (show quote)


"rationalizing away evidence to justify a deeply desired conclusion." IOW, they lie to themselves. Willful ignorance.

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Jun 25, 2022 15:57:44   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Today is a different day than it was 45 years ago.
Back when people had jobs and looked toward to starting a family. Today is no longer like that. Younger people today cringe at the thought of having children .
The corporate capitalism has seeped over into the the Baby and all things involved.
Wages have not kept pace with rising costs of capitalism. Not to mention what has happened to our healthcare system.
With kids that are known to be sick a lot if the time, healthcare becomes a major priority.
Today is a different day than it was 45 years ago.... (show quote)


Yes, we need to go full c*******t. Everyone has exactly the same amount of stuff, get paid the exact same whether they work hard or barely work at all. What happy people they are in c*******t countries.

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Jun 25, 2022 16:37:13   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Today is a different day than it was 45 years ago.
Back when people had jobs and looked toward to starting a family. Today is no longer like that. Younger people today cringe at the thought of having children .
The corporate capitalism has seeped over into the the Baby and all things involved.
Wages have not kept pace with rising costs of capitalism. Not to mention what has happened to our healthcare system.
With kids that are known to be sick a lot if the time, healthcare becomes a major priority.
Today is a different day than it was 45 years ago.... (show quote)

You’re right, today is no longer like that. The standard of living is much higher for the average family then it was 45 years ago. Bigger homes, far more expensive conveniences, bigger vehicles, etc. Wages have kept pace while the average American has spent themselves into far more debt all to keep up with the Joneses. It’s a choice for the majority of people and not the fault of capitalism. As an example: the average home size in 1970 vs. 2020.
▪️1950s | 983 sq ft | 3.37 people
▪️1960s | 1200 sq ft | 3.33 people
▪️1970s | 1500 sq ft | 3.14 people
▪️1980s | 1740 sq ft | 2.76 people
▪️1990s | 2080 sq ft | 2.63 people
▪️2000s | 2266 sq ft | 2.62 people
▪️2010s | 2392 sq ft | 2.59 people
▪️2020s | 2467 sq ft | 2.58 people
Couple that with all the other amenities that go along with that life style.

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Jun 25, 2022 17:35:57   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
microphor wrote:
Boy you're ignorant 🙄


You’re no business marvel yourself.
Think about it .
If it costs $300,000 to raise a child to 18.
If the people raising these children can’t pay , then all of the associated baby businesses are being gypped out of a pile of money. If they have it to spend , then every business shows a profit.
Where else will they get the money to pay
$300,000 . Good paying jobs are mostly a thing of the past.
So , welfare for the baby industry .
“Right to Work For Less” is a bad idea.
So, what should we do?

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Jun 25, 2022 17:45:04   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
Milosia2 wrote:
You’re no business marvel yourself.
Think about it .
If it costs $300,000 to raise a child to 18.
If the people raising these children can’t pay , then all of the associated baby businesses are being gypped out of a pile of money. If they have it to spend , then every business shows a profit.
Where else will they get the money to pay
$300,000 . Good paying jobs are mostly a thing of the past.
So , welfare for the baby industry .
“Right to Work For Less” is a bad idea.
So, what should we do?
You’re no business marvel yourself. br Think about... (show quote)

Wrong.
The median family income in 1970 was $9,870; adjusted for inflation that would be $68,930 in 2021.
The median family income in 2021 was actually $79,900.
What you state above is not correct.

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