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Jun 28, 2022 18:03:05   #
debeda
 
Shandel wrote:
Exactly. The republicans were so stupid they could have impeached him and been finished with this man. Now they have an albatross forever. Trump probably has dirt on many of them or gives them “ gifts” to keep quiet. He and his cronies need to be locked up and people wonder why violent crime is on the rise!


You can't seriously be trying to blame the steady rise in violent crime since 2011 on President Trump

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Jun 28, 2022 18:03:35   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
Shandel wrote:
Exactly. The republicans were so stupid they could have impeached him and been finished with this man. Now they have an albatross forever. Trump probably has dirt on many of them or gives them “ gifts” to keep quiet. He and his cronies need to be locked up and people wonder why violent crime is on the rise!


Do they though?

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Jun 28, 2022 18:22:54   #
Shandel
 
[quote=debeda]You can't seriously be trying to blame the steady rise in violent crime since 2011 on President Trump [/quote

Nope he is not to blame the rise but his actions of thinking he and his cronies are above the law is a terrible example and says it’s ok to ignore the law!

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Jun 28, 2022 18:24:46   #
Shandel
 
[quote=Shandel][quote=debeda]You can't seriously be trying to blame the steady rise in violent crime since 2011 on President Trump [/quote

Nope he is not to blame the rise but his actions of thinking he and his cronies are above the law is a terrible example and says it’s ok to ignore the law![/quote]

Also his not condemning violence and not supporting the police all the police!

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Jun 28, 2022 18:51:46   #
Big Kahuna
 
[quote=Shandel][quote=Big Kahuna]You can't comprehend that Trump actually won the 2020 P**********l e******n so how would you be able to comprehend the deeper significance of God/Jesus??[/quote

Trump never won. Do your research. Go to the 2016 E******n numbers look at 3rd& 4th party numbers in all the swing states. V**es which would go to “liberal” candidates at the time. Most were anti-Hillary v**es! Then look at the suburban women v**es and switch over Republican v**es. Trump planted the seed in your brain months before the e******n that it wouldn’t go his way! Maybe God was punishing him for all the lying, hatred he was spewing and his adulterous and sick ways! Trump lost get over it![/quote]

Getting over a steal is not going to help so get over telling me to get over it. Trump is a saint compared to Bribem, Bathhosed back door boy ovommit and Hitlery rotten Clinton. While Trump might have said it was easy to bag women if you are rich (which is true), slo joe was sexually assaulting Tara Reade with his fingers by probing her vagina, feeling up young girls a$$es and boobs, showering with his teen daughter and paying for H****rs prostitutes. Hitlery was flying to Pedo Island with Bill to play with the underage girls, eating more pu$$y than Bill (according to Bill himself) and fabricating false stories about Russian collusion that she herself was guilty of. She also committed many felonies by destroying her subpoenaed emails and erasing her 50,000 highly classified emails in her illegal email server. Hitlery, Ovommit and Bribem with the deep state even stole the Presidency from Trump. Now quit with all of your bs. No one is buying it but the already delusional sheepie. T***p w*n, don't be dumb.

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Jun 28, 2022 19:11:53   #
Shandel
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
You stated this post as if you already know all the evidence and it's a foregone conclusion that Trump is not only evil but also tried to usurp the country and the constitution.

I also gather from your post that there is a deep seeded h**e and contempt for the former President.

I can understand and empathize with you on that contempt. But let me remind you, in seeking justice, wh**ever the motivation, the judge must be neutral and must go where the evidence takes him. And let's all be reminded that evidence not put through the legal fire through cross-examination is no evidence at all.

I am a unique person, I question everything. I question conservatives in some of their blind faith activities as well as liberals in their decisions. I seek wise answers to these questions that protect both the accused and the accuser. In this way, the t***h and wisdom comes to light.

With that being said, I'm examining your post that I am responding to, and see quick, foolish, judgements that are appalling. Here's why?

Accusations were made on, and before J** 6th and afterwards that were ballooned and exaggerated to portray that Trump was guilty. He maybe, we don't know that. But in a fair fight, he gets to defend himself with the same force he is accused.

Before the 2016 e******n, I saw the effects of the Democrats foolish policies and programs. And how those actions were paved with good intentions hurt my friends and neighbors as well as myself. This, we began to pray. As I said before, and even on the Opp. Millions of faithful began praying.

One thing that sparked and motivated me to pray was Obama's handling of Bengazahi. At that time, I called for the impeachment of Obama, Biden, and Clinton. For their actions in my view point at the time we're treasonous.

Many on here at the Opp said, "Ranger, quit speaking of impeachment. That will divide us further" was one comment that was very fearful but also wise. But what recourse for the address of grievances was there?

I wrote my senator, John McCain who agreed with me and said Obama, "did not walk over our rights but galloped over them." But as a single senator, alone in the battle, he felt he could do nothing. As a result, I felt the need to appeal to a higher power and authority. But how?

Then I read an article on a Navy Seal family that prayed one Psalm a day until their son came home. The family and the son, prayed for 151 days until he came home safe and sound. That was it. Publicly and on the Opp, start a topic that would pray for America. Then Praying for America Through A Psalm of David began. It ran from the summer of 2014 until the beginning of the following year. It ended the day Donald Trump announced his bid for president. Many who followed, the topic saw how God anointed Trump to be president.

So Trump had a brutal fight first in the primaries, then in the general e******n. But he won. He could not have won, had it not been for God.

But the forces of evil challenged him and in many ways tried to hurt him but he prevailed. Now it is coming out that during his four years as president, the Hillary Clinton campaign used the power of the federal government against Trump and lost. They lied, c***ted and defrauded the government. They went as far as using false evidence to impeach him. But he prevailed. No man could prevail in that situation unless God was on his side. If you think so, go back in history, even ancient history, and show me an unpopular leader prevailing against similar odds. You would find only one if you were honest about it. And that one suffered even more greatly than trump and that would be Jesus Christ himself.

Yet with all the odds against him, Trump became successful in his endeavor. By helping most of America, from the poor to the rich, from the faithful to the unfaithful, all walks of life benefited from Trump's work.

Then it came time for America to either reelect him or fire him. To this day, it is not clear weather America fired him or gave him a rest. Or should I say forced him to take a v******tion. And the reason for this, is how bad the opposition got during the 2020 e******n cycle.

Cities were burning, people were being k**led. Even today the murder rate in Chicago is up more so then in 2019. Why? Who's spreading the fear? Who was attempting to destroy America? Trump was clearly trying to help, but being played like a fiddle. For every God sent messages, they always get played.

However, it is reasonable to understand Trumps anger. That is perfectly reasonable. And when a man is so furious about the evil that is attacking him from all sides, you do one of two things....fight or flight. Don chose to fight.

Now what is being displayed on the TV is a Hollywood production of this anger. This is bearing false witness against thy neighbor. They set him up and now they want to take him out.

In their setup, which appears to be quite easy, due to the fact that Trump is a rough character and right or wrong will defend himself, they can now ease thier conscience with a false sense of "doing the right thing" but it is and was the wrong thing to do.

Now in this post, I briefly showed you what had happened. When I started my topic, I knew, Trump would only be a one term president, because back then I knew that the Democrats would pull a stunt like this.

Step back from your feelings and see this situation unfold from a distance and you will see, if you are fair, that I'm right. The only question left is how do we all fix it?

So rubbing us with scripture and condemning each of us from a perceived notion, is very foolish. Stop, take a breath, step back, and review it honestly and justly. You will see if you have faith, you will see that I'm correct in many ways, maybe not all, but I think I'm on the right track.
You stated this post as if you already know all th... (show quote)


Ok I will wait for all the evidence but I know what I saw and heard but when you mention it could only happen with God on his side it always reminds me of a 60’s song with God on Our side one verse especially: “Oh the history books tell it they tell it so well the Calvary charged the Indians fell, the Calvary charged the Indians died oh the country was young with God on its side” So you say Trump would only serve 1 term because of the Dems stunt? What stunt? Trump is his own worst enemy. He made a huge mistake by surrounding himself with family and yes people. His only love is money he demands loyalty but gives none back. If you dont agree with him he will fire or send you away and always is revengeful. He always has a fall guy. He is a corrupter. I’m sorry but I can’t believe he is an agent of God and I’m not sure he even knows who God is or cares. Much of the feeling I have is fact supported. Thanks for your thoughts!

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Jun 28, 2022 19:37:46   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
Shandel wrote:
Ok I will wait for all the evidence but I know what I saw and heard but when you mention it could only happen with God on his side it always reminds me of a 60’s song with God on Our side one verse especially: “Oh the history books tell it they tell it so well the Calvary charged the Indians fell, the Calvary charged the Indians died oh the country was young with God on its side” So you say Trump would only serve 1 term because of the Dems stunt? What stunt? Trump is his own worst enemy. He made a huge mistake by surrounding himself with family and yes people. His only love is money he demands loyalty but gives none back. If you dont agree with him he will fire or send you away and always is revengeful. He always has a fall guy. He is a corrupter. I’m sorry but I can’t believe he is an agent of God and I’m not sure he even knows who God is or cares. Much of the feeling I have is fact supported. Thanks for your thoughts!
Ok I will wait for all the evidence but I know wh... (show quote)


Let me try a different approach: do you think God sent Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar II to exile the tribe of Judah?

Do you think God sent Alexander the Great to free the Jews?

Do you think God sent Caesar to take Jerusalem?

God uses all people, and nature for that matter, to do his bidding. Do we agree?

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Jun 28, 2022 19:59:09   #
debeda
 
[quote=Shandel][quote=debeda]You can't seriously be trying to blame the steady rise in violent crime since 2011 on President Trump [/quote

Nope he is not to blame the rise but his actions of thinking he and his cronies are above the law is a terrible example and says it’s ok to ignore the law![/quote]

Seems the Democrats just disregard any laws they don't like. Like borders. Like bail. Like legalizing shoplifting. And r**ting. And arson. And if anyone DOES get arrested politicians like Kamala Harris raise money to bail them out. Like due process for all (none for J6 detainees). The list goes on and on and on and on.

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Jun 28, 2022 19:59:48   #
debeda
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
Getting over a steal is not going to help so get over telling me to get over it. Trump is a saint compared to Bribem, Bathhosed back door boy ovommit and Hitlery rotten Clinton. While Trump might have said it was easy to bag women if you are rich (which is true), slo joe was sexually assaulting Tara Reade with his fingers by probing her vagina, feeling up young girls a$$es and boobs, showering with his teen daughter and paying for H****rs prostitutes. Hitlery was flying to Pedo Island with Bill to play with the underage girls, eating more pu$$y than Bill (according to Bill himself) and fabricating false stories about Russian collusion that she herself was guilty of. She also committed many felonies by destroying her subpoenaed emails and erasing her 50,000 highly classified emails in her illegal email server. Hitlery, Ovommit and Bribem with the deep state even stole the Presidency from Trump. Now quit with all of your bs. No one is buying it but the already delusional sheepie. T***p w*n, don't be dumb.
Getting over a steal is not going to help so get o... (show quote)


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Jun 28, 2022 20:05:44   #
Shandel
 
[quote=Ranger7374]Let me try a different approach: do you think God sent Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar II to exile the tribe of Judah?

Do you think God sent Alexander the Great to free the Jews?

Do you think God sent Caesar to take Jerusalem?
God uses all people, and nature for that matter, to do his bidding. Do we agree?[/quote

I’m not into the old I’m into the now so explain how you know Trump is God’s chosen one to do his bidding and what is that bidding and did God also choose Biden to remove Trump?

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Jun 28, 2022 20:14:34   #
Shandel
 
debeda wrote:
Seems the Democrats just disregard any laws they don't like. Like borders. Like bail. Like legalizing shoplifting. And r**ting. And arson. And if anyone DOES get arrested politicians like Kamala Harris raise money to bail them out. Like due process for all (none for J6 detainees). The list goes on and on and on and on.


You are full of nonsense. Anyone who was caught during the r**ts were prosecuted. What’s the difference Trump is using his grift to Funnel to his lawyer group to bailout Capitol R****rs. Due process has been happening in most all the cases quit spreading your nonsense please!

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Jun 28, 2022 20:41:33   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
[quote=Shandel][quote=Ranger7374]Let me try a different approach: do you think God sent Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar II to exile the tribe of Judah?

Do you think God sent Alexander the Great to free the Jews?

Do you think God sent Caesar to take Jerusalem?
God uses all people, and nature for that matter, to do his bidding. Do we agree?[/quote

I’m not into the old I’m into the now so explain how you know Trump is God’s chosen one to do his bidding and what is that bidding and did God also choose Biden to remove Trump?[/quote]

If you ever read St Augustine's [i] City of God [\i] or his [i] Confessions [\i] you would understand that God allows good to come from evil to come from good and so on. The purpose of this ying/yang is to advance the human condition.

Going back to 2016, none of the candidates had enough fortitude to overcome the forces of the left and Hillary Clinton except one person...Donald Trump.

Each challenger was too weak in one way or another. One thing about Trump that can be said is he didn't sic the department of justice and go after Clinton. But she went after him, which is an interesting turn of events.

After the e******n of 2016, he even thanked her for a challenging e******n. But perhaps none on the left remember that because it was all drowned away by Russian Collusion, the Mueller report and impeachment thereafter.

So let me look at the here and now, the Dems lose and they, for four years resist the president that is elected. Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

Here we are now nearly six years later, is it right for Maga and the Republicans to resist in the same manner Joe Biden and the Democrats?

We are Americans and we should turn the other cheek, even if your horse lost the e******n, we all should find ways of working together afterwards.

I accepted that Trump lost in 2020 mostly, but I still question the contest not the results. If I change the rules halfway in then I can control the outcome and that's where I believe the theft and c***ting went on. It is here that the microscope of the government should focus, not on Trump. But since the states certified the b****ts and the e*****rial college was certified, the e******n is over and we have to right or wrong, have to live with the results. We all can agree on that. But there is a loophole in this, that if such evidence is found that challenges the results and it is strong enough to show malice in the outcome, then this issue must be revisited and reexamined.

That's what I hoped the J** 6 c*******e would do. That's not what they are doing, thus thier actions are unjust. If it turns out that Joe won fair and square then so be it. If it turns out Don won fair and square then so be it. But we must prove that the win was not done with malice or a result of malice.

Doubt arises when that's the case. We all know that Trump believed there was malice and so do I and many of Don's supporters believe the same. So why can't we all investigate it, instead of blaming one man fueled by anger and not justice?

It all boils down to the e******n itself, not Donald Trump. That's where the issue is. But if we must go down the path of character assassination then.....

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Jun 28, 2022 20:55:57   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
Shandel wrote:
You are full of nonsense. Anyone who was caught during the r**ts were prosecuted. What’s the difference Trump is using his grift to Funnel to his lawyer group to bailout Capitol R****rs. Due process has been happening in most all the cases quit spreading your nonsense please!


I'll refer you to this website to data check your conclusion that
Shandel wrote:
You are full of nonsense. Anyone who was caught during the r**ts were prosecuted.
:

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/04/j***6-i**********n-sentencing-tracker-526091

So your assertion is not fully accurate.

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Jun 28, 2022 20:59:11   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
[quote=Shandel][quote=Ranger7374]Let me try a different approach: do you think God sent Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar II to exile the tribe of Judah?

Do you think God sent Alexander the Great to free the Jews?

Do you think God sent Caesar to take Jerusalem?
God uses all people, and nature for that matter, to do his bidding. Do we agree?[/quote

I’m not into the old I’m into the now so explain how you know Trump is God’s chosen one to do his bidding and what is that bidding and did God also choose Biden to remove Trump?[/quote]

God sent Trump to teach the conservatives how to fight. God removed Trump for two purposes, 1. To see if the lesson was learned and 2. To give Trump a rest before the final battle.

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Jun 28, 2022 21:24:11   #
debeda
 
Shandel wrote:
You are full of nonsense. Anyone who was caught during the r**ts were prosecuted. What’s the difference Trump is using his grift to Funnel to his lawyer group to bailout Capitol R****rs. Due process has been happening in most all the cases quit spreading your nonsense please!


You are so entirely deluded that talking to you scares me - that there are more like you.......

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